Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack

News Max.Com ^ | 11-21-03

[halfdome]

What were Bubba and Arafat doing, planning for the destruction of America by Muslim terrorists?

[Grampa Dave]

My Dad had several relatives and friends involved in the Race Riots in Tulsa.

This perspective was to show the hot heads, that this nation has used martial law a lot to quell situations. When the situation became normal, the martial law was over.

I remember Ike ordering the paratroopers to go to Little Rock, Ark..

You and I are in total agreement about General Franks. He is a good man and is trying project what could/might happen if a WMD attack happened in America. I would like read his actual remarks to see if they were taken out of context with a few key words changed.

[GOPJ]

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[GOPJ]

Great comment:

Franks is what-iffing a worst case scenario, factoring in human nature. Don't shoot the messanger for delivering a warning.

[B4Ranch]

Those children are amongst the 20%.

[B4Ranch]

<"The 20% of which you speak is all above 45 years old. "

Perhaps I should have said primarily instead of all.

[Travis McGee]

You and I are in agreement.

[BobS]

Hi hope,

There is hope. Bush will get reelected. He is in the process of decimating the Left. Beyond that, all that needs to be done is for him to suspend all gun laws as an emergency executive order. And suggest all able-bodied law-abiding people own a weapon. And get some training. Hard and expensive, but doable. 100 million or so armed people will send a real message to the world. There is a time for these things, as we know. The Swiss have done very well with the same.

Bob

[hope]

Thanks for being forgiving...

I remember ash very well and the other's.. just have forgotten some of their names. Remember the ash alerts that Don Morgan use to run on each thread? Now they have their own DUmb website. I can tell you after spending a couple of visits there, I am astonished at the stupidity of those who use that word to describe the president.

[Destro]

The scary truth is that if the US military came breaking down our door - the guns would either be handed over or the hold outs will be Waco-ed. How many of us Americans are used to living out in the mountains like Chechens or Bosnian Serbs or Albanians? Jack Frost comes nipping at my nose up in the woods and I'm back home watching football in my easy chair with a picture of El Presidente hanging on a shrine on the wall. Hell 99.999% would give up resistance as soon as the toilet paper runs out.

The only hope we would have is if some govenors and their states, preferably those that still have a manufacturing base refuse to stand up to the Federal govt. Good Luck.

[William Tell]

BobS said: "Beyond that, all that needs to be done is for him [Bush] to suspend all gun laws as an emergency executive order. And suggest all able-bodied law-abiding people own a weapon. "

There is some fear by the anti-gunners that this is already happening due to the policy adopted by Ashcroft. Although Ashcroft's policy suggests that there can be "reasonable" restrictions, that notion is inconsistent with a "right". Virtually none of the gun laws on the books can pass a "strict scrutiny" test because they have no provable impact on any compelling government interest.

One might justify the Brady Bill if it was demonstrated that murderers and bank robbers were committing their crimes with knives. This is not happening because the law is ineffective.

I believe that it was the CDC, probably to make amends for past anti-gun activities, which examined some 50 studies of gun-control effectiveness and found that there was no evidence that any gun law had had a beneficial effect.

[archy]

<"The 20% of which you speak is all above 45 years old. "

Perhaps I should have said primarily instead of all.

Most definately. Though it's the influence and example set by those 45-year-old plus parents and grandparents that's the usual motivator for most of the relative youngsters. There are exceptions to that generality as well, but it's certainly more commonly so than not.

-archy-/-

[William Tell]

Destro said: "The scary truth is that if the US military came breaking down our door - the guns would either be handed over or the hold outs will be Waco-ed. "

You need to choose your battles wisely. Live to fight another day. Given the numbers, if each patriot takes down his minimum alotment of one jack-booted-thug, the victory goes to the patriots.

There were certainly some battlefield victories during the American Revolution, but the real victory came about because Washington kept the army in the field. It was never going to be safe for those who supported the tyrannical government of King George. Never.

[archy]

How would armed Americans handle a chemical or biological attack on the US?

Probably most immediately with checkpoints at jurisdictional boundaries, most commonly countyn lines.

In more extreme situations, by cutting or dropping briodges at rivers and posting guards to discourage tourism. Depends of the continued seriousness of the threat and follow-on incidents.

-archy-/-

[Destro]

We citizens need to be amred enough to serve as a deterent-make them think twice and hesitate and hope in that hesitation buys enough time for some national guards or regular military units to refuse orders and attempt a restoration of comstitutional govt.

[Destro]

We citizens need to be amred enough to serve as a deterent-make them think twice and hesitate and hope in that hesitation buys enough time for some national guards or regular military units to refuse orders and attempt a restoration of comstitutional govt.

[Eastbound]

"Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack"

Nor will the islamocrazies. But then, that is what they hope for -- like all cowards who press on until someone else liberates them from their self-imposed misery.

You don't have to be a shrink to understand that the islamo-terrorists are in fact, anti-islam. They hate the religion and are doing their best to extinguish islam world-wide even if the cost will be the total decimation of the Muslim world.

[Travis McGee]

Your resistance pardigm is all wrong IMHO. The days of playing Robin Hood in the woods, hiding out from the evil sheriff, are long over. Modern technology makes that suicide. Ditto resisting at your door: indeed a Waco would be the result.

But that's not the end of it!

The prudent person, in a time of peril, would cache the "serious" arms off of his property. If the "sheriff" came to collect the guns, he would hand over his "litmus test of freedom" weapon, the old revolver or other expendable weapon, with a smile on his face.

Then some weeks later, after midnight, he'd go collect his serious weapon and pay the "sheriff" a visit at home. Then he'd put the rifle away and go to work like every other day.

Put it another way: "camouflage" would not mean a BDU uniform. "Camouflage" would be a 3 piece suit, a UPS uniform, a plumber's service truck.

[eyespysomething]

IIRC Hawaii was under martial law from Dec 7, 1941 until WWII was over.

[Travis McGee]

ping above.