Posted on 11/24/2003 8:58:07 PM PST by kojak
I didn't vote for Davis either time, but I didn't vote for the recall either. Yes, he was an arrogant jerk , into political favors, but he did nothing to deserve being removed. That should be reserved for "high crimes and misdemeanors" (and blow jobs according to the republicans). The recall set a very dangerous president. Davis is not responsible for the down turn in the economy! The Dot.com crash took half the country down with it, but the biggest blow to the economy was the so-called "energy crisis", that was proven to have been a fraud to get California to sign on to higher rates for the next 7 years. The shortage was totally artificial. All the spoiled meat , bankrupt restaurants and dairy farmers, and pictures on the news of baby chickens being dumped into garbage bins because the black outs --was all rigged by companies in Texas, the biggest of which was Enron. They are recorded on tape laughing , saying "its only California--ha-ha"...the typical Texan contempt for California that Jeb Bush recently let slip into a microphone recently too (did you here about that in his home state?-I bet not-more proof the media is rigged). The Federal government deficit is the main cause of the down turn in the economy. But that could be more conspiracy too. Those Bankers and Bond holding interests were angry at Clinton for being the first modern President to have a balanced budget and a surplus in the Treasury, and at the same time having the nerve to be a Democrat. HE had to be destroyed like Nixon and Carter, so he was tempted with a tart from Oregon named Monica when they couldn't find anything bad in the White water deal. So Bush steals an election by stopping the vote count and taking it to his Daddy's Supreme court, so he comes into office an illegitimate Pres....so, let a couple terrorists slip through --make him look like the hero Clinton was after Oklahoma (When his poll # were highest in history for a PRes.) and Wah-La...they got their new war, that will last forever and all the pork military projects and debt payments by the US on the debt will be substantial for years and years to come. Its all about money. The Right wing has been in control of this country since the Kennedy assassination.
I saw Bernard Goldberg on all the talk shows. His argument doesn't hold up any more. Yes, even Walter Cronkite is on record as saying that most people in Journalism are liberals. Of course they are . If you cover the day to day social things in this country, you would have to become compassionate--now called "liberal (as if it were a bad word) by the right. That is not the point! The point is that the media is controlled at the top by the right...you can go down the list, they are all controlled by conservatives. They call the shots. They want what sells soap, not what educates. The left likes information--the right keeps liking to hear over and over what it thinks and already believes is the truth--never alternate views, never facts. Perfect example is the outing of a CIA agent by the Bush administration for political reasons. This is the biggest outrage in history. Bigger that Watergate or Monica. IF Clinton had done this , you would NEVER have heard the end of it. there is not a peep about it on the news any more after the day it broke. Can you imagine ? outing a CIA agent, basically putting a target on her back because her husband told everyone that the President lied about the reasons for going into a war that is killing American daily in his State of the Union Speech no less. This would be the biggest scandal in history if a Democrat were President. And if a Democrat were in office with this economy and not capturing Osama and Saddam, they would be called a disaster (a la Jimmy Carter), a loser, a weak President and he'd be run out so fast...but the public has been dumbed down , and a march in soviet style lock step to the right--never daring to question this President or risk being called "Unpatriotic". The world has gone nuts. This is not America any more. You need to stand up for democracy, against the patriotic act and this phoney war on terrorism. There is no reason why we should not have Osama by now, none. You can lend me Goldbergs book and I'll lend you Al Frankin's...you need to broaden your horizons. I watch Fox daily and listen to Rush. Do you listen to alternate points of view? You can' be serious about the Democrats being better funded. Bush has raised more $$ than any one in history. The Republicans have 5 or 6 Soros's and Buffet's to the Demo's one...this is the first time. It is because Bush is so bad for our country that people are getting involved. Bush is the most dis organized and chaotic presidency ever---he is the classic ex-alcoholic, ADD, hiding behind Christians , hypocrites there has ever been. You are being duped, the guy is a fraud, a patsy for Wolfawitz and the rest of those tri-lateral commission big bankers and military weapons makers..... and what about Bush outing a CIA agent? How can anyone justify that?
Oh, BTW, sad, but true: this person is a teacher.
• Wilson's wife was outed by herself, when she listed her CIA front company with her name in her donation to Gore. Wilson also, if he wanted to be so secret, shouldn't have written an op-ed BRAGGING about his trip in the New York Times. Wilson is, and always has been, a democrat. He is currently campaigning for John Kerry.
• “Those Bankers and Bond holding interests were angry at Clinton for being the first modern President to have a balanced budget and a surplus in the Treasury, and at the same time having the nerve to be a Democrat. HE had to be destroyed like Nixon and Carter, so he was tempted with a tart from Oregon named Monica...” What paranoia! Monica was a plant by the banking cartel. Whew, that's a new one. You would think those rich bankers could find something a little more attractive. Have you considered hooking up with the Larouche organization?
• "The recall set a very dangerous president." Yeah, like the citizens having power over government. (Shudder)
• “That should be reserved for "high crimes and "misdemeanors"' The "High crimes & misdemeanors" standard is the standard for Impeachment of certainly the president, and possibly all Federal office-holders and Judges too (I think), in any event, it has nothing to do with California's law re: recall from office.
• I'll lend you Al Frankin's [book]...you need to broaden your horizons. ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Now THAT’S a good example of arrogance!
Her position and disclosure must not have been percieved as important.
LOL. So was mine! No joke! Retired!
I rebutted Al Frankin's book by having him read an Ann Coulter column debnking hi sattack of her book. He just said "Ann Coulter is one of my favorites. I thought you were going to respond to the CIA stuff."
you said I used cliche's, so I read again and found no cliches. You say I'm arrogant, but the right thinks they are always right and don't allow dissent, or listen to alternative points of view--isn't that the definition of arrogant?. I just said I watch Fox, and listen to Rush, and come up with my conclusions on my own--not what any party or philosophy tells me to think. I vote Democrat and Republican. Does the right do that? Is that what arrogant people do?.. I look for honest people...non-phoney and "real " people, like John McCain, Wesley Clark and Jimmy Carter. The right props up people who are criminals like Ollie North and G.Gordon Liddy and gives them talk shows! they hold no principles except to win--they knock "Hollywood types messing in politics" but glorify Reagan and Swarznigger (more Democrat than Republican in beliefs) beyond super hero proportions. It is not a democracy if you blindly follow one party line no matter which way it turns...if you mock dissent and call names and never listen or answer real questions with real facts rather than bias opinions--that's arrogant. It is a fact that Bush outed a CIA agent and that is an impeachable offense. It is a fact that the Patriot Act is being abused and we are in real danger of a Soviet style government (Fact: people who protested Bush were photographed by the Bureau of Homeland Security and blocked from flying on planes, by being put on a "Watch " list that prohibits flight) (Fact: Bush used the Dept of Homeland Security to hunt down democrat lawmakers in Texas so they could be rounded up and forced into a quorum vote to gerrymander the Texan Congressional districts to get more Republican seats and one just for an oil company). These are facts, not cliches, and it is scary that they get brief mention on the news and Michael Jackson gets 4 hours. This is our Country ! We have to watch our liberties...they are being stripped away by the Patriot Act (Bush seems to love oxymorons BTW--"patriot Act, Clean Air Act", etc.) isn't THAT the definition of arrogant? If a Democrat was doing the stuff this President is doing, you would NEVER hear the end of it. Come on! Wake up ! They are pulling the classic Manchurian Candidate trick on us all.
What about outing a CIA agent? What about Osama? They cannot connect the dots on Terrorism, and they are all over the place creating many new Osamas. We have to start questioning our government before it is too late
Worse. It looked like this (I'm just ad libbing the words, but this run-on sums it up anyway)
".......then bush started this war.......gore would have been a better president......they want to let medicare wither on the vine.......dean is better.....cheney and big oil ruined california not davis.....bla bla bla......bla bla bla....."
No paragraphs, punctuation, or capital letters. It was very hard to read. The thoughts just ran into one another.
I do appreciate everyone's contribution. I do think it is instructive to take a peak at home liberals actually think (or fail to do so). For instance I think Hannity is wise in debating liberals like Asner etc. The lights is even brighter when contrasted with the darkness.
Uh, he's talking about BILL CLINTON, after all.
Rich Jewish bankers prostituting a JAP to goyum? IIRC, Abraham did that to his wife (when she was something like 800
years old). The precedent is there, I suppose. If they went to that much trouble, why not just buy the best
Senate money can buy at that point and finish the job? (removal?) Heck, I bet those bankers could have arranged
for any number of fatal STDs/infections. But overt removal would put Gore under their thumbs
Balanced budget/surplus? The smart money would be positioned to profit from the variations.
Energy problems? Wouldn't have anything to do with the lack of new plants, or price controls, would it? BTB, how many
jobs did CA kill with sucking all the engergy from surrounding states by driving up the price?
Journalistic compassion? Yeah, be sure to ask Jacko about that virtue. Try "If it bleeds, it leads".
Recall? Precedent? Only because it made it on to the ballot and was approved, in spite of the attempts to
deny the legal redress of complaints about Davis.
Stopping the FLA vote? No, the Dims were the ones stopping the military ballots from being counted. The FLSC were
unsuccessful in changing the law after the votes had be cast and counted. (And I believe it took them almost
two years to respond to the USSC on that issue.)
Unpatriotic to question Bush? If Dubya says "We're not going to check gas tanks with open flames", only a Dim would complain
about being berated for questioning the wisdom of that policy.
LOL. No, I didn't. Just like this posted e-mail. I got half way through it and said forget it. It's just more of that well known liberal code word garbage.
I took the first few sentances (? what ever they were) and sent back the real facts with links.
Then, I got the "You're mean" treatment the left is also well known for when confronted ( Liberals are not the smartest birds in the barnyard.)
The shortage was caused by the totally artificial cap put on what a customer had to pay for his energy usage. These people are mentally/spiritualy diseased. How can they have so much wrong with their logic, their tenuous grasp on reality, and still be allowed on the streets?
"Tolerance."
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