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Plan for UN to run internet 'will be shelved' (but now on international agenda)
Financial Times ^ | 11/10/03 | ft

Posted on 11/10/2003 3:26:49 PM PST by Mark Felton

An attempt by developing countries to put management of the internet under United Nations auspices is likely to be shelved at next month's world information summit in Geneva - but the issue is now firmly on the international agenda, summit sources say.

It will be one of the main bones of contention this week as government negotiators and non-governmental organisations descend on Geneva for the final round of preparatory talks on the draft declaration and plan of action due to be endorsed by heads of state and government at the summit on December 10-12.

However, UN officials say they see no compromise emerging. They expect governments to decide instead to continue talks on internet governance with the aim of reaching accord by 2005, when the second stage of the two-part summit is due to take place in Tunisia.

"They're no longer going to try to agree on this," a UN official said last week.

Poorer nations such as Brazil, India, South Africa, China and Saudi Arabia, as well as some richer ones, are growing dissatisfied with the workings of California-based Icann (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), the semi-private internet address regulator set up five years ago.

The critics argue that the internet is a public resource that should be managed by national governments and, at an international level, by an intergovernmental body such as the International Telecommunications Union, the UN agency that is organising the information summit.

However, the US and the European Commission are staunchly defending the Icann model, which is based on minimal regulation and commercial principles. Icann members are predominantly drawn from industrialised countries and the established internet community.

Defenders of the status quo say handing over power to governments could threaten the untrammelled flow of information and ideas that many see as the very essence of the borderless internet.

But these arguments appear to be losing force against the emergence of new challenges such as unwanted advertising ("spam"), privacy and security worries, hate speech and child pornography, which have convinced many governments of the need for international regulation and enforcement.

The question of internet governance, which erupted at a relatively late stage in the preparatory summit negotiations, is just one of many issues negotiators must try to resolve this week. Rich and poor countries are also at odds over creation of a "digital solidarity fund" that would finance investment to bridge the "digital divide" in access to information and communications technologies.

Other unresolved disputes concern the balance between intellectual property protection and access to information, the role of the media, and acceptable boundaries to freedom of expression.


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KEYWORDS: 1984; antiamericanism; bigbrother; censorship; control; freespeech; internet; tyrants; un; unitednations; unpowergrab; untax; unwantscontrol; worldwideweb; www
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To: znix
They'll want our GPS system next

All the more reason to keep as many Dem's out of office as possible! THEY would promote it! Oh, wait, I believe it has already been put into motion by a former Democratic President through dealings with China.

If the internet goes to UN control just grasp your wallet firmly! However in about 10 more years you may be defending the attachment of your hand if you hold on to it too tightly.

81 posted on 11/10/2003 10:37:17 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Mark Felton
Oh man, if nothing else causes a revolution,

The UN taking over the internet would have to!

But seriously, the internet has been an instrument of freeing people - from lies and propaganda, and the world socialists probably can't stand it.

82 posted on 11/10/2003 11:28:24 PM PST by jonatron
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To: proud American in Canada
.islamisareligionofpeace

.rop

83 posted on 11/10/2003 11:30:56 PM PST by jonatron
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
What's the fable about the chicken who couldn't get any of the farm animals to help with planting the wheat, cultivating, harvesting, grinding it, and then baking fresh bread;... but once baked, all the lazy farm animals lined up to eat the bread?
84 posted on 11/10/2003 11:43:09 PM PST by handk (The moon belongs to America, and anxiously awaits our Astro-Men. Will you be among them?)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The UN to run the Internet? They couldn't run a cat off a table!
85 posted on 11/11/2003 5:59:39 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: proud American in Canada
That would be FR's hometown of Fresno.

I think shutting us up is precisely the goal of the UN. They saw how close we came to getting Clinton ousted, and how we were able to stop the Sore/Loserman grab for Florida and the Presidency, and they can't stand it if somehow we were to either succeed here again or inspire others to take up the cause of American conservatism.

86 posted on 11/11/2003 6:01:05 AM PST by steveegg (Wisconsin CCW? If Craps Doyle vetoes, OVERRIDE!!!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
We have a winner.
87 posted on 11/11/2003 6:03:03 AM PST by steveegg (Wisconsin CCW? If Craps Doyle vetoes, OVERRIDE; and if the sheriffs refuse to issue permits, RECALL)
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To: Mark Felton
Defenders of the status quo say handing over power to governments could threaten the untrammelled flow of information and ideas that many see as the very essence of the borderless internet.

But these arguments appear to be losing force against the emergence of new challenges such as unwanted advertising ("spam"), privacy and security worries, hate speech and child pornography, which have convinced many governments of the need for international regulation and enforcement.

It doesn't take much to convince governments that they ought to have control of anything. The problem is, sites like this one would undoubtedly face government scrutiny under the UN's ideal policy. We can't have dissenting voices being heard, after all.

88 posted on 11/11/2003 6:09:12 AM PST by meyer
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To: KantianBurke
Thanks for this! That Mossberg M590A1 GRS Compact is what I want for Christmas (hint to wife...)!
regards,
89 posted on 11/11/2003 6:14:24 AM PST by Thunder 6
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To: Mark Felton
and why do we pump Billion$$$ into this corrupt organization??
90 posted on 11/11/2003 6:16:24 AM PST by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The UN can have my mouse when they can pry my cold dead finger off the clicker.
91 posted on 11/11/2003 6:19:31 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Mark Felton
The UN is incapable of running itself. What a total disaster this would be.

Get ready for the hard left to totally LOVE this idea....sigh.
92 posted on 11/11/2003 6:20:33 AM PST by FeliciaCat
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To: MNLDS
I have a heard and fast rule about that. Anytime anyone--especially a politician--starts talking about doing something "for the children," I grab my wallet, hold on tight, and head for the nearest exit. Because that means only ONE thing...

It's a great justification to cover up that many countries fear the internet.

Cuba, China, Iran, and so on, they all fear the internet - they fear their citizens being able to communicate and organize away from prying eyes. The internet of the '90s and '00s is the taverns and churches of colonial America in the 1760s and 1770s, where resistance to the British was organized.

They fear the internet being used to communicate religious or political beliefs different than the official state religion or political system.

They do everything they can to block a lot their citizens' from seeing a lot of stuff on the internet, but without control (through the UN) they are limited.

Notice, the western world is against this (US, Europe, etc.) - they have open societies and nothing to worry about from the internet.

Imagine countries like China, Cuba, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. voting on what they consider to be hate speech (i.e. many of the things we discuss and hold dearly here at FR).

I can see websites like FR being driven underground.

93 posted on 11/11/2003 6:35:00 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Mark Felton
The internet is a human thought bazaar subject to only one control mechanism -- death.

Those that fear reasoned thought are those that are evil.

94 posted on 11/11/2003 7:02:44 AM PST by thinktwice ("Thinking is man's only basic virtue, from which all the others proceed." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: weegee
It's about censorship; specifically content from the land of Free Speech (America).
As with all things with the power hungry it's about control of both mind and speech!
!NUTS !snoitaN detinU ehT wercS...since they're so bass ackwards
95 posted on 11/11/2003 8:20:37 AM PST by philman_36
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Man does that ever need a "caption this" thread!


"I once ran for POTUS and, after reading the article Explaining Why They Didn't Inhale, I'm wondering why nobody ever asked me if I smoked marijuana..."

96 posted on 11/11/2003 8:29:52 AM PST by philman_36
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To: citabria
A Bump
97 posted on 11/11/2003 8:54:06 AM PST by citabria (zoom, zoom, boom. boom)
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To: Mark Felton
That pesky internet, keeping those culturally illiterate Americans upset about world issues they haven’t the depth of experience to fully understand like so-called human rights abuses by wonderful UN participants such as China, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, ect..., the perfectly good reasons other cultures have for committing terrorist acts against them, and lets not forget their total misconceptions concerning the “Religion of Peace”. These silly Americans must not be permitted to continue to criticize in an unmonitored forum what is beyond their limited intellect. It is the United Nations’ duty to provide for their re-education. (And collect the taxes that can be generated in the process.)
98 posted on 11/11/2003 9:14:04 AM PST by Hillwoman
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99 posted on 11/11/2003 9:42:06 AM PST by ELS
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To: weegee
That's exactly right. And those socialist commie bastards will decide what is hate speech (anything conservative) and what isn't (socialist,leftist pablum).



100 posted on 11/11/2003 9:59:02 AM PST by Ribeye (.50 Action Express....Don't leave home without it.)
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