One Liberal's Rant

email -- private source not revealed | 11/23/03 | A liberal relative who thinks he is moderate

[kojak]

I didn't vote for Davis either time, but I didn't vote for the recall either. Yes, he was an arrogant jerk , into political favors, but he did nothing to deserve being removed. That should be reserved for "high crimes and misdemeanors" (and blow jobs according to the republicans). The recall set a very dangerous president. Davis is not responsible for the down turn in the economy! The Dot.com crash took half the country down with it, but the biggest blow to the economy was the so-called "energy crisis", that was proven to have been a fraud to get California to sign on to higher rates for the next 7 years. The shortage was totally artificial. All the spoiled meat , bankrupt restaurants and dairy farmers, and pictures on the news of baby chickens being dumped into garbage bins because the black outs --was all rigged by companies in Texas, the biggest of which was Enron. They are recorded on tape laughing , saying "its only California--ha-ha"...the typical Texan contempt for California that Jeb Bush recently let slip into a microphone recently too (did you here about that in his home state?-I bet not-more proof the media is rigged). The Federal government deficit is the main cause of the down turn in the economy. But that could be more conspiracy too. Those Bankers and Bond holding interests were angry at Clinton for being the first modern President to have a balanced budget and a surplus in the Treasury, and at the same time having the nerve to be a Democrat. HE had to be destroyed like Nixon and Carter, so he was tempted with a tart from Oregon named Monica when they couldn't find anything bad in the White water deal. So Bush steals an election by stopping the vote count and taking it to his Daddy's Supreme court, so he comes into office an illegitimate Pres....so, let a couple terrorists slip through --make him look like the hero Clinton was after Oklahoma (When his poll # were highest in history for a PRes.) and Wah-La...they got their new war, that will last forever and all the pork military projects and debt payments by the US on the debt will be substantial for years and years to come. Its all about money. The Right wing has been in control of this country since the Kennedy assassination.

I saw Bernard Goldberg on all the talk shows. His argument doesn't hold up any more. Yes, even Walter Cronkite is on record as saying that most people in Journalism are liberals. Of course they are . If you cover the day to day social things in this country, you would have to become compassionate--now called "liberal (as if it were a bad word) by the right. That is not the point! The point is that the media is controlled at the top by the right...you can go down the list, they are all controlled by conservatives. They call the shots. They want what sells soap, not what educates. The left likes information--the right keeps liking to hear over and over what it thinks and already believes is the truth--never alternate views, never facts. Perfect example is the outing of a CIA agent by the Bush administration for political reasons. This is the biggest outrage in history. Bigger that Watergate or Monica. IF Clinton had done this , you would NEVER have heard the end of it. there is not a peep about it on the news any more after the day it broke. Can you imagine ? outing a CIA agent, basically putting a target on her back because her husband told everyone that the President lied about the reasons for going into a war that is killing American daily in his State of the Union Speech no less. This would be the biggest scandal in history if a Democrat were President. And if a Democrat were in office with this economy and not capturing Osama and Saddam, they would be called a disaster (a la Jimmy Carter), a loser, a weak President and he'd be run out so fast...but the public has been dumbed down , and a march in soviet style lock step to the right--never daring to question this President or risk being called "Unpatriotic". The world has gone nuts. This is not America any more. You need to stand up for democracy, against the patriotic act and this phoney war on terrorism. There is no reason why we should not have Osama by now, none. You can lend me Goldbergs book and I'll lend you Al Frankin's...you need to broaden your horizons. I watch Fox daily and listen to Rush. Do you listen to alternate points of view? You can' be serious about the Democrats being better funded. Bush has raised more $$ than any one in history. The Republicans have 5 or 6 Soros's and Buffet's to the Demo's one...this is the first time. It is because Bush is so bad for our country that people are getting involved. Bush is the most dis organized and chaotic presidency ever---he is the classic ex-alcoholic, ADD, hiding behind Christians , hypocrites there has ever been. You are being duped, the guy is a fraud, a patsy for Wolfawitz and the rest of those tri-lateral commission big bankers and military weapons makers..... and what about Bush outing a CIA agent? How can anyone justify that?

[kojak]

I think this rant is a good example of the mental disease called "liberalism." I would appreciate anyone who can put together a cogent rebuttal to it, or a portion of it. I know its very rambling and difficult to follow, but surely some we can come up with some good retorts and reasoned responses.

--Kojak (back for now)

[ChadGore]

"It's not easy leading party that sucks so much"

[SAMWolf]

You ever hear of the phrases "We the People" or "by consent of the governed"?

We should be able to recall any politician for any reason. They're supposed to work for us and "serve" at our leisure.
If we don't like the job they're doing "We the people" should be able to boot them out.

[CrazyIvan]

"The recall set a very dangerous president."

Yeah, like the citizens having power over government. (Shudder)

[CrazyIvan]

Wow, posted basically same thought as you at exactly the same time. You know what they say about great minds!

[Miss Marple]

I will deal with the Wilson affair, which he complains about at the end.

1. Wilson's wife was outed by herself, when she listed her CIA front company with her name in her donation to Gore.

2. Wilson also, if he wanted to be so secret, shouldn't have written an op-ed BRAGGING about his trip in the New York Times.
3. Wilson is, and always has been, a democrat. He is currently campaigning for John Kerry.

[Always Right]

Those Bankers and Bond holding interests were angry at Clinton for being the first modern President to have a balanced budget and a surplus in the Treasury, and at the same time having the nerve to be a Democrat. HE had to be destroyed like Nixon and Carter, so he was tempted with a tart from Oregon named Monica...

What a paranoid little mind. Monica was a plant by the banking cartel. Whew, that's a new one. You would think those rich bankers could find something a little more attractive

[jocon307]

'That should be reserved for "high crimes and "misdemeanors"'

Well, I'm not going to slog through the whole thing, but let me make this point: the "High crimes & misemeanors" standard is the standard for Impeachment of certainly the president, and possibly all Federal office-holders and Judges too (I think), in any event, it has nothing to do with California's law re: recall from office. I'm not sure what the California constitution says about recall, but there is no dispute that the recall was legit from first signature obtained to Arnie's swearing in the other day. In fact, the entire procedure was overseen by the Democrat Sec'y of State.

Having said that, I will just add that Kojak is one of my fave TV shows of all time, and Telly Savala's portrayal of that character, on late night re-runs, got me through a rather difficult time in my life.

Good luck with your cranky, liberal, relative.

[ex-Texan]

There was a saying back in the early 1970's about how "opinions are like @ssh*les -- everybody has one . . ."

The problem today is the media gives away time and features reports about everyday people who disgorge half-baked political opinions and who spew garbage just like this. Please, oh please, do we have to see it posted here, too?

[John Valentine]

This guy is not "liberal", he is demented. Not that the two are mutually exclusive.

I'd suggest that you put him in touch with the Larouche organization. Their paranoia will tough a nerve with your freind. I'm sure they will suck him right in and take him foa all he's worth.

Later on, when he is demoralized, disillusioned and broke, you can come to his rescue.

That will feel pretty good.

[SAMWolf]

Yep. I'm sick and tired of politicians being treated like a special class. Laws that protect them but not me, rules that don't apply to them but apply to me, etc.

[Always Right]

and what about Bush outing a CIA agent? How can anyone justify that?

I didn't know she was gay....

[concerned about politics]

I told my distant relatives to stop sending me left wing junk mail. I'm not into fiction novels.

[concerned about politics]

PS....

They had absolutely no idea how belittled I felt. Why would they even consider us to be low life Democrats? I was appauled. It was one of the biggest insults I think I've ever recieved. They pretty much called us social trash by thinking we'd vote for a Democrat. I was furious!

[okie01]

Wow! How much Kool-aid did he drink?

You don't need "good retorts" and "reasoned responses". You need to find this guy a good urologist. And a stomach pump...

[jigsaw]

I'll lend you Al Frankin's [book]...you need to broaden your horizons.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

[concerned about politics]

Humph. Some people say the great tribulation will be mental - madness in the spiritual world - because the Book of Revelation used symbolisms the same way the human subconscience does during sleep. Maybe they're right. The liberals are having psychological melt downs. They're becomming more incoherant and illogical by the day. The e-mail sent to me by a liberal relative was just like this one - illogical babble.

[ronnieb]

He is a typical foam at the mouth lib, just a product of too much MTV, with an overlay of John Stewart and Saturday night live. The way to handle him is to make him spell out every half wit, stupid thing he says, I didn't read his entire screed, but everything was accusation, without fact. Cliches one and all! Make him name the 5 or six soros, for example, he can't because they don't exist, the way to deal with guys like this is challenge their facts, and then laugh in their face, when they can't come up with it. When they get personal, like his comments about you need to do this and you need to do that, tell him to mind his own bizinezz, libs always want to sneer at you, and you need to sneer right back, by the way, 9 out of the top ten richest men in the senate are democrats, look it up yourself, one of them has the biggest money name in American history, namely rockefeller. The media is liberal biased, but no liberal anywhere will admit it, expecially lowly intelligent types that get their politics from the local rock station. They believe in boogie men. Some of my favorite lines "where did ya get that Saturday night live?" "Oh...Jon Stewart telling you what to think again?"
Or "Does it bother you that Byrd was in the KKK?" Say...does it bother you that Ted Kennedy left his girlfriend hanging upside down by her seat belt, in 6 feet of water...while he sobered up" "I call them nazi's" "I accuse them of sticking their jack boots on my throat" I call them every name I can think of, my days of sitting there and trying to be logical with these brown shirts have long passed...I am never rude first, but the minute the lip curls, the sneer comes, I ask about big fat Ted Kennedy...the only murderer in the senate...works every time..your typical, white boy liberals are products of an entertainment, and educational establishment, that teaches them to believe they are warriors against evil, the poor fools would have been big time goose steppers just 60 years ago...get in their face, don't let them sneer...

[ozzymandus]

Whoever wrote this is about one step short of a straightjacket. Paranoid dementia.

[HitmanLV]

"The recall set a very dangerous president"

It was hard to keep reading after that....