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Bremer leaves Iraq suddenly...
Drudge/Yahoo ^ | Reuters

Posted on 11/11/2003 8:09:35 AM PST by ClintonBeGone

U.S. governor, Paul Bremer, has left for Washington at short notice and canceled a meeting on Tuesday with visiting Polish Prime Minister Leszek Miller, the Polish delegation said.

Officials in the U.S.-led administration had no immediate comment on Bremer's trip to Washington


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KEYWORDS: bremer; iraq; saddam
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To: iBillDavis
you mean millions, right?
101 posted on 11/11/2003 9:19:59 AM PST by Sabretooth (I'm not SabERtooth, Im SabREtooth.)
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To: Quilla
The CIA just recently authenticated bin Laden's voice from an audio tape. Government officials state that Saddam is behind the recent attacks against our troops in Iraq.

The CIA has never officially authenticated his voice. Show me a cite that says that. Every article of that trope that I've read cites "CIA sources" or "intelligence sources", which is NOT the CIA speaking -- it's the lib media pulling a "Gilligan".

As for govt officials, they are careful to be unspecific as to whether Saddam is alive, i.e., "if Saddam is behind these attacks", "whether or not Saddam is behind these attacks", etc.

The reason for speaking that way is that they don't have the corpus delecti, i.e., Saddam's body, and so prudence dictates that they err on the side of conservatism, that he 'might' be alive. That's understandable.

But the stready passage of time without Saddam 'proving' he is alive -- to his own supporters -- strengthens the notion that he is dead.

103 posted on 11/11/2003 9:21:08 AM PST by WL-law
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To: Yohan
Or perhaps another major military offensive is scheduled for the near future.
104 posted on 11/11/2003 9:21:31 AM PST by Prov3456
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To: Lazamataz
My a-hole is puckering. Sounds like Al-Qaeda is on the verge of a strike.

I've been at a pucker-factor of 6 all day. Do you rate yourself higher than that?

105 posted on 11/11/2003 9:21:50 AM PST by Snowy (Annoy a lib -> Work hard, earn money, and be happy!)
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To: thinktwice
I think we're forgetting that we expected Baghdad to be so highly secure that we didn't expect to get beyond the gate without a major battle. We moved so rapidly, we pushed Saddam's unprepared forces back AND UNDERGROUND.

We expected door to door fighting and possible chem and bio warfare. WE WOULD HAVE INCURRED MANY CASUALTIES, there is no doubt.

The loss of every soldier hurts but I believe our plan kept down those losses, probably more than we think.

We've chosen a road. It is a road of compassion, freedom and a better life for the Iraqi people.

It is interesting to note that the people who helped us in the Revolution have turned their back on us and the people we fought (England) have joined us.

It is a case of the "world turned down" being once more righted? I believe so.

106 posted on 11/11/2003 9:22:32 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Hatteras
Captured? Unearthed pieces maybe... Just curious though, how come they never even captured any of the two dozen Saddamm look-a-likes?

Might be because they were "look-a-likes, and not the real thing.

107 posted on 11/11/2003 9:23:06 AM PST by Pure Country
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To: Yohan
Bremer forgot his 2:30 p.m. Wednesday haircut appointment in D.C. He would not trust sitting down in an Iraqui barber's chair with that barber having a sharp razor in his hand!!!!!
108 posted on 11/11/2003 9:24:29 AM PST by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: Revolting cat!
Good GOSH!! I have an appointment in an hour to see the dentist this morn, did you HAVE to show the CHAIR of horrors!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
109 posted on 11/11/2003 9:26:44 AM PST by RoseofTexas (r)
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To: Sacajaweau
We pushed Saddam's unprepared forces back AND UNDERGROUND.

They planned to go underground. Guerilla warfare is always the way against superior force. If loyalists had stood their ground, our casualty count would be much higher, but the nature of these casualties now are a hugh PR edge for the enemy.

110 posted on 11/11/2003 9:31:54 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy (son of a ...)
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To: Sabretooth
no...this guy is a billionaire...
111 posted on 11/11/2003 9:34:46 AM PST by iBillDavis
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To: seamole
and does not signal a return to all-out war.

That must be the line that the frog(my apologies to all our amphibian friends) focused on. I must say though, Condi is somewhat off if she thinks we had been waging 'all-out war', that has yet(but hopefully won't) be seen.

112 posted on 11/11/2003 9:36:05 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: iBillDavis
From Wash. Post

On Monday, he and a partner committed up to $5 million to MoveOn.org, a liberal activist group, bringing to $15.5 million the total of his personal contributions to oust Bush.
113 posted on 11/11/2003 9:37:18 AM PST by Sabretooth (I'm not SabERtooth, Im SabREtooth.)
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To: seamole
Robert Hill to meet US Governor Paul Bremer

PM - Monday, 10 November , 2003 18:14:00

Reporter: Sally Sara

MARK COLVIN: In Iraq, the US Governor Paul Bremer has warned that guerrilla attacks are likely to get worse, not better. In an interview with the London Times, Mr Bremer said the price of failure was too high for the Americans to leave, and claimed the level of attacks was, paradoxically, a sign that the coalition's reconstruction efforts were succeeding.

He said the terrorists could see that what he called the reconstruction dynamic was moving against them.

Australia's Defence Minister senator Robert Hill will be meeting Mr Bremer later tonight, and the results of that meeting will have an effect on what he recommends back to cabinet about Australia's troop presence.

I asked our correspondent in Baghdad, Sally Sara, about Senator Hill's schedule.

SALLY SARA: This is quite an important trip for Senator Hill, and I guess he's really doing two main things: one is to meet with some of the air crew and also the soldiers here, to get a sense from them as to what the situation's like.

And then, secondly, he's holding a range of meetings with officials from the US-led Coalition and also the Iraqi Governing Council as well, to get a sense from them as to whether Australia's contribution is still what's needed, if there are any changes required.

Our contribution at the moment, there are around 800 servicemen and women, and a lot of them are filling niche roles in the Coalition, including air traffic controllers, those kind of tasks, rather than just general troops on the ground.

So, our input is quite specialised, and Senator Hill's here to have a look to see whether we're really hitting the needs of the Coalition at the moment; and also, given the kind of week that it's been here in Iraq, checking on the safety and security issues for the troops that are here already.

MARK COLVIN: Is the security situation now such that Senator Hill might be having really big second thoughts about keeping so many Australians there?

SALLY SARA: He was saying yesterday that obviously it's a concern for the Government, and it's something that the senior members of the Government are thinking about all the time, he said, particularly given the large number of US casualties.

And so far the Australian troops have largely been excluded from that, but certainly the risk is there. And the climate is so unpredictable that it's not wise to assume that because our troops have been fortunate so far, that they have some sort of guarantee of safety.

So there was a lot of concern from him about that, and he was speaking carefully with the troops here as well, getting a briefing about exactly what the situation is, so that he can take those kind of messages back to Cabinet in Canberra.

MARK COLVIN: Given what Paul Bremer, the top American in Baghdad, has been saying to the media, what kind of picture is he likely to paint for Robert Hill?

SALLY SARA: The kind of message that we're getting from Paul Bremer, who's the US chief administrator here, is that he's forecasting that the attacks are going to continue, if not to get worse, within the country.

And that's given the kind of week that we've had. So we're really talking about significant bloodshed, and Paul Bremer is predicting that that will continue, particularly with their concerns about the number of foreign fighters that might be in the country.

So it's not a very encouraging message is some ways. The administration here, which is dealing with these difficulties every day, is seeing the weeks and months ahead as extremely difficult, and really all the focus at the moment is on security.

Two or three weeks ago we were talking about reconstruction and other issues. Now, security is very much top of the agenda and overshadowing some of the other priorities of the Coalition, because if they can't get this sorted out then it makes it very difficult to move ahead in other areas.

MARK COLVIN: There have been an awful lot of arrests in the last 24, 48 hours, including a number who are suspected of involvement in the attack on the Al-Rasheed Hotel a couple of weeks ago. Are the Americans making progress in that regard?

SALLY SARA: We're not getting a lot of detail from the Coalition as to exactly who's been arrested, how they found them, what kind of evidence that they have. They're talking about arrests of up to 18 people for the rocket attack on the Al-Rasheed Hotel last month, plus a number of other suspected militants – up to around 140 that they've rounded up.

The other thing that's changing, which is important to take note of, is that the US has responded with heavy fire, bombing raids with 500-pound bombs from F-16s, mortars and artillery and small arms fire. That's in Tikrit and also in Fallujah, which have been the site of a number of incidents.

So that's quite a different approach, and the US military is showing its military strength in those areas, which could go one of two ways: obviously sending a message of strength to those who are attacking the US forces, but also there's a risk that that kind of activity may frighten and put offside the local community, and they're the very people that the Coalition is relying on to gather intelligence to make these kind of arrests.

So it's a very delicate balance between doing nothing and not taking action against the militants, and the other side may be there's a risk that they could go too far and alienate themselves further from the civilian population. So that's quite a significant change as well.

MARK COLVIN: Our correspondent in Baghdad, Sally Sara.

114 posted on 11/11/2003 9:39:43 AM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Bizarre. What's the title of that article have to do with the content of the article? Strange those sloppy journalists....
115 posted on 11/11/2003 9:43:52 AM PST by Theo
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To: WL-law
Exactly. If Saddam and UBL are alive, may they come on video and talk about Britney Spears' new "In The Zone" cd.


116 posted on 11/11/2003 10:11:33 AM PST by petercooper (Proud member of the VRWC)
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To: seamole
Maybe in response to the general(s) who said the terror would get worse. Maybe Bremer said the same.


Looks like we shouldn't have disbanded the Iraqi army after all...

I say, impose a government with a strong authority figure. Also impose an election date within a year. From what I can tell, it's basically what the Iraqis want.
117 posted on 11/11/2003 10:16:57 AM PST by Shermy
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To: biss5577
It's just a luncheon at the Heritage Foundation.
118 posted on 11/11/2003 10:33:21 AM PST by CyberAnt
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To: ClintonBeGone
"candidates for president would jump all over Bush for admitting he's failing in Iraq"

President Bush is not motivated by what the democrats SAY or DON'T SAY.
119 posted on 11/11/2003 10:37:02 AM PST by CyberAnt
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To: r9etb
Also .. there have been comments lately that Bush admin is disappointed in governing council in Iraq. Perhaps they have a new plan to try to motivate these people.
120 posted on 11/11/2003 10:39:34 AM PST by CyberAnt
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To: CyberAnt
One rumor is that the Council may be replaced by an interim government similar to the Afghan government.
121 posted on 11/11/2003 10:41:34 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: Sacajaweau
A very good point. And those same fellows who where wailing and gnashing their teeth about all our soon-to-be casualties before the war are now wailing and gnashing their teeth about the causulaties today. Is anything worth doing today if we have to face a hardship? Even if it means avoiding LARGER hardship later?

I wirte this as a old military retiree who would gladly put back on his uniform and go to Iraq if they'd have me.

122 posted on 11/11/2003 10:42:55 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: CyberAnt
President Bush is not motivated by what the democrats SAY or DON'T SAY.

Come on... I'm a Bush fan... but this statement is complete denial.

123 posted on 11/11/2003 10:44:49 AM PST by kjam22
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To: All
CPA Compound Attacked....

Guess we know why he got the hell out of there now.
124 posted on 11/11/2003 10:48:25 AM PST by RepublicanArmy (God bless our Troops, Our President, & God Bless America!!!)
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To: RepublicanArmy
Update:

4 to 6 explosions per Fox News
125 posted on 11/11/2003 10:49:20 AM PST by RepublicanArmy (God bless our Troops, Our President, & God Bless America!!!)
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To: Sabretooth
George Soros is a communist if he wants to support Move On Org. to fight GWB.
126 posted on 11/11/2003 10:49:31 AM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: RepublicanArmy
MSNBC reporting smoke rising from area of US Headquarters in green area of Baghdad. At least 6-8 detonations.
127 posted on 11/11/2003 10:51:24 AM PST by Ragirl
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To: ImphClinton
Maybe Bremer is being told to make plans to annoint Chalabi as new Iraqi PM.
128 posted on 11/11/2003 11:04:11 AM PST by GO65
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To: nuffsenuff
"With Gen. Abizaids comments in mind, this unscheduled trip does sound like there is definitely something big on the horizon"

Surely, you don't think the General's comments were made without Rumsfeld's approval ?

129 posted on 11/11/2003 11:04:24 AM PST by Darlin' ("Americans do not turn away from duties because they are hard...." GWB, 26 Feb 2003)
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To: Darlin'
Of course not.
130 posted on 11/11/2003 11:23:42 AM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: seamole
"Putting a torturer back in Baghdad"

---There are others.

"and rearming the loyal Baathist Army would be losing the war."

The army wasn't really Baathist, and certainly not loyal to Saddam. The 400,000+ army didn't fight at all. They went home, or stayed in the barracks.

They're on our payroll now.
133 posted on 11/11/2003 11:30:01 AM PST by Shermy
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To: seamole

US overseer Paul Bremer in occupied Iraq will visit Washington for 'routine meetings'(AFP/File/Sabah Arar)

Paul Bremer heads for Washington: Pentagon In Baghdad earlier a spokesman refused to give any reason for the unexpected departure. Bremer cancelled a meeting scheduled for Tuesday with visiting Polish Prime Minister Leszek Miller.

"He will be updating the progress of the CPA, discussing recent attacks," said Megan Grafton, duty press officer for the Pentagon.

"Probably different elements in the investigation of the Black Hawk incident will be discussed, I'm sure," she added.

"My understanding is these meetings are not unexpected," she added.

A senior defense official said privately that Bremer "routinely comes back to Washington to consult with US officials and that's what he is doing."

134 posted on 11/11/2003 11:35:12 AM PST by TexKat
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To: Hatteras
"Just curious though, how come they never even captured any of the two dozen Saddamm look-a-likes?"

That reminds me of a great joke.

During the last days of the war, before Baghdad was taken, a dozen of Saddam's lookalikes were kept in a bunker deep underground. They were no more aware of whether or not Saddam had survived the first few attacks than anyone else.

Eventually, Uday came in and told them all, "I have good news and bad news. The good news is that Saddam is still alive, and so you all get to keep your high-paying jobs as lookalikes."

They all smiled and sighed in relief. "What's the bad news, one asked?"

"He's lost an arm and a leg. Line up, folks."

Qwinn
136 posted on 11/11/2003 11:44:11 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: ClintonBeGone
Here's a novel thought, suppose that we know have conclusive evidense that Russia, France and or Germany have been aiding and abetting the Baath Party during this entire conflict. Suppose it has something to do with the two M1s that were hit, one with a series of landminds, the other with some hypervelocity kinetic weapon or direct energy weapon.

Could it involve China and N. Korea?

We do live in interesting times.
137 posted on 11/11/2003 11:57:34 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Mo1
Both Saddam and Osama will be captured on October 31 or November 1, 2004.
138 posted on 11/11/2003 12:10:17 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: kjam22
If Bush was motivated by what the dems say .. we would never have gone to Iraq; we would have given over our soverignty to the UN; we would never have had tax cuts; we would have signed the Kyoto treaty .. do you want more.

Bush had an agenda when he came to office. He knew what he wanted to get done. What the dems do or say is not part of Bush's agenda.

Remember .. the current President was witness to how the democrats operated for over 12 years. It began when Reagan was President, and his dad was VP (8 years). He watched and learned. He also saw the dems treachery when his dad was President (4 years); and now for almost 3 years of his own presidency.

The dems have just one plan .. find out what Bush wants and then do WHATEVER IT TAKES (lying, cheating, etc.) to stop it. And .. the dems don't care if the plan is good for America.

Knowing this .. Bush has just forged ahead with HIS OWN PLANS .. and what the dems say .. for it or against it .. has not played a part.

And .. if you were truly a "Bush fan" you would have known this information already.
139 posted on 11/11/2003 12:25:41 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: ClintonBeGone
Hmmm. Wonder if they've captured Saddam?

That would cause mass depression among the DUmmies.

140 posted on 11/11/2003 12:29:52 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Legalize Caffeine NOW!!!)
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To: nuffsenuff
In a nut shell, he said that they were considering taking the gloves off and bashing some heads if attacks continued in some of the hot spots like fallujah.

what a great plan.

that's worked really effectively for the israel occupation in recent years - i'm sure it will work great for us too.

141 posted on 11/11/2003 12:31:50 PM PST by jethropalerobber
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To: seamole
Insurgents Fire Mortars in Baghdad

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents fired mortars after sundown Tuesday in the center of the Iraqi capital, and two rounds exploded within the American headquarters area known as the "green zone," the U.S.-led coalition said.

There were no reports of damage or casualties after up to eight detonations thundered through the heart of the capital shortly after 9:30 p.m.

In a statement issued late Tuesday, the Coalition Provisional Authority said two projectiles exploded in the green zone but caused no casualties. The statement said there was no damage to the coalition headquarters, located in the Republican Palace.

After one of the detonations, white smoke could be seen rising from an area just north of the palace.

Iraqi guards working for Iyad Allawi, a member of the Iraqi Governing Council, said they counted at least six detonations near the area, along the west bank of the Tigris River.

Iraqi police began setting up checkpoints in the center of the city in an effort to apprehend those responsible.

142 posted on 11/11/2003 12:35:55 PM PST by TexKat
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To: Edmund Burke
"Both Saddam and Osama will be captured on October 31 or November 1, 2004."

SURPRISE!

143 posted on 11/11/2003 12:37:59 PM PST by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Edmund Burke
Both Saddam and Osama will be captured on October 31 or November 1, 2004.

Well they better not forget to take them out a good week or so before to thaw. ;-)

144 posted on 11/11/2003 12:39:08 PM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: colorado tanker
Yes .. I heard that too!
146 posted on 11/11/2003 12:42:30 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: ClintonBeGone
Bremer is known to support higher troop levels in Iraq. If Bush is considering overruling Rumsfeld and sending more troops to Iraq, it is possible Bremer's presence is required in meetings.
147 posted on 11/11/2003 12:43:50 PM PST by aristeides
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To: CyberAnt
President Bush is not motivated by what the democrats SAY or DON'T SAY.

Tell that to Carl Rove.

148 posted on 11/11/2003 12:46:12 PM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: kjam22
Come on... I'm a Bush fan... but this statement is complete denial.

LOL DING DING DING even *I* haven't drank that much koolaid.

149 posted on 11/11/2003 12:46:54 PM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: seamole
Don't know why they heard six explosions. Secondaries? Echoes?

Counting launch and echo was my thought on why some may have reported the number multiplied by factors of two and three.

150 posted on 11/11/2003 12:47:24 PM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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