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Analysis: Saddam's capture boosts Bush
UPI ^ | Dec. 14, 2003 | Martin Sieff

Posted on 12/14/2003 4:19:03 PM PST by FairOpinion

WASHINGTON, Dec. 14 (UPI) -- The dramatic capture of Saddam Hussein gives an enormous personal boost to President George W. Bush but, ironically, it may not change next year's presidential race at all.

That is in part because the president already enjoyed a commanding lead in the polls over his most likely Democratic challenger, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean. But also because the capture of Saddam, while dramatic and emotionally satisfying, does not change the basic dynamics of the president's political position.

Were the election to be held today, Bush would sweep home in a landslide. Recent polls have shown him leading Dean by up to 11 percentage points, as much as 52 percent to 41 percent. The two main areas where the president may be vulnerable are a dramatic economic crisis stemming from his administration's financial policies before next November or a sweeping increase in U.S. casualties, especially fatalities in Iraq.

Both those considerations look unlikely at the moment and if neither of them occurs, the president is probably home clean. However, if either of them hits hard, especially on the domestic economic front, then no capture, trial or even execution of Saddam is likely to make any difference whatsoever.

The one area where Saddam's capture may really boost the president domestically is if it leads to a dramatic falling off in guerrilla attacks inflicting casualties on U.S. troops in Iraq. If the Iraqi guerrilla resistance is indeed tightly centrally directed and run by Saddam loyalists, this will probably happen very fast.

However, if, on the contrary, the resistance is decentralized and reflects widespread genuine anti-American and anti-Western sentiments, and if al-Qaida type Islamic extremists are motivating a significant section of it, then that is far less likely. Either way, we are likely to see soon.

Already, Conventional Wisdom is stating that Saddam's capture is likely to validate and strengthen those Democrats who voted for the crucial war resolution in Congress: Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts, John Edwards of North Carolina and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, and Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri. But in practice, the opposite is likely to be the case.

For sentiment against the war and against Bush's policies are now so intensely and generally felt among the Democratic grassroots that a single event like the capture of Saddam, dramatic though it is, will not change it. Indeed, it is precisely the campaigns of these four leading congressional Democrats that have been foundering disastrously up to this point.

Therefore, even if the capture of Saddam revives sentiments among pro-war Democrats, they are far more likely to throw their support to former Gen. Wesley Clark, who, while losing ground to the surging Dean, has been presenting himself precisely as the one Dem candidate most capable of blasting Bush on national security and defense issues.

And Clark's central premise, which he hammers home repeatedly, has not been invalidated or discredited to the slightest degree by the capture of Saddam. That is his contention that in their Iraq obsession, the Bush team have disastrously neglected the primary goals of U.S. domestic homeland security and the war against al-Qaida and its associated groups.

Lieberman Sunday lost no time in jumping on the issue in a last-ditch effort to jump-start his collapsing campaign before it implodes in New Hampshire, where polls show him trailing badly in the Jan. 27 primary. "If Howard Dean had his way, Saddam Hussein would still be in power today, not in prison and the world would be a more dangerous place," he said.

But, ironically, in contrast to Clark, a very recent convert to the Democrats, such comments may make Lieberman come across as a disloyal figure in party terms, repeating a classic Bush and GOP line. In that case his attempt to capitalize on Saddam's capture may just rebound and dig him even deeper in his hole.

The key dynamic to watch in upcoming polls among potential Democratic primary voters is whether Saddam's capture reverses the recent pattern in the West and even the South for them to start defecting from Clark to Dean. If they do, the upcoming primary season could see a real race yet.

And if guerrilla resistance in Iraq should get seriously worse rather than better in the next few months, or if al-Qaida should manage to pull off another major terror attack against the domestic United States on a "9/11" scale or even worse, then the capture of Saddam could even have a backlash effect against the president for focusing so obsessively on him while the real threats were coming from elsewhere.

Indeed, from a political point of view, Saddam's capture, vastly welcome though it is, came 10 or 11 months too early for Bush. By the time the election comes around it may be ancient history compared with the crises he will be facing and the issues he will be debating. A week, as late British Prime Minister Harold Wilson liked to say, is a long time in politics.

Still, Saddam's capture has made this a dream week for the president. Master-tactician that he is, he will make the most of it.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; saddam; viceisclosed
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To: Cultural Jihad
W does what's right and the rest takes care of itself. At the end of his terms he will have changed the world,
improving; the Supreme Court and judiciary branch,
the House,
the Senate,
the cess pool Mid-East,
health care(?),
social security,
the economy,
AND reduced the Democrat party to irrelevance...

He'll give RR a run for best Prez ever, imho.

21 posted on 12/14/2003 4:54:57 PM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: putupon
The Dems are so proud of you!

I think you should read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038145/posts

Enough With The Neocon And Paleocon Carping—I'll Stand With George W. Bush In 2004

Rather than fantasize about an ideal future, conservatives need to think about how things can, and will, get devastatingly worse, should Bush lose. Be it Dean or Kerry or whatever burrito they decide to roll out of the Taqueria next summer, the fate of the country will be in jeopardy. By this time in 2006, there will be a foreign policy coward in every pot and a benefit check in the hands of every college drop out. Think France, think Germany, and then be grateful we have a president who doesn't spit after saying "tax cuts."

I don´t care if you insult him or trade in Karl Rove conspiracy theories, but, in November of 2004, this particular rightist is going to stand by George W. Bush just as the bumper sticker on my car promises. Our hopes for a better tomorrow rest in the White House on his bed. We must support him because heady days await and also because his reelection keeps the Democrat Party headless. Let´s proudly stand by our man as he loudly subsumes the popular positions of the left while promoting many of ours in the shadows though his judges, appointees, and minions.


22 posted on 12/14/2003 4:55:38 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Sans-Culotte
BTW, I seem to remember Jimmah Cawtah syaing "nyooc-you-lar" as well.

Yes, Sans, he certainly did... and HE was a nyookyoular engineer!

23 posted on 12/14/2003 4:56:50 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: FairOpinion
The big loser in all this is Saddam.

That was pretty analytical. Can I be a news analyst now...please?

24 posted on 12/14/2003 4:57:20 PM PST by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: putupon

Another Johnny-One-Note chimes in.
25 posted on 12/14/2003 5:03:12 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: putupon
Nobody's perfect. Nobody gets anything good done without some compromise. Your 16% expansion is largely for homeland securiy and it's keeping your underserving ass alive! He's slowed discretionary spending under impossible circumstances.

Howard Dean is your man. Is it OK to say YOU PISS ME OFF.

26 posted on 12/14/2003 5:04:21 PM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: chiller
Some of these knuckle-draggers will never be happy until women and children are machine-gunned at the border. According to their definition, a 'socialist' is one who refuses to pull the trigger.
27 posted on 12/14/2003 5:06:56 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: wolf24
...and the story contradicts the headline.....but it's the Rats talking, so no surprise...
29 posted on 12/14/2003 5:12:21 PM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: FairOpinion
Rather than fantasize about an ideal future, conservatives need to think about how things can, and will, get devastatingly worse, should Bush lose. Be it Dean or Kerry or whatever burrito they decide to roll out of the Taqueria next summer,

Bush gets the vote from the base and he knows it, by default. Being taken for granted, Dubya's chump, who gave him time and money, that is what's infuriating.

Forget Dean, Forget Kerry, forget worrying about losing any of the sold Republicans' vote (given the current selection), it's the moderate, non-party, vote 'Rat by habit people you need to worry about; no telling who they will vote for, or for how long they will stay with us, despite Jorge's sellout.

I just posted this on another thread:

Prediction:

Saddam capture kills far left DimRAT control; Dean is toast.

More practical 'Rats will give Lieberman the nomination (Algore, as usual, does the wrong thing at the wrong time).

You heard it here first.

The damage Bush has done makes me sick, killing free speech, I just can't believe he did that.

31 posted on 12/14/2003 5:15:14 PM PST by putupon ("Borders? We don' need no steenkin' borders!"-Presidente Jorge Dubya Arbusto)
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To: FairOpinion
I dont get it..How is a dumb guy so sccessful?
32 posted on 12/14/2003 5:22:57 PM PST by woofie
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To: chiller
compromise.

Killing the Constitution is compromise? Socialized medicine is compromise? Free citizenship to all Mexicans is compromise?

How good is Jorge going to look as soon as one those terrorists that crosses over from south pulls a homocide bombing in a shopping center?

Beatings, rapes, murders, robberies, welfare support with our hard earned money, the current result of Jorge's open borders are OK because it's a RINO's policy?

Dare to disagree with the above and you're Neocon Dean supporter? Puh-leeze

Is it OK to say YOU PISS ME OFF.

OK? OK and appreciated. I love rattling Bushbot cages!

33 posted on 12/14/2003 5:26:36 PM PST by putupon ("Borders? We don' need no steenkin' borders!"-Presidente Jorge Dubya Arbusto)
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To: FairOpinion
The day wouldn't be complete without getting the Marxist point of view from UPI.
34 posted on 12/14/2003 5:28:46 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: putupon
W called CFR unconstitutional before making the mistake of signing. He knows it must be corrected.

Did I miss the other story about citizenship for aliens.

I assume you prefer to stick with the current Medicare program. The new one sucks too, but at least it has potential. In the process, W has co-opted the Dems and will regain the judiciary because of it. Of all issues, this one affects all others.

35 posted on 12/14/2003 5:38:19 PM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: chiller
Did I miss the other story about citizenship for aliens.

It would appear that you have. Look here

Plenty other threads besides that one,too.

He knows it must be corrected.

And just how is going to do do that now that SCOTUS has rewritten the Constitution?

And why did he sign it if he knew it was unconstitutional?

And is that not a violation of his oath of office to "protect and defend th Constitution?"

36 posted on 12/14/2003 5:57:04 PM PST by putupon ("Borders? We don' need no steenkin' borders!"-Presidente Jorge Dubya Arbusto)
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To: FairOpinion
Bad Santa sez
"We can't all be winners, now can we kid!"


37 posted on 12/14/2003 6:07:50 PM PST by Vidi_Vici_Vinnny (An armed man is a Citizen. An unarmed man is a Subject.)
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To: FairOpinion
People will understand that President Bush has accomplished more in three years than Clinton did in eight years. The timing isn't bad for him at all. Steady successes over time will be more valuable than any October surprise next year. In October of next year, we will still be reaping the benefits of this capture. Those benefits will help the president with some key swing voters.

Race and Mediocrity in Louisiana
Bill

38 posted on 12/14/2003 6:09:23 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: putupon
"1. Left the borders wide open, for both lawn care specialists and terrorists alike.
2. Proposed amnesty for illegal aliens."

Man, you must hate to see good things happen for our nation today. Ya just gotta inject a little pessimism, don'tcha?!

Oh, btw:President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens
S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003.
It extends for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.

39 posted on 12/14/2003 6:15:59 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: putupon
"3. Propelled us down the road to fully socialized HillaryCare medicine with his Marxist pill policies."

Oh man, if Bush's Medicare privatization options (no fewer than 6 of them) bother you so much, then I can't wait to hear you squeal in agony when we Privatize Social Security next.

40 posted on 12/14/2003 6:18:44 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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