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Globalists Destroying America
News Max.com ^ | Saturday, Jan. 10, 2004 | Diane Alden

Posted on 01/09/2004 11:21:37 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING

Globalists Destroying America Diane Alden Saturday, Jan. 10, 2004 In the next century, nations as we know [them] will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all. – Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's deputy secretary of state, as quoted in Time, July 20, l992

The Washington Post reported on Dec. 19, 2003: "Lobbyists working with the White House said Bush is developing a plan that would allow immigrants to cross the border legally if jobs are waiting for them. The sources said the administration also wants to provide a way for some undocumented workers in the United States to move toward legal status.

Furthermore, Bush said at his year-end news conference last week that he was preparing to send Congress recommendations for an "immigration policy that helps match any willing employer with any willing employee." He said he is "firmly against blanket amnesty" or a mass legalization.

An estimated 8 million undocumented people live in the United States. At least half of them are Mexican, authorities have said.

The blanket amnesty is based on the notion that this will "help" immigrants, the economy and our relations with Mexico. It will allow Mexican workers to come and go across the border so they will not feel they must either stay in the U.S. forever lest they be caught and sent back.

The Bush administration points to how "well" the bracero worker program operated in the '40s, '50s and early '60s. In fact, it did not work well at all.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: aliens; braceroprogram; globalism; globalists; illegalaliens
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To: chronic_loser
Illegals use billions of tax dollars every year in health, education and welfare. Even the liberal L.A. Times has reported factually on the devastation brought on by the enormous influx of illegals.
Beyond the costs, we are a nation of laws, even before the American Revolution.
If you look a little more closely at previous waves of immigration you will see that they were all LEGAL. Many who wanted to reach America were not allowed; starting with the early Protestants fleeing persecution from europe's Catholics, to those later waves that landed on Ellis Island.
Victor Davis Hanson, a fifth generation Californian, is an academic with a very good understanding of the illegal immigration problems. He has said that he doesn't really care what color America becomes, but that when so many come so quickly they cannot assimilate into our culture. Instead they become a subculture within our culture.

The Constitution grants power to regulate commerce to Congress. They are failing to protect our nation from the illegal dumping of goods by Communist China and other bad trade policy decisions. In a perfect world, free trade would work. In our world, nations manipulate the market and the goal must be fair trade. Our gigantic trade deficit with the largest communist nation is indication that Congress and the Bush administration need to make some changes to our trade policies.

I think the only letter we need to send the White House and Congress starts out like this:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "
21 posted on 01/10/2004 5:20:22 AM PST by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: sawyer
Paul Craig Roberts was an assistant secretary of the treasury under the late Donald T. Regan (whom he still defends) in the Reagan administration. Of course, the loyal Reaganites turned against Regan, who was the only member of the administration to my knowledge who ever stood up to Nancy Reagan! Roberts is highly critical of the globalists and shares philosophy with such leaders as Rep. Ron Paul, R-TX.
22 posted on 01/10/2004 9:28:41 AM PST by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: chronic_loser
If you really believe in what you write, I have bridge to sell you. On the other hand, you suck as a salesman.
23 posted on 01/10/2004 12:30:18 PM PST by singsong (Jesus the Saviour!)
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To: Klickitat
This would make a wonderful thread on its own. Please, consider it.
24 posted on 01/10/2004 12:32:56 PM PST by singsong (Jesus the Saviour!)
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To: Theodore R.
I did find Robert's take on the jobs sort of interesting. I really had not known that service jobs were leaving this country until 2003. I think we may need some new thinkers in on this as we do not seem to be fixing it with just trade groups.This is all very new and looks like a good thing to study. This is doing an awful job on our workers.
25 posted on 01/10/2004 2:53:30 PM PST by sawyer
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Judge Sets Dates for Lawsuit Against FEC-Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 31
26 posted on 01/10/2004 3:06:31 PM PST by The_Eaglet (http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Furthermore, Bush said at his year-end news conference last week that he was preparing to send Congress recommendations for an "immigration policy that helps match any willing employer with any willing employee."

We have later learned that this includes lawbreakers.

27 posted on 01/10/2004 3:15:09 PM PST by The_Eaglet (http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: Klickitat
Thanks for the post. It is loaded with information that needs to be disseminated.

I have myself posted information about mechanization of harvesting. Your post is correct, there are harvesting machines in storage because it would impact the illegal alien industry.
28 posted on 01/10/2004 3:22:56 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Klickitat
"Mechanical lettuce harvesters were under development in the 1960s. That work was stopped. Today, lettuce is still harvested by hand in the field."

Scarcity creates innovation. Cheap, plentiful, low-IQ workers with low productivity--who needs to innovate?

29 posted on 01/10/2004 3:25:46 PM PST by Trickyguy
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
The article also says,

"Don’t forget that the last time there was immigration “reform,” in 1986, illegals were granted amnesty, the floodgates did not close, and immigrant and lower-class wages did not rise in comparison with those of other groups of Americans. "

Who was it that said that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it?

30 posted on 01/10/2004 4:05:54 PM PST by The_Eaglet (Mike Peroutka for President!)
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To: MissouriForBush
I spent enough time in Hong Kong to know what the future looks like. And some in Indonesia.
31 posted on 01/10/2004 6:49:22 PM PST by Fledermaus (We gave the Saudi terrorist VISAS, let's make them guest workers now also!)
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To: BlackbirdSST
Debt driven recovery is not a recovery, sorry.

Now that is the perfect example of anecdotal.

32 posted on 01/10/2004 6:50:26 PM PST by Fledermaus (We gave the Saudi terrorist VISAS, let's make them guest workers now also!)
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To: The Duke
Oh come on. What salary do you guys think is the norm? $60,000 per individual? $100,000?

A $30,000 starting pay (and if you bothered to READ what I wrote I said that was an AVERAGE), with all the benefits, is nothing to sneeze at. Fifteen an hour to do simple date processing of employee masters and set ups is a good job for someone in their late 20's which most of those hired are.

Geez. People like you think every kid out of college should be making $75,000 a year with a company car, 401(k), full health, dental and eye-care, three weeks vacation, $10,000 year end bonuses, etc. or it's a crap job.
33 posted on 01/10/2004 6:53:48 PM PST by Fledermaus (We gave the Saudi terrorist VISAS, let's make them guest workers now also!)
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To: Fledermaus
With all due respect, Hong Kong may not be the best vantage point.
34 posted on 01/10/2004 11:16:57 PM PST by MissouriForBush
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To: Fledermaus
Hate to have to point this out to you, but my example is a much broader sampling of what's going on out here. My anecdotal evidence measures in the thousand's, as per our number of NEW Clients, than your example that measures by what a dozen or so. I only submit my example as anecdotal, when in fact it is much much more representitive. We are carrying more debt than ever before, and delinquincies are higher than any point in our history. Our business is booming. Blackbird.
35 posted on 01/11/2004 2:25:03 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: chronic_loser; Happy2BMe
"Part of the reason for that has been our willingness to OPEN our borders to those wanting to succeed."

An another part has been our willingness to live by the "rule of law". Remember that phrase? Or are you among the Clintonian supporters who believe that we have a "dynamic" Constitution which needs to be flexible and laws only enforced selectively?

"At the hour of midnight the Salerian gate was silently opened, and the inhabitants were awakened by the tremendous sound of the Gothic trumpet. Eleven hundred and sixty-three years after the foundation of Rome, the Imperial city, which had subdued and civilised so considerable a part of mankind, was delivered to the licentious fury of the tribes of Germany and Scythia." Chapter 31
36 posted on 01/11/2004 6:20:48 AM PST by Beck_isright (After 8 years of Caligula, now we get Nero.)
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To: Beck_isright
"Eleven hundred and sixty-three years after the foundation of Rome, the Imperial city, which had subdued and civilised so considerable a part of mankind, was delivered to the licentious fury of the tribes of Germany and Scythia."

And in the case of illegal immigration and America this aptly applies.

Illegal immigration is posed to accomplish what the combined efforts of Communist Russis, China, and the Democratic Party failed to do: Break the back and sovergnty of the United States of America.

37 posted on 01/11/2004 6:28:49 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: The_Eaglet; ETERNAL WARMING
"Who was it that said that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it?"

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We are overrun by illegal immigration in the United States.

Mexico President to Mexico: MORE – WE’RE GOING FOR MORE!!

Bush's Ridiculous Speech About Immigration Reform

Powerful Letter To President Bush

DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER

Jobs Americans Won't Do: Voodoo Economics from the White House.

Bush admits: "I was wrong about amnesty." (humor)

Illegals Are Destroying America - A Letter To Rep Tom Tancredo

Study: Immigration Biggest Contributor to Sprawl (87% of Growth Attributed to Immigrants)

Bush’s Proposal Amounts To Amnesty For Millions of Illegal Immigrants

Bush: Let Illegals Work in U.S. (But that is not enough say illegals.)

Take the FReeper Poll


38 posted on 01/11/2004 6:31:54 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Fledermaus
I see the lib media jumping over this immigrant bill with a view only to hurt Dubya -- they'dd print anythign to do so. I'm convinced that the only way we can stop Mexican infiltration is by makign sure the Mexican economy grows so that it is not a basket case. it won't have a per capita GDP as high as ours, but high enough to make sure that folks don't feel the need to cross over as they get decent paying jobs in their own country. Similarly, Mexico should help it's poorer southern neighbours. This way, say, if our GDp per cap is $36,000, the Mexicans can be around $20,000 to $15,000 and that would encourage most to stay in their own land. Those who are higher educated/better skilled can come here and earn higher salaries as legal immigrants -- win win situation for us. The loser will be those Americans who are poorly skilled or unskilled. Their jobs will go.
39 posted on 01/11/2004 6:43:16 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: chronic_loser
because WE WANT THE CHEAP LABOR, FOLKS! So, I don't have much patience for the whiners about Bush's new policy here

Well put... You hear so many cribs and yet there are folks that'll shop at Wal mart and then crib that China's selling too much to us. Folks that want a cheap maid servant but, as you say, want to make it illegal for them to get in here. Dubya's a good, god fearing man and if we just ignore the lib media we'd reaslise that he's got a plan -- don't forget that these are the same folks who said we had no plan in Irq or Afgh.
40 posted on 01/11/2004 6:48:30 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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