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México officials fear Schwarzenegger
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| Oct. 15, 2003
| LISA J. ADAMS
Posted on 10/15/2003 6:46:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
more anti-US behavior by CarterI am reading a book "Nicaragua Betrayed". It was dictated by former president Somoza. I've had a little experience in that part of the world, and everything I knew anything about, Somoza was right on the money, and Carter got it all wrong.
This lends some credence to the books claim that under the Carter administration, their was a concerted effort to overthrow the government of Nicaragua, and install the Sandanistas.
I used to think that Carter was merely misquided and naive. Now I wonder if he is actively evil.
To: FairOpinion
Some (Indeed Many) Conservatives are worried about Arnold surrounding himself with Pete Wilson Advisors, HOWEVER I would rather have Arnold raise taxes and start cutting off Governmental goodies to the Illegals.
After all, Even though Pete raised taxes - he DID know how to kick illegal Mexican butt and was PROUD to do it!
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posted on
10/15/2003 7:16:20 PM PDT
by
Pubbie
(Vote "No" On Recall, "Yes" On Bustamante)
To: FairOpinion
I would say Carter was the worst President we ever had except for the fact that Clinton Gore gave missile guidance technology to China so they could get their nuclear missiles to the continental United States targets.
I think that was treason right there IMO!
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posted on
10/15/2003 7:20:42 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: FairOpinion
Bustamante's loss was a huge setback in their plans to mexicanize California.
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posted on
10/15/2003 7:22:36 PM PDT
by
CheneyChick
(Let the Hauskleaning Begin)
To: FairOpinion
Message to the Mexicans: You've had every opportunity to turn your country into another United States; God knows you have the manpower and resources. Don't think that your p!ss-poor choices in leadership and lack of ingenuity is a license to spill over into my back yard because some of my neighbors naively look at you as stray housepets that need shelter and a fresh bowl of water. That shelter and water come from MY family's home and hearth. You neither earned it, nor did you even attempt to put your shoulder next to mine, and qualify for it. You merely bypassed my sovereign laws, trudged across a mud flat, and expected my elected leaders to rape me of the fruits of my labors in order for you to abandon the hell you have collectively made for yourselves. Then you little cactusbacks expect me to learn to speak Spanish or deal with that 'No habla Engles' horse squeeze you like laying on any gringo you think that you can blow off.
So, ban me. I've been banned for less.
To: FairOpinion
Well, if the Mexican government is that worried about the state of affairs in California, perhaps they should issue a travel advisory warning their citizens not to go there. In fact, they could even look out for their safety and detain any people trying to get there.
Should that happan, I propose Governor Perry invite Arnie to Texas and make him Governor for a Day.
To: Proud to Be a McCarthyist
HE WAS NOT A NICE MAN.
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posted on
10/15/2003 7:31:33 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: FairOpinion
I've already heard Shwartzy say that he admires Vincente Fox. He said that in virtually his first speech as Gropenator.
[Schwarzenegger makes Clinton look like a choir boy.]
To: FairOpinion
We'd be better served if he, Jimmy Carter, stayed out of politics.
Dan
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posted on
10/15/2003 7:40:01 PM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: FairOpinion
The left-leaning Democratic Revolutionary Party was proposing a non-binding resolution warning about the risk of the Terminator's election and announcing that it will be monitoring the new governor's politics when it comes to migration issues, Rep. Francisco Mora told the government news agency Notimex. Seems the Mexicans have more faith in Arnold than most Tombots. ;-)
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posted on
10/15/2003 7:45:26 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)
To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"Mexican federal lawmakers on Wednesday bemoaned Hollywood action star Arnold Schwarzenegger's election as California governor and issued a stern call to the novice politician to respect the rights of Mexican migrants in North America's largest state."
And what if Schwarzenneger were to defy their "stern call?" Would Mexico follow up with stern action? Only if it wants to experience its greatest military defeat in more than 150 years.
It's one thing to suppress internal insurgency in Chiapas. It's another to step up several weight classes and take on the heavyweight champion of the world. Big mistake Meheeko.
Mexican politicians needn't worry, though. I'm sure Gov. Arnie is all for granting Mexican immigrants (by which both I, and undoubtedly the Mexican politicos, mean illegals).
"Senor Miranda, you're under arrest for illegal entry into U.S. territory. You have the RIGHT to remain silent. You have the RIGHTS to representation by counsel. You have the RIGHT to have an attorney present during questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you. Do you understand all of this, Senor Miranda?"
"Si"
To: South40; FairOpinion
You know, they aren't REALLY afraid of Schwarzenegger - they are Afraid of The WILSON ADVISORS (Including Good ol' Pete himself).
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posted on
10/15/2003 7:58:16 PM PDT
by
Pubbie
(Vote "No" On Recall, "Yes" On Bustamante)
To: Proud to Be a McCarthyist
Oh, yes. Carter is a nice man generally, but he did NOT belong in the Oval Office. In way over his head, he was. Let's not forget his playing footsie with the Soviet Union either. The SALT treaties were merely SALT in the wounds our military suffered under that ignoramus. Amen!
I was stationed overseas in Europe just in time the "The Carter" election. On the day that it was announced that Jimmy had won, there was a Combined US, German, British, Canadian social function at the O'Club. I was detained at Battalion with some issues to take care of so I arrived at the Club a little past the start time. As I approached the bar, I ran into one of the British officers, but from the looks of him, he'd already slammed back several neat drinks. As I ordered my drink and waited he started to talk in amazement of the recent election and how creative we were. Having no idea where he was going with this I asked what he was talking about. He responded with "You YANKS have managed to make the book Frankensteien a reality by bringing Neville Chamberlain back from the dead to be your President!" Turned out that he was right.
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posted on
10/15/2003 8:24:32 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: autoresponder; FairOpinion
I have lived and worked in Mexico, and I frankly love it there.
But it is what it is.
The immigration question is forever being muddied with arguments that are not germaine to the question. Supposedly they do jobs that legal workers won't do. That is false, these jobs got done before the floodgates were opened, flooding the labor market with workers who will not insist on their legal rights, and whose presence depresses the wage rates.
Americans won't take these jobs at the wage offered, and the working conditions as they often are. But traditionally Americans have always done their own work. Close the borders and the wages will probably double overnight, and you will have takers for those jobs. In the fifties my older relatives worked those same fields, traveling state to state with the kids.
They say that cheap labor is the engine that is driving the American economy. But that really isn't true either, or Mexico itself would be an economic powerhouse.
Cheap labor is not the source of our prosperity. Expensive labor has built domestic markets for American goods, and has also driven the mechanization and modernization of American industry. Expensive labor is an important part of American prosperity.
Expensive labor is also part of what made Americans as egalitarian in their outlook as they are. And the fact that Americans have always done their own hard labor made them the handy, practical, common sense people that they were. Only a few short years ago blue collar workers could earn wages that rivaled and occasionally surpassed those of white collar workers. But blue collar wages have been flat for a couple of decades in part because there is an endless supply of people prepared to work for less.
Illegal workers are not just taking farming jobs. They are working in every industry.
We are receiving a million immigrants per year. There is no reason that number should be as high as it is. There has never been a national debate on the subject, we have never spoken out as a people to demand that a million be admitted as opposed to some other number. When did our public servants ever ask for our input?
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posted on
10/15/2003 8:42:29 PM PDT
by
marron
To: marron
Excellent analysis!
I think they should close the floodgates and see how we adjust, I bet fine.
Then, if there are available jobs, then we can do the legal process of bringing documented guest workers.
To: FairOpinion
The very discriminatory message that he has delivered at certain times against Mexican migrants is not something that encourages us. It's totally the opposite." Not encourages you how? To not break the law and enter our country illegally? Would shooting illegal boarder-crossers encourage you more or less?
To: FairOpinion
These demanding Mexican politicians make me sick. Americans have no "rights" in Mexico, why should illegal aliens have "rights" in America. My God, we're already forced to pay their bills and provide them with medical care and everything else, and they want "rights"??
I hope this will be a major issue in the 2004 election, and I hope every Mexico-pandering American politician gets thrown out of Washington on his or her ear.
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posted on
10/15/2003 8:54:39 PM PDT
by
janetgreen
(WAKE UP, PRESIDENT BUSH - WE'RE BEING INVADED BY MEXICO!)
To: autoresponder
I agree...and we are about a 48-hr. campaign from making Mexico the 51st state,they should just STFU and behave!
And FWIW Mexico, home of some of the worst movies ever made, had no business whatsoever criticizing Arnold as an actor!;)
To: marron
Excellent analogy.
European history and the crusades were an prime example of the ruling class shuttling off their surplus labor to fight a foreign war, and, before that, each other.
The crusades ended in part by stalemate (the Turks of that era were probably saner than the Islamist of our era) but in greater part by the Bubonic Plague which severely reduced the size of the labor forced drove up wages overnight. With the improved wages, leisure and literacy both rose, ushering in the rennissance.
To: Viking2002
Then you little cactusbacks expect me to learn to speak Spanish or deal with that 'No habla Engles' horse squeeze you like laying on any gringo you think that you can blow off. There was an unintentionally amusing letter to the ed in the local paper. The writer was responding to another letter about the derogatory use of the word "gringo." The writer responding said there were no "bad words" for Caucasians and that "gringo" only meant blue-eyed blondes (really?). Then he said whites were occasionally called "bollios" (sp?) and that meant "flour muffins." :D
The "no hablo inglés" appears to be really useful for avoiding contact with the authorities who don't want to be bothered with the language barrier. Maybe this "flour muffin" should take up Gaelic.
sláinte, Bollio muchacha
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posted on
10/15/2003 9:16:05 PM PDT
by
LNewman
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