[Lead Moderator]

No, probably not wrong to feel that way, although I think you are missing what went down here. It wasn't that post which got the dude nuked. It was all of his posts, taken together. It was clear from them taken in aggregate that he was here to troll (I particularly liked the post which denounced any claim the founding of the US had to liberty to be null and void because slavery existed- I guess we need to repudiate all the wisdom of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle as well).

When a newbie is trolling, they get nuked. It removes all of their posts. And looking at the Abuse log, I see that the post you are mentioning wasn't one of the ones the moderator listed as evidence of the trolling.

[Mears]

As a 71 year old woman who "discovered" FR in November of 2002 it has been a life saver.

I feel much more informed on everything than I did before FR and living in ultra-liberal Newton,MA I often wondered if anyone out there thought like I do. Through this site I find that there are many of us.

My small donations to FR won't make anyone rich but the hours of pleasure and insight that I've gained from FR have been very important to me.I consider the money well spent.

Thanks to all at FR and Happy New Year.

Mears

[Ichneumon]

Thanks for the info. Out of curiosity, is he giving the full picture? I'm wondering about "the rest of the story":

1. Were the sentences he quoted the *entire* replies he made, or in his blast did he "happen to" leave out the more inflammatory parts of his posts?

2. Did he make more than just the three posts he admits to, or did he "forget" to mention others that might not have been more obnoxious?

3. When he whines that each of his posts was removed "within minutes", he neglects to say whether they were made and removed at separate times, or whether (as I suspect) he made them all in a shotgun approach and then he and his posts were all removed at the same time shortly thereafter.

The answers don't matter when it comes to helping me decide whether he should have been removed -- what is known already was sufficient grounds for considering him a troll, and his own confession only confirms that the moderators were dead-on -- but if he has "shaded" the events in his favor his omissions should be exposed.

[optimistically_conservative]

Since we (more specifically, I) don't have access to the totality of the comments posted, I cannot question your decision identifying him as a troll.

But I do agree with his criticism that his comments did not run afoul of the posting constraints.

I'm left wondering why not ban the account and leave the posts?

I have found posters I consider to the right and left of my views on this forum, sometimes varying given the topic being discussed (foreign policy, economics, social policy, etc.). I enjoy the exchange in all cases, including those that engage in fallacious argument.

For that I thank FR.

[Darksheare]

When you guys Zot someone and his posts disappear, can the Mods still see his posts and the content of them?

[AQGeiger]

For the sake of those rather new to FR (I originally signed up years ago but never really participated on the site until I rediscovered it last week), what does it mean to be nuked, and how is that different from being banned or zotted? I read the Free Republic lexicon but it didn't have any info on this. Thanks on behalf of all the new folks....

[Republican Wildcat]

Exactly as I suspected. Thanks for the info.

[kitkat]

***It was clear from them taken in aggregate that he was here to troll (I particularly liked the post which denounced any claim the founding of the US had to liberty to be null and void because slavery existed- I guess we need to repudiate all the wisdom of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle as well).***

ZOUNDS! I LOVE it! What a reply.

[chicagolady]

THIS IS THE FREEP MAIL I RECEIVED FROM BEING ON THE IMMIGRATION PING LIST. I HAVE TRIED TO OBTAIN HELP, AND GET THIS GUY CHECKED OUT BECAUSE OF THE VULGARITY AND HAVE NEVER RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE.

CAN SOMEONE, LIKE THE LEAD MODERATOR HELP ME OUT??????



Re: Immigrants fear repeal of driver's license law
From _1_mexican_man_ | 12/12/2003 6:16:09 PM CST replied




thats fucked up you think that!
are you racist or something.hom would you like to run away from your home land, because times are hard, and then go the,"land of the free",and then find out that it was all faules advertisment. its not the land of the free it is the land of the stuck up white people who tax the hell out of all the poor people and get away with it because they have more money then they do! and now that they are considered out casts in america, cant get a license, and still pay taxes not to metion its hard to get a job for them. you fucking retard think about bothe sides of the story.

love-
wouldnt you like to know