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Lawyer: Terri still in danger
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 22, 2003, 5:15 p.m. Eastern | By Sarah Foster

Posted on 10/22/2003 2:50:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Family barred from visiting brain-disabled woman, judge drags feet on appointment of new guardian

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Posted: October 22, 2003

5:15 p.m. Eastern

ven though Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and state legislature yesterday halted the court-ordered starvation death of brain-disabled Terri Schindler-Schiavo, her family and legal counsel are afraid her life will be increasingly at risk as long as the courts allow her husband to remain her guardian and do not appoint a guardian ad litem as demanded by the special legislation that was passed.

"My greatest fear is that Michael [Schiavo] will order Terri out of the hospital before she is medically stabilized and rehydrated – as he did three times last August when she had pneumonia," said Patricia Anderson, attorney for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler.

"That is why we need a guardian ad litem," she added. "That is what Terri's Bill is about. We've got to have a guardian ad litem to put a stop to that kind of hijinks, because his primary objective is to kill her."

Schiavo very nearly succeeded in his five-year quest to end his wife's life by court-approved starvation. With only a few hours remaining before she slipped beyond the point where she could be saved, Florida lawmakers yesterday delivered to the governor legislation empowering him to order Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted, and Bush signed the life-saving law as well as an implementing executive order.

"Terri's Bill" specifically directs the chief judge (David Demers) of the 6th Judicial Circuit Court to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent Terri "upon issuance of a stay," but he has not yet done so – which Anderson views as a matter of urgency.

"Terri will be out of danger only when Michael is no longer her guardian and no longer has access to her," she said bluntly.

Crowds of demonstrators cheered wildly, as Terri was transferred by ambulance from Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla., to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, about 25 miles away, where upon her feeding tube was reinserted and rehydration begun after her six days ordeal of judge-ordered starvation.

Family locked out

No sooner was his wife admitted to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, Fla., than Schiavo sent an order barring Terri's parents and siblings from visiting her.

The Schindlers were not informed of Schiavo's action, and only learned of it late that evening from Terri's brother, who had driven to the hospital to visit his sister and was escorted from the premises by an armed security guard. Bobby Schindler, 38, told WorldNetDaily he was told by the administrator on duty that Schiavo had left instructions that "no family members, no anybody is to visit Terri," and that they were to be given no information about her medical condition.

Schindler was too exhausted by worry over the fate of his sister and the events of the past seven days to express anger. But he said he's not surprised by this recent action by Schiavo.

"Michael's been doing this kind of thing for almost as long as he's been guardian of my sister," he exclaimed. "It's been going on for over a decade and it continues. Even after the governor stepped in and did what he did today, [Schiavo] continues to use his power as a weapon against our family and Terri."

It's one of many times her husband has ordered Terri isolated from family and those close to her. In mid-August, he barred a Roman Catholic priest from visiting her at Morton Plant Hospital where she was taken due to a sudden medical crisis.

Schiavo said his action that time was prompted by a late-evening visit by Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski, a former Army chaplain, who had been asked by Terri's father to drop by the hospital to see how she was faring.

Even though the monsignor was on a court-approved list of visitors and regularly visited her at the hospice where she has been a patient for three years, Schiavo had a long-standing policy that no one could visit Terri unaccompanied either by himself or family member and that Malanowski had knowingly violated his order.

Schiavo's attorney Deborah Bushnell told WorldNetDaily that her client was concerned about Malanowski's "integrity" and felt the 81-year-old priest was not "the kind of person that he wanted visiting Terri or that he felt comfortable visiting Terri." Eventually he relented slightly and the monsignor was allowed to resume his visits subject to week-to-week approval by Schiavo.

Last Wednesday, the day Terri's feeding tube was removed, Schiavo's attorneys ordered family members barred from being alone with Terri at the hospice following Robert Schindler's release to the media of a videotape distributed in evidence that the woman is not in a "persistent vegetative state," as Schiavo's advocates claim.

Schindler admitted the tape was made surreptitiously in violation of a court order by probate Judge George Greer of the Pinellas-County Circuit Court. The video, which shows Terri alert and laughing and trying to speak, further indicates attempts at rehabilitative therapy, also banned by the courts.

Following the video's release, her family was told they were barred from visiting the dying woman "unless [Schiavo] or his representative is present."

In at least one instance, the "representative" that accompanied Robert and Mary Schindler to the bedside of their daughter was none other than the mother of Schiavo's mistress, Jodi Centonze, with whom he has been living for a number of years. He and Centonze have a 1-year-old daughter and are expecting a second child.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Schindlers had been fighting their son-in-law for 10 years over the lack of care and therapy Schiavo as her guardian provided for their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under mysterious circumstances at the age of 26.

The ongoing dispute escalated five years ago when Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to end his wife's life by removing her feeding tube, insisting she is in a "persistent vegetative state" and had told him years before she would not want to be maintained "by tubes" and "artificial means." Although Terri breathes on her on and maintains her own blood pressure, she requires a simple tube into her abdomen to her stomach for nourishment and hydration.

The Schindlers fought tenaciously to keep their daughter and the case alive in the courts, but they have been basically blocked at every turn, in particular by Greer, who has had charge of the case almost from the beginning. When the seven-member Florida Supreme Court in August turned down a petition to review the case, the way was clear for Schiavo to starve his wife to death.

On Sept. 17, Greer scheduled Oct. 15 as the day Terri's feeding tube would be removed. At the same time, in separate rulings, he denied any rehabilitation for the disabled woman or a chance to be spoon-fed.

Information on Terri's fight for life is posted on the family's website.


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To: trussell
Unless things have changed in Florida since I went to law school there, the GALs do not have to be attorneys. The GAL program was actively recruiting law students to serve as GALs while still in law school, and a couple of my classmates did it.
21 posted on 10/22/2003 3:44:04 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: trussell; PleaseNoMore
Thanks, both of you.
22 posted on 10/22/2003 3:44:19 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................God Bless and Keep Terri.....................)
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To: The Shootist
Judge Andrew Napolitano (Fox News) says that the Florida legislature, and Governor Bush have no Right to do what they did.

Not only do they have a right, they have a duty to preserve and defend the life of their citizens from reckless Judges, bad laws and scumbag husbands.

The Florida Supreme Court will render the Legislature's action Un-Constitutional.

The Florida Constitution demands the state protect the rights of the disabled. I might add that the rights of Terri Schiavo have been trampled by her husband and the courts. I don't think the Florida legislature can back down now or they will look like they simply did some political grandstanding. The kangaroos on the FSC do not make laws no matter what Judge NApolitano says or thinks.

23 posted on 10/22/2003 3:44:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: PleaseNoMore
Do we know that Demers is neutral? I just found some stuff on him that didn't sound too good. imo this whole think stinks.

But I guess I shouldn't lose hope. We gotta keep praying.

24 posted on 10/22/2003 3:45:07 PM PDT by incindiary
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To: aristeides
I think Judge Andrew is just mad, because a JUDGE was overruled by legislation. He's a judge, so he's looking out for his own interest.
25 posted on 10/22/2003 3:46:43 PM PDT by Lanza
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To: incindiary
First, never lose hope.

Second, Demers has to be neutral as any guardian is accountable to the governor.

26 posted on 10/22/2003 3:52:38 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: pollywog
I don't think the FEEDING TUBE is even in yet, is it?? Just IVs is the last I heard about.

They're hydrating her first via IV before they insert the feeding tube, from what the news reports have said. Now if you have better medical judgment and training, feel free to contact the hospital.

27 posted on 10/22/2003 3:54:37 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: GovernmentShrinker
In Colorado, a GAL is an Attorney. I researched the GAL rules for Florida and came up with this (not quite as restrictive as Colorado):


Who can be a
Guardian Ad Litem ?

Any person who has common sense and good judgment can be a Guardian Ad Litem! A GAL does not have to be a lawyer, counselor, therapist or parent, since he/she does not perform these roles for the child. A volunteer Guardian Ad Litem should be a person who has perhaps dealt with crisis in his/her own life, and is capable of helping a child in crisis. He/she should be a person who CARES... and is able to give TIME to help a child. A Guardian Ad Litem volunteer may have to "think outside the lines." Volunteers will be matched with children depending on how much time they are able to give, the seriousness of the case, and the backgrounds of the volunteer and the child.

http://www.guardianadlitem.org/about.htm
28 posted on 10/22/2003 3:57:26 PM PDT by trussell (PRAYER WORKS!!)
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To: EggsAckley
Schiavo had left instructions that "no family members, no anybody is to visit Terri," and that they were to be given no information about her medical condition.

I was just thinking that given her joyous responses to the presence of her family, nothing could be more emotionally comforting to her right now than seeing them. She's alone, cut off from all loved and trusted ones in that hospital, and God only knows how scared/confused she is. If she still has enough energy to be conscious, it must be so lonely for her. It breaks the heart.

29 posted on 10/22/2003 4:01:24 PM PDT by xJones
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To: aristeides
Why did they not have the right to change the applicable law prospectively? If this law is unconstitutional for some reason, what constitutional provision did it violate?

The JUDGE is not exactly unbiased :)

30 posted on 10/22/2003 4:02:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: xJones
It breaks the heart.

Ya got that right. I've had little sleep and a bad stomach all week.

31 posted on 10/22/2003 4:05:17 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................God Bless and Keep Terri.....................)
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To: PleaseNoMore
Well not a minion, but maybe a close friend?
32 posted on 10/22/2003 4:12:38 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: EggsAckley
Been real concerned about Terri's parents as well. Those poor folks had to fight the devil's minions.

Thank God for all the support and prayers they have received from Freepers and others.

IT HAS BEEN A REAL FIGHT AGAINST evil for them.

33 posted on 10/22/2003 4:14:51 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: All
The statist media is begining to print 'letters to the editor' to support their pro-death position. I hope it's not because pro-Terri people are not writing. We need to write even if they chose not to print ours.

The pro-Terri media campaign must continue. Please contact your local news and talk shows, even provide them with prewritten news scripts that they can use. This seems to work better than contacting the national media.

Let the truth be proclaimed.

34 posted on 10/22/2003 4:15:39 PM PDT by Tucson_AZ
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To: nickcarraway
I understand that the judge gave the attorneys for the parents and the "husband" five days to agree upon a guardian.

Now that should be interesting.
35 posted on 10/22/2003 4:16:53 PM PDT by fqued (The mainstream media wouldn't over-rate anyone, would they?)
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To: Catspaw
Judge Napolitano is getting on my last nerve.

He may know the law, but he always comes across as a bombastic arrogant s.o.b.

I wish FOX would can him.

Or at least make him change that helmet hairdo.
36 posted on 10/22/2003 4:19:59 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: jwalsh07
Not only do they have a right, they have a duty to preserve and defend the life of their citizens from...bad laws...

Um, hate to point this out, but the findings were made according to an unambiguous law written by those same legislators. And I'll add that the findings were made after evidentiary hearings where the judge could consider all the facts - as opposed to a truncated legislative process where legislators didn't review the record or call any witnesses. As far as I could tell, those legislators didn't have anything but emails and phone messages from similarly manipulated internet activists.

It was political grandstanding.

37 posted on 10/22/2003 4:23:36 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Catspaw; ambrose; Long Cut; TheAngryClam
Now we hate Judge Napolitano, it seems.
38 posted on 10/22/2003 4:25:10 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: nickcarraway
So POS is still guardian, still forbidding family from seeing Terri.

I sthat why there are no reliable statements about her condition. I haven't heard any.

Are any reps of the state there to make sure nothing untoward is going on?

Why couldn't Bush designate a family member as one of the state reps? At least that would allow them acces to see Terri?

How can Demers just ignore what has been mandated by this law?

The law can't be declared unconstitutional until after a long legal process of appeals through the courts. Schiavo and Felos continue their in your face acts of depravity.

They will surely succeed in killing her if there is not some serious intervention.

If thislaw says Schiavo is not now the guardian...he isn't. where are the reps of the state? Are they too being denied access?

39 posted on 10/22/2003 4:26:29 PM PDT by isrul
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To: All
Can we believe this? Confirmation anyone?

Notice: "They [the parents] will not be entitled to updates on her medical condition."

Michael Schiavo grants Schindlers visitation rights
Wednesday, October 22nd
Terri was transported by ambulance to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater on Tuesday.
The husband of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman at the center of a Florida right-to-die controversy, dropped his objections Wednesday to letting her parents visit her, attorneys said.

It was not immediately clear when Bob and Mary Schindler and Terri's siblings would be allowed to visit. They will not be entitled to updates on her medical condition.

Terri was moved late Tuesday to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater after Gov. Jeb Bush ordered her feeding tube reinserted.

The parents and Terri's husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo, have been at the center of a lengthy and contentious battle over whether Terri should be kept alive indefinitely in a persistent vegetative state with the feeding tube, as the parents want, or allowed to die, as the husband wants. A court ruled that the tube could be removed last week, but the state Legislature quickly passed a law giving the governor the right to intervene.

In another development, David Demeres, the chief judge of Pinellas County Circuit Court, ordered lawyers for both sides to reach an agreement within five days to designate an independent guardian for Terri, as required under the law signed by the governor.

The new guardian would become Terri Schiavo's advocate in legal proceedings, but Michael Schiavo would remain the decision-maker.
Michael Schiavo's attorney George Felos

If an agreement cannot be reached, Demeres said, he will appoint Dr. Jay Wolfson, a professor of health and law at Stetson University, as the guardian. Wolfson also works for the College of Public Health at Florida State University and the College of Medicine at the University of South Florida.

The law passed by the state Legislature Tuesday and quickly signed by Bush authorized the governor to issue an executive order reinserting the feeding tube and said a "guardian ad litem" should be appointed to the case.

A guardian ad litem is a person appointed by the court to represent the best interests of one or more children in a court action that may affect them. "Ad litem" is Latin for "for this litigation."
http://www.baynews9.com/site/NewsStory.cfm?storyid=26575
40 posted on 10/22/2003 4:27:06 PM PDT by Tucson_AZ
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