Lawyer: Terri still in danger

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 22, 2003, 5:15 p.m. Eastern | By Sarah Foster

[jwalsh07]

Post the law and we'll see how unambiguous it is Mr Palpatine. Futhermore the Judge has no more access to the evidence than I do and I find his decision woefully inadequate and approaching lunacy. I'm leaving work now so when I get home I expect I'll find the "unambguous" law posted to me right here.

When I get there I'll post for you the unambiguous stament in the COnstitution of Florida requiring the state to defend the rights of the disabled.

And we'll debate from there. I am sincerely looking forward to it.

[TheAngryClam]

Yay! New blood! I was getting tired of suggesting that Michael Schiavo tried to kill his bulimic wife, and then somehow bought off Judge Greer.

Now we have more people to hate! Judge Napolitano is a baby killer! And he likes to kick puppies!

[Chancellor Palpatine]

How can Demers just ignore what has been mandated by this law?

It isn't as if the law in Florida is meaningful anymore, so why should anyone follow it or care?

[maxwellp]

I don't know about "constituional provision", but I do know about "common sense". Terri responds to her Mom and certain other stimulus. She has been denied, by her so-called "husband" any sort of rehabilitation. Now the so-called "husband" denies her parents visiting her. Get the husband away from Terri and let's see where we can go with Terri. Terri certainly deserves a chance at mental and physical therapy. The husband has stopped this for many years and now he needs to be stopped in his tracks! This is "common sense" - not some crapoola legal crap.

[First_Salute]

Don't trouble yourself.

Some folks here, do not understand that the people are sovereign and their authority flows through the Legislative and Executive branches of our government(s).

The courts do not have the final word on anything that is not approved by the laws made so, through the democratic-republican process respecting that flow of authority.

The Congress of the United States has entirely the power to set the jurisdiction for the U.S. Supreme Court, not to mention that the Congress can remove any or all of the Justices.

The same power of the Legislative branch is that of each state's.

Now, certainly their are judges who are legends in their own minds. Most of that is because their legal proceedings are very much formal and traditional, to lend to the matters before them and all, the seriousness of the tasks they undertake. There is much pomp and circumstance.

As the lights shine upon Dan Rather and Peter Jennings, the limelight at court cannot help but puff up the vulnerable; that is, the ego-inclined are ready candidates for believing themselves to be the law makers.

When they most certainly are not; and, under penalty of starting up an American Revolution all over again. Liberty, our sovereignty, will not be given up by court order, to put it so mildly it is impossible to even qualify the importance of this field.

I don't happen to think that there's any need to visit there, other than in respect of what our forefathers and mothers endured, so that we may be blessed by limited government.

Which is all the rigorous review of what is really, quite beautifully simple: Our governments' agents are all public servants. We, not they, proscribe through our laws made in the House and Senate of our Legislative branches and signed by the Chief Executive(s), what laws we will live by, and how the judges shall practice at the bar, in addition to where judges are limited right down to the number of times that they use the gavel.

This present contest of wills, is one half because Michael Schiavo is probably a lier who has tried to kill his wife, and the other half is because judges have themselves confused with the fabrications they wring from extra-Constitutional space.

There is nothing worse, in its effects, than a government agent who abuses their authorized powers, and especially exceeds them. In the case of a judge doing so, such a judge's transgressions against the men and women who have sacrificed much, is terrible ... and every good cop knows it, though I was also referring to those who have served well in our military.

Please, again, do not fret some of the Freepers who are bent on drugs, and they'll say anything so sweetly tasting of anarchy, to spoil the foundations of our peace, because they are unhappily impatient for some cause upon which to toss away self-discipline.

[ambrose]

They were calling Jeb Bush a "murderer" the other day (before he signed the legislation rushed through by senate candidate Jonnie Byrd) - and that was some of the kinder things they were saying.

[The Red Zone]

Diabolically thought out as always from those two. If they don't know her condition they can't raise political or legal cain to address any specific problem. Hopefully the GAL will be allowed this information.

[Dave S]

Associated Press has now upgraded Terri's condition to "disabled

Oh she now knows who she is? What a remarkable cure hydration is.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

So you've reviewed all the tapes and transcripts of every hearing that Greer had, along with all the documents? AND the stuff that was reviewed by the other judges? Wow! Such diligence. That must be a full time job for you.

BTW, since you've reviewed all that material, you've got umpteen copies of that statute laying around, and should have it down by heart now.

Unless, of course, you're lying and didn't review it.

[EggsAckley]

Okay, now they have a GAL. Suppose we'll see some action NOW? Of course, the good doctor is an academe, College of Public Health at Florida State University and the College of Medicine at the University of South Florida, so he's probably a raving lefty and will grant Michael's every wish.

This is not going well.

[The Red Zone]

It doesn't matter if it took only two seconds for the FL legislature to pass this legislation. It's law. How wise or foolish it may be can be brought up for debate, but not its legality. Does not the legislature have the power to fix its own mistakes?

[ambrose]

This is how I feel coming on to these Terri threads:

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[EggsAckley]

Climb back in your hole, Clam. You're not adding anything to this thread.

[The Red Zone]

Who cares if a million years of testimony went before the courts. That was under the old law. The law changed, PERIOD!

[supercat]

Um, hate to point this out, but the findings were made according to an unambiguous law written by those same legislators. And I'll add that the findings were made after evidentiary hearings where the judge could consider all the facts - as opposed to a truncated legislative process where legislators didn't review the record or call any witnesses.

Actually, since Judge Greer allowed George Felos to fire Terri's guardian ad litem and illegally(*) refused to let another be appointed, there was nobody with standing to file any motions on Terri's behalf.

(*) A judge is required to appoint a guardian ad litem in cases where a guardian's interests may conflict with a ward's. There is no way a reasonable judge would find that there isn't at least a potential conflict of interest regarding Terri's care, nor any possibility that the Michael/Felos' handling of her affairs might possibly not be in her best interest. But Judge Greer's the only person who gets to make that determination in Terri's case.

[Catspaw]

Now we hate Judge Napolitano, it seems.

It's transient.

I remember when Judge Napolitano blasted the lawsuit that Jane Roe (McCovey) filed to get Roe v. Wade overturned. He was blasted. He was right, of course, and the case got broomed in weeks.

When he gives his legal opinion that freepers agree with, he'll be back in their good graces.

[The Shootist]

Why did they not have the right to change the applicable law prospectively?

I'm just passing on to you what the Judge said.

"In our system of government the courts are the final interpreters of the Law, not the Executive Branch or the Legislature".

[EggsAckley]

If that's how it makes you feel, then kindly stop coming to these threads. You'll feel a lot better.

[Catspaw]

How wise or foolish it may be can be brought up for debate, but not its legality.

It's law until the courts decide it's unconstitutional. Whether you like it or not, that's one of the functions of the judiciary, part of that checks & balances thing.

[ordinaryguy]

but Michael Schiavo would remain the decision-maker.

Wonderful. He'll decide nothing in her best interest.