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To: dandelion
She smiles laughs and moves. She moves her legs and tries to speak. That's NOT BRAIN DEAD.

You have obviously never seen a person in a vegetative state. They have no brain EKG function whatsoever, yet they appear wide awake and semi-functional. She is not there, folks, and all these gestures, all-though they come from a good place, does Terri no good.

157 posted on 10/22/2003 5:44:08 PM PDT by irish_lad
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To: irish_lad
Terri has EEG activity. (EKG is heart)
172 posted on 10/22/2003 5:45:32 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: irish_lad
I have seen lots of people in vegetative states.

Terri has too many reactions on cue to be vegetative.
174 posted on 10/22/2003 5:45:55 PM PDT by najida (He who is without baggage can cast the first Samsonite.)
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To: irish_lad
The DOCTORS WORK FOR THE HUSBANDS ATTORNEY - check out this link and READ IT - then tell me it's objective. It's murder...

http://www.becki-snow.blogspot.com
181 posted on 10/22/2003 5:47:35 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: irish_lad
You have obviously never seen a person in a vegetative state. They have no brain EKG function whatsoever, yet they appear wide awake and semi-functional. She is not there, folks, and all these gestures, all-though they come from a good place, does Terri no good.

YOU ARE WRONG! DEAD WRONG!!!!!!

201 posted on 10/22/2003 5:50:46 PM PDT by pollywog ((Please keep following Terri. Press Releases at terrisfight.org))
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To: irish_lad
She does have a brain waves. There are many doctors that have seen her and say she is not in a vegetative state. They have given affidavits to that effect.

Only Michael S. doctors say she is.
236 posted on 10/22/2003 5:56:50 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: irish_lad
>>>>You have obviously never seen a person in a vegetative state. They have no brain EKG function whatsoever,

My husband, a psychiatrist, who is standing right next to me says you are wrong.
243 posted on 10/22/2003 5:57:21 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: irish_lad
You have obviously never seen a person in a vegetative state AKA PVS. They have no brain EKG function whatsoever, yet they appear wide awake and semi-functional.

well, I have seen "vegetative state"...

Those with "brain death" have a flat EEG (EKG is heart rhythm, not brain). Those on sedative medication might also have a flat EEG

People with PVS have some brain function.

The problem is that at least 30 percent of people "diagnosed" with "PVS" are not PVS

People with PVS do not respond to visual stimulation and smile, although they do respond to deep pain. THey "wake" but their eyes don't focus. They rarely can eat. They just sit there.

Terri obviously knows her parents and smiles.

The problem is that many physicians despise brain damaged people.

I've had expeience withneurologists" who say people have PVS, or "near PVS" and advise us to kill these people--even when I, as a physician, know they are NOT PVS, because they don't meet the criteria or because they are lethargic from their seizure medications.

One of my patients had frontal lobe syndrome, with excessive emotions, and we had a neurologist see he to see if her crying was from seizures and if it could be treated. Instead of helping, he spent almost an hour trying to talk her relatives into taking out her feeding tube...insisting her life was useless. However, the patient and her family were native Americans, and told him off. Later, the niece told me: That's the difference between you white people and we Indians. We respect our elders...

Did you ever see the film where a bunch of mentally retarded people were caught in the crossfire in the Lebanon civil war? For three days they were neglected, since anyone moving nearby was shot at. Then MOther Teresa announced: Tomorrow, me and my sisters will go and rescue them. Even though warned, she persisted...and saved 60 of these people...

257 posted on 10/22/2003 6:01:04 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)
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To: irish_lad
You have obviously never seen a person in a vegetative state.

I think I just did....

... at post 157.

276 posted on 10/22/2003 6:05:18 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: irish_lad
In reference to the mention of EEG and brain dead.....to my knowledge they haven't done a EEG to determine if Terri is brain dead. If they did one, it would show that she still has brain function and would, therefore, refute their own position. Believe me, if they had that in their arsenal, we would have heard about it.

My apologies if this point has already been made.
287 posted on 10/22/2003 6:08:40 PM PDT by Therefore
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To: irish_lad
They have no brain EKG function whatsoever

Thank the Lord for small miracles. No sinus rythym in the medulla.

299 posted on 10/22/2003 6:10:12 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: irish_lad
You have no brain EKG!

You might have brain waves that could be shown on
an EEG.
333 posted on 10/22/2003 6:20:03 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
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To: irish_lad
Tell Felos to get off of my tv. Thank you.
819 posted on 10/22/2003 8:22:27 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Please keep following Terri. Press Releases at terrisfight.org)
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