Posted on 11/28/2003 11:04:25 AM PST by PeteFromMontana
Many Women at Risk of Being Murdered Don't Know It
Fri Nov 28,10:00 AM ET
By Alison McCook
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Nearly one half of women who are about to experience an attempt on their lives at the hands of a boyfriend or husband may not realize they are in danger, new research reports.
A look back at warning signs for 30 women who survived an attempted homicide by an intimate partner revealed that 14 did not know their lives were at risk, and said they were "completely surprised" by the attack.
Most attacks occurred around the time that women tried to end the relationship. And while nearly all women had experienced previous episodes of abuse and violence from their partners, not all instances had been severe.
These findings suggest that, in some cases, the warning signs that a woman's life is in danger may be hard to read, lead author Dr. Christina Nicolaidis of the Oregon Health and Science University in Portland said.
"If I had talked to some of these women before the attack, I would have counseled them about the domestic violence, but I would not have necessarily felt that their lives were in danger," Nicolaidis said.
"Now I am more careful to warn any woman who has experienced intimate partner violence about the risk to her life, especially around the time that the relationship is ending," she added.
In the report, published in the Journal of General Internal Medicine, Nicolaidis and her colleagues note that homicide is the leading cause of death among African-American women between the ages of 15 and 34, and up to half of all women who are murdered are killed by an intimate partner.
Nicolaidis and her colleagues interviewed 30 women between the ages of 17 and 54 who had survived an attempted homicide by their current or former boyfriends or husbands.
All but two of the women had experienced episodes of violence or controlling behavior, such as stalking or preventing them from going anywhere alone, from the man who tried to kill them.
And while 22 of the homicide attempts occurred when women were trying to end their relationships, most women said they were breaking up for reasons other than violence.
There are many possible reasons for why women often do not recognize the danger they are in at the hands of an intimate partner, Nicolaidis said. Many women may have "normalized" former episodes of violence as part of a bad relationship, or focused on the reasons why their lovers were being violent, such as mental health or substance abuse problems, she said.
Classic risk factors for an attempted homicide by an intimate partner include escalating episodes or severity of violence, threats with or use of weapons, alcohol or drug use, and violence toward children, Nicolaidis noted. While every woman included in the report experienced at least one of these standard signs, they were clearly not all "classic" cases, she added.
"The problem is that we often expect women to come to us describing a life filled with many or all of these risk factors, when in fact there may only be a few (risk factors) buried beneath the surface," Nicolaidis said.
In an accompanying editorial, Dr. Lorrie Elliott of the University of Chicago Medical Center writes that these findings demonstrate that counselors need to recognize that "any level" of physical violence or controlling behavior from a partner can signal a woman's life is at risk.
"Curricula on domestic violence should be revised to reflect these findings," she notes.
SOURCE: Journal of General Internal Medicine, October 2003.
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They choose to date men who have excessively aggressive or violent tendencies.
Then they get upset when they act excessively aggressive or violent.
Granted, there are certianly exceptions to this, but not to the degree that the man-hating feminists and their willing whores in the media portray.
The solution to 'domestic violence' is simple. Women should stop putting out to violent men who beat them. And the men of the community should either socially shun or kick the asses of other men who abuse their wives/girlfriends.
For the case when that doesn't work, women should arm themselves and be prepared to defend themselves.
Bus instead of the 'simple' solution, we now have procedures which don't help anyone. Under the current system, no one (except for the feminists who milk the system and the divorce lawyers) really wants to get involve in a domestic situation because all too often the two parties involved will get back together, and turn on the intervening third party.
Many women also used the 'battered wife' excuse as a prelude to a favorable divorce settlement. This route often wreaks havoc on the male in the process. This hurts not only the men who get screwed by the system, but also the decent guys who are reluctant to enter a committed relationship since they don't want to take the risk of having their lives destroyed by a vindictive woman.
In the long run, this also hurts decent women, since fewer men are willing to enter into a committed relationship.
Now the laws have gotten so severe that I've known women who have called the police and said that their husband/boyfriend hit them even though they never were never touched, and by law, the cops has to arrest the guy. Convictions are assured, even though it's just her word against his.
On the other side of the fence, my best friend's sister-in-law just went back with the boyfriend that slapped her around and threatened to kill her and her family. It's not like this girl is hard to look at or has the personality of a brick. She's just a loser magnet lacking the common sense that God gave a sack of gutter spikes.
Perhaps these women should stop sleeping with gang-bangers and drug dealers? As a clue, men who are violent in their day-to-day lives do not suddenly mellow out when they're with their girlfriends
I think the book's title was Hard Target or something like that.
A friend of mine was sent to the U.S. from a foreign country, in order to be save from a powerful mob, so to speak. I bought her a copy of the book, in order to help her increase her awareness of what is versus what is not a threat.
It's amazing what some women think is a "threat" because of what they've "seen on TV," when on the other hand, a "handsome stranger" is one into whom some women project all kinds of great expectations, instead of being patient and getting to know the guy.
Some women are "at risk" because they are impatient; they want what they want when they want it, but they do not want what they do not want when they do not want it; so they operate, what is in their view, a kind of "green light" / "red light" / "force field" that is supposed to get them what they want.
When what they need to do is know men, now the men in their life (no matter how long or brief), and know the man.
While men should do likewise in their relations with women.
In general, I should say, that all people are dangerous, and it is a mistake to think otherwise, when in the course of everyday life, we should be well-practiced at recognizing what is dangerous, in addition to studying, "Is that actually dangerous to me? What do I do when that is not? What do I do when it may be, or is?
Any time that I enter a turn with some speed on the car, I am prepared for a tire to blow out.
If I am handling a firearm, "it is loaded; period."
I look around the bridge supports when I pass under a bridge.
I look up and examine the sides of buildings that I walk by, lest some outcropping be wobbling and waiting ...
On the south side of Columbus, OH, there is a sniper who has now killed an innocent women --- but I am not going to drive down there to see what's going on.
When I enter a aircraft, I examine all the structure around the hatch, to see how well it is maintained.
I do not assume that the yellow stripe down the center of the road, is going to keep people on the other side from hitting my car.
I do not assume that the badge on a police officer's uniform, is going to keep them from abusing their delegated authority.
I do not assume that the terrorists will bother to come into the airline terminal and wait in line, go through the security checks, etc., in order to board an aircraft ... when they can easily jump the fence around the perimeter of the airfield, and go directly to almost any waiting, full-sized jet-liner.
And I do not assume that the people around me are aware, or that they will react to danger, with timing, training, self-discipline, and courage.
In my humble opinion, you, ladyinred are more aware and more alert than many, and that is one reason why you are here. Because you know that trouble can come more easily, than most want to believe, and you would prefer to be both prepared, as well as on top of matters, as best you can, so that, when possible, you can block. stall, or somehow divert the danger.
I would not underestimate you, and I am fairly certain that you have the grit to be a hard target.
From the article:
"Most attacks occurred around the time that women tried to end the relationship."
Most of these people are looking for Conan and when they find him they don't like the results.
I agree. Women need to stop trying to change the man their are with and just move on to find the man they are looking for.
Seen it many times, my ex attempted it, but was unsuccessful since my lawyer had described to a "T" what was about to happen.
Once the acusation has been made and charges filed, the women will seldom come clean and admit to the lie. Even after the divorce is final.
Spite in divorce seems to be boundless for women.
One of the really tragic effects of this in my area is the false statistics of spousal abuse create a very questionable picture of the actual problem.
Also know of a woman who works with battered women, and in the middle of a divorce she has accused her husband of all kinds of things that nobody else remembers, and it has caused great pain to their children.
I've told my youngest child that if a suitor starts questioning where you were, who you talked to, checks the mileage on your car, etc., he's bad news. BTW, we've also told her she can't date until she's twenty ;-D
This is fascinating stuff.
It means that 16 out of 30 had a suspicion or other clue.
Yet they stayed put?
Shouldn't the headline read "OVER HALF OF WOMEN IN A RELATIONSHIP ARE CLUELESS"?
PeteFromMontana
Since Oct 27, 2003
Yeah, Pete, why would any conservative post this tripe? Perhaps, you a DU'er on vacation? Perhaps you are trying to stir the pot?
Well, whatever it is, you might want to explain things. Another feature to DU disruptor M.O. is the "hit-and-run" posting as you have seem to have done.
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