Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) October 30-31, 2003

Various | October 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

Ping your lists!

[sweetliberty]

Terri's Army ping for new thread.

Those of you who are on this list now got there based on being an active poster on one of the long threads OR because you have asked to be on it. There are a few of you who have been added because you are new posters who've come onboard to help in the fight.

If you want to be on or off of this list, please let me know.

[pgyanke]

Yo! Over here!!!

[Robert A Cook PE]

Do "we" have a date yet for the re-assignment hearing for guardian?

(Until the HINO is out of that position, Terri is still threatened with bad care/harmful lack-of-care, and Terri's family will still be dragged through mud every day...)

[sweetliberty]

I think Felos is hoping to get the law overturned before the court appoints a GAL or before the opposition can find a way to toss the HINO out of the role of primary guardian. I don't see how that's acceptable though. I thought it was specified that a GAL would be appointed in 5 days from the time of Gov. Bush's executive order. Is the governor aware that this is apparently NOT being carried out?

Hey Budge, have you talked Gov. Bush's office lately? Hint, hint.

[EternalVigilance]

BUMP!

[lady lawyer]

One thing that keeps bothering me about these allegations that Michael Schaivo put Terri in the coma by abusing her is that Michael Schaivo actually took Terri's doctor/hospital (I'm not sure who the defendant(s) was/were) to trial and got a malpractice judgment.

I can't believe that the lawyers for the doctor/hospital didn't go over the records with a fine tooth comb for evidence that would suggest some other cause for Terri's condition. It wouldn't matter if her records were "sealed." The defendants in that lawsuit would absolutely have been entitled to them.

This just doesn't make sense to me.

It's obvious that he's a selfish bastard who exploited her condition for his own financial gain, after telling the jury he would care for her, and then reversing himself so he could use the money himself. He shouldn't be allowed to make any decisions for her.

But how could he have caused her coma, then have taken the doctor/hospital to trial, knowing that the causation of her condition would be the central issue, and that experts from the other side would have full access to the records and an incentive to blame it on him? I just don't think that could have happened.

[Future Useless Eater]

wow! yanked from Activism/Chapters AGAIN, this time within minutes!

Admin Moderator, are you on the side of wanting to see her killed?

[The Red Zone]

But would/could they have ordered hitherto unperformed tests for her, absent a reason in evidence to do so. The bone scan (that we know about) happened only after Terri was found to experience pain during physical therapy.

[Aliska]

Your #7. I thought about that, too. The only thing I can think of is that at that time, the Schindlers may have encouraged and cooperated with Michael so that they could get money to rehabilitate and care for Terry. Things didn't fall out until after that.

Any suspicions that arose came much later, just as the remembering of Terri's so-called wishes, both of which are hearsay at this point.

That trial may have gone differently if Schindlers had raised the questions that are now flying around.

Maybe the Schindlers were misled as to Michael's intentions as to what he was going to do with the money after he got it. We can't really know that, nor do I know if the money was awarded on the basis of maintenance care or included the intention of attempts at rehabilitation and therapy.

[sweetliberty]

You raise a very valid question and I expect you will get some responses to it. But then, there are a great many things in this case that don't add up or make sense. Perhaps it was because there was never an investigation done and at that time the issue of possible foul play had been dismissed (maybe prematurely).

In any event, the malpractice suit, as I understand it, was based on Terri not having had a heart attack and was aimed at a gynocologist that Michael THOUGHT should have had knowledge of a potassium imbalance, neither being conditions which would automatically spur investigation of possible strangulation. The low potassium level wasn't disputed, I don't believe, but could be caused by lack of oxygen to the brain (for whatever reason), among other possiblities.

[FR_addict]

You make a point, but who would have suspected that Scott Peterson would be dumb enough to call his mistress hundreds of times just before and many times after his wife's disappearance.

I think it's arrogance. He had his in-laws believing that he was going to use the lawsuit funds for Terri's rehabilitation. At the time the police started investigating, Terri's parents couldn't comprehend that Michael may have actually been involved and defended him to the police.

I would never believe he would have gotten away with all he has so far. He lied about what he planned to use the funds for to get the jury to give him a big award. Perhaps the doctor had a previous malpractice suit and wanted to settle quickly.

[sweetliberty]

I guess I don't understand either, why this is being pulled from activism. The activism HERE as a result of these threads were a BIG factor in getting Terri's Bill introduced and passed into law. There have been FReepers on the scene in Florida for weeks. We are hounding the media to tell the WHOLE story and finally starting to get results. We have acquired new members to FR strictly because of the information to be found here about the case and because of all the FReepers ACTIVELY trying to help. If all this doesn't qualify as activism, Perhaps you could tell us what the official FR definition of activism is.

[lady lawyer]

I thought the bone scans were done about a year after she went into a coma. I can't imagine they would have completed a trial before that.

[ZAKJAN]

unrelated but please prayer warriors while you are at it pray for those that are trapped in the Tropicana hotel parking garage collapse in Atlantic city.
This is local....for me, family and friends on the scene but safe.
Construction site, but people are missing, and injured.

JAN

[sweetliberty]

Ping for some good news! ACLJ GETTING INVOLVED ON TERRI'S BEHALF!

Terri's Parents Want Their Voice Heard in Life-or-Death Case

If you want on or off this list, please let me know.

[The Red Zone]

I don't understand either. Unless the mods are deliberately trying to back FR off from an "advocacy" position lest the ghouls win and then new age sewage comes back seeking vengeance on FR.

[Lanza]

Please add me to the list.

[lady lawyer]

It wouldn't have matter what the Schindlers thought or did, except to the extent that they would have kept quiet about the fact that Terri wanted to divorce Michael because he ws mean. And, I suppose that would have been an important piece of information for the defendants.

But the lawyers for the Defendants had an independent reason to find another way to explain Terri's condition that placed the blame on someone other than the Defendants. If, as people are now saying, there was evidence of physical battering, the defendants' experts should have picked that up without any hints from the Schindlers.

The story now just doesn't makes sense.

[Aliska]

At the time the police started investigating, Terri's parents couldn't comprehend that Michael may have actually been involved and defended him to the police.

Fr. Rob wrote that the police came to Mr. Schindler around the time of the mishap after having been alerted by ER personnel (can't find that part now), and Mr. Schindler answered in the negative. There never was an investigation after that. Today Fr. Rob has also written that the father told him Terri had bruises on her neck.

"Also, Bob related, "it's in the medical record that when Terri was brought into the hospital she had bruises around her neck." Doctors for the Schindlers have testified that those bruises were consistent with manual strangulation."