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| December 4, 2003
| sweetliberty
Posted on 12/04/2003 3:31:09 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Wampus SC
It's all connected with the messages of Fatima. The messages of Fatima is a call to conversion and penance,
the first and most basic call of the Gospel.
The October 13th ,1917 vision and messages concerns the Sun....remember the Pope and Vatican are holding the 3rd
messages in secret, it was sub pose to be release in 1963
,because only then would it be understood by the last generation by signs from the heavens (sky & space, and the SUN..)Only one true pc of the message came out...which is this...God will release this on earth....
"The Red Dragon falls".......
This is what I feel/think it means.....when a asteriod/comet is entering earth skys it will look like a
Red dragon falling from the sky...Big Fireball....
Here are some of the warnings and signs to look for in these end-times, it says that the true children of the light will see and understand these signs.(the poor)..
For example.....here's another message...Oct,1917
"Many MARRIAGES are not good; they do not please our lord and are not of God"
***** Stop here ****
Look at what MS is showing us, and LOOK at the Church
reaction(s) in St. Petersburg/Clearwater.....NONE !
Bishop Robert Lynch is going to be punish by God for not
defending a SAINT !!!!, and look at the new courts, it dose not matter to them anymore, why? ...The TEN commandments
don't matter anymore to them that judge others....
2nd.....
"Priests must be pure, very pure. They should not busy themselfs with anything except what concerns the Church and SOULS. The disobedience of priests, to their superiors and to the HOLY Father, is very displeasing to Our Lord."
****Okay,hmm?***
If, the Church of Christ (All) and Bishop Robert Lynch of Florida were of the LIGHT, they would of seen this, and defended Terri, and put a stop to this from Day #1, BUT
they are not pure, look at the Boys/priests stories, and Homosexual Bishop.....it's part of the sign...This explains
why...tHE bISHOP of Florida is not defending the children
of the light (GOD), because he (they)(many,not all) are NOT
PURE and of the LIGHT.....
The hands of God is about to be released, the question is
when ?
.
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posted on
12/07/2003 8:35:51 AM PST
by
Orlando
(Fire from the heavens...The Bible)
To: nicmarlo; cyn; sweetliberty; floriduh voter; TaxRelief; Ethan_Allen; cpforlife.org; pc93; ...
Yes,
I think that the writer of this did well in pointing out loopholes in the law.
I am wondering if one of the kids(disabled ones who made cards for Terri) was subject of a custody dispute and the custodial parent was able to get Felos' ilk of doctors to say that child was PVS if their feeding tube could be removed. That is what I'm looking at now. If King can be 'forced' to admit a loophole that 'must' be addressed then that could be the catalyst to have him bring up Wise's bill or some alternative that would eliminate food and hydration as 'extraordinary means'.
The writer of that article already says that persons who are mentally incapicated but in good health are not addressed.
Felos is quite the fanagler!
102
posted on
12/07/2003 8:58:25 AM PST
by
tutstar
(Jesus is the reason for the season! <((--><)
To: tutstar; nicmarlo
That's a very good idea looking at how the law, or loopholes in it might effect the children. Would give them something totally unrelated to Terri to look at. Hard to imagine that they haven't considered this, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Lawmakers overall seem to be pretty clueless of the real world which they manipulate.
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posted on
12/07/2003 9:03:22 AM PST
by
sweetliberty
(Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
To: sweetliberty
Well, actually it was the aide's reaction to the story that the Lord has repeatedly brought back to my mind. This morning is when it clarified in my mind, it is all the LORD's doing. Maybe it will lead somewhere positive, all I know at this point is that I have to check into it. I know of someone who can definitely help with this, please pray I will run into him tonight.
104
posted on
12/07/2003 9:14:46 AM PST
by
tutstar
(Jesus is the reason for the season! <((--><)
To: terrasol
Update on Pinellas County Schoolboard action against
the disabled teacher who spoke out in favor of Terri.
Why are these School Board people going to such a
length eliminating one crippled teacher? What layer
of the Felos network felt threatened by the TV interview
she gave, in which she presented the viewpoint of a
disabled woman about what was happening to Terri?
The way the Pinellas County School Board is handling its
attack on Rus Cooper-Dowda is quite reminiscent of the
proceedings over which the Honorable George W. Greer
precided, biased, underhanded and clearly agenda-driven.
I am forwarding an excerpt from Rus's email this
morning:
Remember I was fired for speaking out about Terri while
still recovering from that student attack the school knew
was coming but would not help me prevent?
Well --
The day before Thanksgiving I was denied worker's comp for
that injury because the school said the assault (attacking
a public school teacher: a 3rd degree felony in Florida)
accounts were inconclusive.
That turned out to mean the student said he didn't do it.
So the official stance is that the unprevented and long
promised attack didn't really happen.
But the student was punished for it and that
acknowledgement of the attack is part of his permanent
record. One copy is in his file. I have one copy as his
teacher and case manager.
So here's the news I just uncovered:
It was also reported as teacher battery by the school
police officer to the St. Petersburg, Florida police
department one week after it happened. There is even a
report number.
So an unprevented planned attack with 2 separate permanent
school system reports and 1 city police report officially
didn't happen.
This is getting curiouser and curiouser all the time.
Rus
105
posted on
12/07/2003 9:43:59 AM PST
by
terrasol
(The fool is not who does not know, but who gives up a chance to grow)
To: pickyourpoison
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To: sweetliberty
107
posted on
12/08/2003 8:48:34 AM PST
by
Coleus
(Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
To: All
New poll being conducted in Florida.
Here's the question, and % results as of 12:00pm,est..
*** How do you feel about "Terri Law"? ***
13.6% ....I think it's GOOD idea. Terri's parents are right.
79.8% ... I think it's a bad idea. Micheal Schiavo is Right.
1.2% ... I have no opinion either way.
5.3% ... I say let the courts decide,etc...
total votes....... 243
http://www.floridatoday.com/topstories/120803schiavo.htm Micheal is winning by 79.8%
108
posted on
12/08/2003 9:22:27 AM PST
by
Orlando
To: sweetliberty; tutstar; nicmarlo; terrasol; pickyourpoison; cyn; floriduh voter; TaxRelief; ...
109
posted on
12/08/2003 10:58:42 AM PST
by
nickcarraway
(www.terrisfight.org)
To: tutstar
Thought you'd find this interesting:
I have been mentioning the Terri Schiavo case to my 12-year-old daughter, as part of our overall discussions on issues she'll be facing growing up (ie new things we never had to even think about when we were that age, like euthanasia, humamn cloning, etc).
She mentioned to me yesterday that she types stuff on an Internet discussion list of mostly English-speaking young women and girls around the world like Australia and Ireland, and has been presenting some of the arguments about this and other issues. She has gotten some real nice feedback that her arguments are well thought out, and I don't believe anyone has had occasion to come out and say Terri should just die, like you keep hearing these judges and politicians saying.
It would be interesting to get an idea of how things are going in this regard on other lists. I only have time to check out FreeRepublic myself.
To: nickcarraway
There was lots of polls. Many in Terri's favor. The news media makes a big deal out of the poll in MS's favor.
To: nickcarraway
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posted on
12/08/2003 2:36:55 PM PST
by
pc93
(Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
To: daylate-dollarshort
Miami Herald Posted on Sun, Dec. 07, 2003
Terri Schiavo is sustained only by politics
All the political grandstanding hasn't changed the gruesome truth. There's no hope for Terri Schiavo.
Her new court-appointed guardian ad litem spent a month studying her medical records and court documents. He talked to nurses and doctors. He questioned medical, legal and bioethical experts. And religious scholars. He talked to family members. He spent time nearly every day at the bedside of the depleted woman at the center of Florida's right-to-die controversy.
He found nothing in her perpetual, mindless repose that offered hope.
Guardian Jay Wolfson reported this week that, ``Highly competent, scientifically based physicians using recognized measures and standards have deduced, within a high degree of medical certainty, that Terri is in a persistent vegetative state.''
She has no intellectual capacity. No hope of recovery. Neurological tests and brain scans, Wolfson noted, ``indicate that Terri's cerebral cortex is principally liquid, having shrunken due to the severe anoxic trauma experienced thirteen years ago.''
On Feb. 25, 1990, Terri suffered a heart attack. A loss of oxygen to her brain caused a permanent loss of cognitive function. After several years of failed efforts to revive his wife, her husband, Michael, surrendered to the inevitable. ''It had taken Michael more than three years to accommodate this reality and he was beginning to accept the idea of allowing Terri to die naturally rather than remain in the non-cognitive, vegetative state,'' Wolfson wrote in his report to the governor.
BITTER COURT FIGHT
But that decision, which the husband said followed his wife's wishes, set off a bitter feud and court fight with Terri's parents and siblings. They have been absolutely opposed to any decision to disconnect the feeding tube. The guardian noted that during the years-long legal struggle, the Schindlers ''voiced the disturbing belief that they would keep Terri alive at any and all costs.'' Even if that required amputation of her limbs or open-heart surgery.
``As part of the hypothetical presented, Schindler family members stated that even if Terri had told them of her intention to have artificial nutrition withdrawn, they would not do it.''
The feeding tube was finally removed in October. But the Legislature, urged on by the governor and religious fundamentalists, intervened. The tube was reinserted. A guardian was appointed to represent Terri.
But Wolfson's investigation offered no hope. The University of South Florida professor tried to elicit some response from Terri himself. He spent time with her parents, who similarly tried to demonstrate awareness in their daughter. Nothing happened.
Wolfson's report only mirrored the findings of so many judges who had considered this awful case for years. He had discovered nothing new.
CONTROVERSIAL LAW
Of course, the governor, before leaping into this painful, familial fight, easily could have read the same records. The legislators, before passing such controversial legislation, could have first considered opinions of the same experts. Scientific testimony would have led them to the same sad, inescapable conclusion that Terri Schiavo is beyond hope.
But scientific reality didn't matter. The governor and legislators were indulging in anti-science, like medieval potentates, hauling Terri into a political forum to appease their ignorant zealots.
Wolfson gently suggested that the governor and the warring factions agree to a compromise. If Terri can eat or drink and swallow on her own, then she would be sustained. Otherwise, the tube would be disconnected and she would be allowed to die (too late, I'm afraid, to die with dignity).
Of course, the governor won't agree. He and his Dark Ages allies already know that Terri Schiavo can't eat or drink or swallow on her own.
They know that she is beyond medical help -- the only thing sustaining her depleted life is a gruesome, intrusive, very medieval kind of politics.
To: daylate-dollarshort
To: daylate-dollarshort
puppet.
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posted on
12/08/2003 3:03:01 PM PST
by
pc93
(Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
To: daylate-dollarshort
you play well into the hands of michael/felos and co.
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posted on
12/08/2003 3:03:25 PM PST
by
pc93
(Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
To: daylate-dollarshort
Of course, the governor, before leaping into this painful, familial fight, easily could have read the same records. Many of the records that need to be examined are not open to the general public. How could the governor examine them?
117
posted on
12/08/2003 5:27:44 PM PST
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
To: terrasol; All
Terrasol, please adise Rus to get an attorney - even the typical ambulance chaser would be able to win her a settlement. Make sure she preserves those police reports in both files - the school might try to make them disappear. Also, she should seek legal help outside Pinellas County if at all possible.
Wish her luck for me.
118
posted on
12/08/2003 5:53:46 PM PST
by
msmagoo
To: Orlando; All
119
posted on
12/08/2003 5:56:20 PM PST
by
msmagoo
To: msmagoo
Polls can be manipulated in various ways. One of them is to ask questions a certain way from uninformed or misinformed people. Many years ago I once came across a poll where the pollster first provide bias data, then asked questions. In Terri's case many people have been exposed to wrong or misleading data.
Just like Felos claims to be Greek Orthodox (a claim rejected by some posters), so Michael Schiavo's supporters emphasize his Lutheran background and his belief in God. True or not, it does not change the fact that they are trying to kill an innocent woman in a sadistic way and cause pain for her parents.
120
posted on
12/08/2003 6:05:11 PM PST
by
Dante3
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