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To: kojak
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you said I used cliche's, so I read again and found no cliches. You say I'm arrogant, but the right thinks they are always right and don't allow dissent, or listen to alternative points of view--isn't that the definition of arrogant?. I just said I watch Fox, and listen to Rush, and come up with my conclusions on my own--not what any party or philosophy tells me to think. I vote Democrat and Republican. Does the right do that? Is that what arrogant people do?.. I look for honest people...non-phoney and "real " people, like John McCain, Wesley Clark and Jimmy Carter. The right props up people who are criminals like Ollie North and G.Gordon Liddy and gives them talk shows! they hold no principles except to win--they knock "Hollywood types messing in politics" but glorify Reagan and Swarznigger (more Democrat than Republican in beliefs) beyond super hero proportions. It is not a democracy if you blindly follow one party line no matter which way it turns...if you mock dissent and call names and never listen or answer real questions with real facts rather than bias opinions--that's arrogant. It is a fact that Bush outed a CIA agent and that is an impeachable offense. It is a fact that the Patriot Act is being abused and we are in real danger of a Soviet style government (Fact: people who protested Bush were photographed by the Bureau of Homeland Security and blocked from flying on planes, by being put on a "Watch " list that prohibits flight) (Fact: Bush used the Dept of Homeland Security to hunt down democrat lawmakers in Texas so they could be rounded up and forced into a quorum vote to gerrymander the Texan Congressional districts to get more Republican seats and one just for an oil company). These are facts, not cliches, and it is scary that they get brief mention on the news and Michael Jackson gets 4 hours. This is our Country ! We have to watch our liberties...they are being stripped away by the Patriot Act (Bush seems to love oxymorons BTW--"patriot Act, Clean Air Act", etc.) isn't THAT the definition of arrogant? If a Democrat was doing the stuff this President is doing, you would NEVER hear the end of it. Come on! Wake up ! They are pulling the classic Manchurian Candidate trick on us all.

What about outing a CIA agent? What about Osama? They cannot connect the dots on Terrorism, and they are all over the place creating many new Osamas. We have to start questioning our government before it is too late

30 posted on 11/24/2003 9:56:33 PM PST by kojak
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To: kojak
This guy's rant is so full of lies and flights of fancy insisted upon as "facts" that I'm not sure how manages to keep his fantasy world separate from the real world.

Or, maybe he doesn't. When this sort of thing gets bad enough, people with this degree of disassociation can become dangerous to themselves and others. I certainly wouldn't trust him with children.

Meanwhile, I'm sure that this guy is optimal recruiting material for Lyndon LaRouche, and I'm very series when I suggest that you try to put him in touch with the LaRouche organization.
33 posted on 11/24/2003 10:08:25 PM PST by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: kojak
Okay, I wrote my last post during the time you just posted the latest pablum pile from this gentleman. Don't waste your time on him. He is obviously beyond hope or redemption. Just tell him you might see him at the next family reunion, and if he gets on politics, just smile slightly while he rants and excuse yourself to the restroom during one of this deep breaths.
34 posted on 11/24/2003 10:08:49 PM PST by APFel
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