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To: AAABEST
Again, I do not see anything in the First Amendment that states Islam is not covered under the part about "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;".

I'm pretty sure the Japanese-Americans who were tossed into internment camps were all enemies of the United States, too.
42 posted on 12/09/2003 7:51:48 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: hchutch
I'm not arguing with your point about freedom of religion, it's actually a pretty good one.

The fact remains however that if he's praying to the East 3 times a day he simply can't be trusted.
45 posted on 12/09/2003 8:13:53 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: hchutch
Again, I do not see anything in the First Amendment that states Islam is not covered under the part about "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;".

Recently there has been certainly one case, perhaps several, where a "religion" was deemed illegal (animal sacrifices, etc.) and not subject to Constitutional protection.

To me, islam satisfies all the requirements to be treated in identically the same manner. That no exceptions are possible is simply not true.

93 posted on 12/09/2003 11:15:49 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: hchutch
Exactly, and the goal of the Islamist the Norquist has exclusively trafficked with, is to establish Sunni wahhabist Islam A) in US Islam, b) in the US, c) in the world. They are very open about this. Some of the leaders in Gaffney's article have said they want to see Islam as the only religion in America, that they expect that in their lifetime, and that they "would like to see America become an Islamic state." That is a violation of the Constitution you archly cite.

The Islamists, when they get into the White House and cabinet agency meetings demand this exclusive franchise, starting with things like the Prison and Military chaplains programs, etc. They dress this up in the language of the civil rights mau-mau, and Norquist tells everyone that they are the 'right' or 'only' Muslims -- and that anyone who points out the problem is a "racist and a bigot"

So, as the Sauds send them here and fund them to do, they are trying to define and control, including with US Govt. support and fiat, Islam in America. And Grover is their agent in this. Hell of a thing for a Libertarian troll to be extolling and enabling. And that is the complaint.

Now, does Grover do this because he has made a study of Islam and is well acquainted with its many schools of law and interpretation, its sects, e.g., Sunni, Shia, Sufi, and the Barlevis, Deobandis, etc. NO! Ask him sometime. He is defiantly insisting on these particular groups, and still now defending their right and need to be there, with a PC vengance for some specific reason. Could be money, could be a lot of things; Who Cares?!? The point is it's deadly dangerous and has to stop.
263 posted on 12/11/2003 12:24:57 AM PST by Trollstomper (Trollstomper)
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