Rumbling on the Hard-Right

The Washington Times ^ | December 30, 2003 | Stephen Dinan

[GunsareOK]

President Bush is beginning to anger certain hard-line conservatives, particularly over fiscal issues, the way his father did in the year before he lost to Bill Clinton in 1992.

It's not clear how deep the dissatisfaction goes, and whether it will translate to damage at the polls in November.

[luckydevi]

The growth of government is a threat to capitalism and liberty.

Being anti-left doesn't make one a conservative.

[!1776!]

If Bush caves on AWB, screw him.

So you are willing to give up even more ground on Second Amendment Rights under a different Administration?

You do know that Congress has to pass the AWB before it goes to the President for signature don't you? Why should they get a pass on doing their job (since they are your most direct representatives in government)?

One issue wonder - where will RKBA be under Dean?

[pfflier]

Who would you vote for if Dean or Nader were the alternatives? Or would you just stay home and do nothing?

[Texas_Dawg]

It doesn't matter what you call people. Voters are just plain voters

OK. That's fine. But I was just letting you know they aren't exactly conservative then (for what it's worth). Everyone has their own unique situations and peer groups but the most historically reliable polls show Bush is doing very well. We have a long way to go, but if you believe the economy and Iraq will continue to improve, coupled with some less-noted major demographics changes happening in this country right now (the boom in evangelical Christianity, the increasingly conservative shift in the Hispanic crowds as they become wealthier and more integrated into America, etc.), then you will believe, like I have been saying since back in the "darkest" days of Summer '03 (Niger uranium fiasco, WMDs questions, weak stock market, rising unemployment, beginning of the Iraqi "resistance", etc)... that GWB will win in a landslide. And he will.

[StoneColdGOP]

He shant receive my vote either.

I supported him hoping he'd defend us against the illegal alien invasion. He has not. In fact he seeks to grant AMNESTY.

I supported him because I thought he had a respect for the Constitution and the rule of LAW, especially after the post-election madness. His signature upon the Patriot Act and it's follow-up tell me otherwise.

I supported him trusting he'd protect the American economy and jobs. Instead he bends towards globalism, "free markets" with unfree nations which siphon off our jobs and businesses.

I supported him with the knowledge that's he'd truly prosecute a war on terror and spare no enemy or their ally from our sword. But his lack of action towards the oil sheiks and chief terror sponsors of Saudi Arabia shows me the truth.

I supported him assured that he'd be a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment, the one which protects all others. But instead he signals willingness to sign a reauthorized "Assault Weapons" Ban.

And I supported him thinking that, least of all, he'd adhere to the most very basic of Republican tenets: small government and reduced spending. And what have we? A spender and propagator of government the likes of which would make FDR proud.

No, he won't be getting my vote.

[Who is John Galt?]

It has been said that 'those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.' The first President Bush assumed that gun owners would support him, even if he actively promoted 'gun control.' The first President Bush was proven wrong. Let's see whether the second President Bush learns from history...

;>)

[hchutch]

Furthermore, Bush is going to leave the GOP much stronger and it will make it easier to solve other problems in a manner that will be much easier. There is something to be said for his approach as well.

He's put a much better face on conservatism that we've had since Ronald Reagan. And he'll be as well-loved. That's going to pay dividends down the road as well.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

"Your FR handle is hilariously ironic."

If you check my posting record since July, you will see that this statement is absurd.

I have read your GOP-bot posts since July.

You are a GOP-bot because this admin is a godsend for your personal wealth. Every position you take has this at its root. If you want to be an ideological slave to wealth, and screw the future generations of this nation, that is your call.

But count me out.

[JohnnyZ]

Yes I'm voting for Bush. But no, he's not a conservative in any fiscal sense.

Absolutely false: Taxes. He cut them.

Maybe you think taxes will just go up in the future (yeah 'cause THAT's real popular and easy politically), but low taxes are a restraint on government spending and frame the debate as: higher taxes or lower spending?, a PR choice which we win; lowering the tax rate has already won future budget battles for conservatives to an extent you obviously do not comprehend.

So you should like Bush even more than you do.

[Texas_Dawg]

If YOU were truly a conservative you'd have a clue.

I'm as conservative as can be. So is GWB. 4 more years of this and he will go down as one of the most succesful and conservative Presidents we have ever had. Reagan was possibly more conservative, but other than that, GWB is one of the most conservative Presidents we've ever had. Only the FRinge right, angry, socialist misanthropes are unhappy with him. But they are statistically insignificant and need to be routed out of the GOP anyway.

[!1776!]

As far as the Presidency goes

I have been looking for those words for a while. Congress shall make no law...

If people would start to understand that we have a President, not a king, and that laws originate with the Congress, maybe they could figure out how to win the war they are willing to sell out for a battle.

[ModernDayCato]

Come an' git me...I'm not voting for him either, and they don't get much more hard line than me.

[hawk1]

Why wait? He should announce it before the election. Plenty of votes to be had.

[goodnesswins]

YES.....I agree....I HOPE he has learned....and I also am watching to see what he does with a number of issues, but I'll be damned if I'll THROW away MY VOTE because he isn't a perfect conservative.

[Xenalyte]

Jeez, who died and made you the Namer of All True Conservatives?

[pogo101]

I'm one of the "hard-line conservatives" who won't be voting for Bush.

Bear one thing in mind that if enough people vote as you do and the Democratic nominee wins -- recall what the Florida Nader vote did, in 2000 -- then Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton will be picking Supreme Court and other federal judges who will serve for DECADES. So even if, in 2008 or beyond, a more fitting-to-you conservative were to be elected, he or she would be saddled with left-wing courts that mandate more and more spending and taxes.

[Texas_Dawg]

You are a GOP-bot because this admin is a godsend for your personal wealth.

As you have stated in this post, you will be doing zero to wage war against liberals in the most important political event of 2004. Hilarious handle.

I am a GOP-bot because it is the only defender of American conservatism, as far as political parties go, in existence. I'm also an American capitalist and not a FRinge socialist like you and Pat Buchanan.

[Wild Irish Rogue]

" I supported him hoping he'd defend us against the illegal alien invasion. He has not. In fact he seeks to grant AMNESTY."

Ok,I'll try with you-Where and when has President Bush ever said he supported amnesty for illegals ??

[RinaseaofDs]

Right. Good point.

[!1776!]

In other words, in '94 one out of every five actual voters was a gun owner voting Republican - and 'Dubyah' has announced that he is prepared to piss on their constitutional rights...

One issue wonder - how will our (NRA here also) RKBA be reclaimed under a Democrat President?

Just curious.