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To: Aliska
What is really ugly about some of this is that I suspect many have done the same thing to their own relatives and can't stand the light of moral scrutiny and introspection concerning their own actions. They look at this and wouldn't want to be burdened by a loved one who is of no use to them any more, and they respond accordingly. Love quickly waxes cold when things get inconvenient.

You have truly hit the nail on the head here. To acknowledge that Michael is doing something wrong here, they have to also acknowledge that they are guilty of the same thing. That would take more character than most of them can muster.

Truthfully, I feel guilty for telling my own mother, when she was dying, that it was okay to let go. I wonder if my words that I thought were encouraging, were actually discouraging.

312 posted on 10/29/2003 7:29:26 PM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)
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To: TaxRelief
I wonder if my words that I thought were encouraging, were actually discouraging.

No, you did fine. Maybe she was in a confused state and waiting to hear something like that. We can't know. You have to look at your overall performance, and I'm sure you did your best. We can all look back and see things we wish we had done a little differently.

321 posted on 10/29/2003 7:45:37 PM PST by Aliska
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To: TaxRelief
No---your words were freeing. When it is time, and it will happen to you and me and everyone here, everyone everywhere, death is both welcoming and frightening.

It is as natural as birth, but God decides the time, not man.

We know when our beloved pets are suffering, there comes a time to choose between the duration of time the suffering has to go on, and when to step in and help the suffering cease.

My aunt died with the hospice's tender care. They were in her home, monitoring her body cycles-adminstering water and morphine to the back of her mouth, soothing her with wet, soft cloths, holding her hand, and talking to her when she seemed to need it...she was not fed, cancer had caused her such suffering for a long yr, but the last 8 months were full of begging her to eat. My uncle suffered terribly. Sometimes administering a literal drop of jello onto her tongue...taking hours to feed her just 1/4 cup.

After a couple of months in hospitals, when every test, every nuance of medical knowledge and care had been exhausted, she was sent home to die and that is when hospice entered in...providing a bed, instruments needed to help her, catheter checks, etc.

When her intestines became quiet-the hospice worker told us she would probably pass in a day or two. The hospice staff was there around the clock. And this is what hospice is supposed to do....help the DYING while they undergo the transition to heaven. Terri...IS NOT DYING, WAS NOT DYING, but WAS BEING MURDERED via a court order.

My aunt NEEDED the morphine, no doubt. THERE was suffering. But there was no way to force her to eat, and a feeding tube would have extended suffering. Her body was shutting down. People who are terminally ill become so sick that eating is painful...perhaps this part of it IS god's plan. Hospice is supposed to ONLY enter into a patients life when that patient is in the last stages of their life and all means of cure or rehabilitation had been EXHAUSTED. This is stated in their own bylaws.

But the dehydration part is INCREDIBLE....that is so wrong I cannot STAND it....who in Florida could turn this into a LAW?

I know, really. People like FELOS who want to help disabled, brain damaged, comatose, suicidal, imperfect people DIE 'quote naturally' because starvation and dehydration ALWAYS lead to death. Then they can say it was GOD's way, not call it what it really is, MURDER.

Felos wants to help the imperfect DIE, whether they want it or not, because he KNOWS BEST. The terminally ill probably bore him to tears.

324 posted on 10/29/2003 7:53:33 PM PST by Republic
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To: TaxRelief
"Truthfully, I feel guilty for telling my own mother, when she was dying, that it was okay to let go. I wonder if my words that I thought were encouraging, were actually discouraging. "

For someone in pain, the words you spoke would be very comforting. I'm sure your mother knew what you meant.

That's one of the main differences in this case. Terri is young and healthy and doesn't seem to be in pain.
367 posted on 10/29/2003 9:38:42 PM PST by FR_addict
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