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Winston-Salem official places Ten Commandments at city hall [Vernon Robinson - Black Conservative]
WCNC ^ | Jan. 19, 2004 | AP Presswire

Posted on 01/19/2004 11:26:29 AM PST by TaxRelief

01/19/2004 Associated Press A city council member placed a granite block bearing the Ten Commandments on a walkway in front of a city hall deserted on Monday's Martin Luther King holiday.

Vernon Robinson, a black conservative who has been on the city council since 1998, said he and four helpers acted on the holiday because the barren adjoining parking lot allowed him to move in a truck and crane to position the one-ton block.

The monument — inscribed on one side with the Ten Commandments and on the other side with the Bill of Rights — was positioned on a landing of the stairway ascending to the 1930s city hall at dawn Monday, Robinson said.

Robinson said he had no permit or other authorization to place the monument on public property.

The $2,000 cost of buying and moving the four- tall, blue-granite block was entirely his own, said Robinson, who is running for a vacant U.S. House seat.

Mayor Allen Joines did not immediately return calls seeking comment on the city's response.

"This display is intended to acknowledge the undeniable role that the Ten Commandments and Bill of Rights have played in developing the American legal tradition," Robinson said in a telephone interview.

"These are the ideas on which society has been built and these works encapsulate the belief system on which the republic was founded."

Robinson said he was inspired to act by former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who ordered a 2 1/2-ton Ten Commandments monument placed in the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building in 2001.

A federal judge found the monument to be an unconstitutional promotion of religion by government in 2002. Moore was removed from office last year for violating ethics rules by not obeying the federal court order to remove the monument.

Robinson said the monument was quarried and cut in Georgia and shipped from there.


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Georgia; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: congress; nc05; ncpolitics; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; roymoore; tencommandments; vernonrobinson
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To: sinkspur
He's a showboater, just like Roy Moore.

And Rosa Parks.

It's a peaceful protest; what did he do wrong, litter?

As far as politics goes, if the people want an attention-getter in Congress, they'll like this, if they don't, they won't. The voting public is the ultimate arbiter, notwithstanding your personal disgust for politicians with principles. (Also, I'm still waiting for Roy Moore's 2004 senate race against Richard Shelby -- some folks GUARANTEED me that was what his stand was all about.)

61 posted on 01/19/2004 1:15:39 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: Rebelbase
As a councilman, Mr. Robinson surely has the right to present an object for consideration by his fellow council members.




The parallel between this and the Schiavo case, concerns the need to generate publicity to support one's advocacy.

When Mr. Robinson went to Florida to support Terri's case, he spent most of the time on the phone drumming up media attention for the Schindler's and for Terri's plight. Why? Because media attention, positive or negative is critical, to the success of a cause.
62 posted on 01/19/2004 1:25:15 PM PST by TaxRelief (P-a-n-t-h-e-r-s, Go Panthers!)
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To: TaxRelief
Robinson said he had no permit or other authorization to place the monument on public property.

If there's anything more tiresome than a showboater, it's an unoriginal showboater.

Hey, Vern: it's been done, OK? And if your role model is that fool in Alabama, you raise real concerns about yourself.

The winner of the North Carolina 5th Congressional District will be decided in the GOP primary. There are better candidates, and better potential Representatives, than Mr. Robinson.

63 posted on 01/19/2004 1:30:54 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (How 'bout those CAROLINA PANTHERS!)
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To: JohnnyZ
Moore's running for Governor in 2006.
64 posted on 01/19/2004 1:32:28 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: TaxRelief
What would you do to try to generate public support for a fight to defend the Bill of Rights?

I wouldn't. They seem to be doing OK.

65 posted on 01/19/2004 1:34:05 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: TaxRelief
I have met Veron Robinson on more than one occassion. I've lived in Winston Salem all my life (except for 7 years in Seattle). He's a man who likes to make a "splash". He's charismatic and commanding in a room, standing about 6'4" and he's not entirely skinny either.

I have to applaud this move! It'll play well in this tobacco & banking town of 180,000 people that largely remains conservative.

66 posted on 01/19/2004 1:41:29 PM PST by RightlySo (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth; socialism is the equal distribution of poverty.)
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To: sinkspur
Moore's running for Governor in 2006.

When one prediction fails, move on to the next one!

67 posted on 01/19/2004 1:41:53 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: southernnorthcarolina
There are better candidates, and better potential Representatives, than Mr. Robinson.

Who do you like?

68 posted on 01/19/2004 1:42:32 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: JohnnyZ
I never said he was running for Senate. He can't beat Shelby.
69 posted on 01/19/2004 1:43:39 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
The second amendment is not under attack? (Daily?)

The freedom of association has not been all but destroyed?

State sovereignty is not being slowly being whittled away?

Freedom of religion...
70 posted on 01/19/2004 1:43:50 PM PST by TaxRelief (P-a-n-t-h-e-r-s, Go Panthers!)
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To: Ethan_Allen
So you do approve of raising people's taxes to pay for a pollitician's folly. Gosh, we need more people like you in government. < /sarcasm>
71 posted on 01/19/2004 1:44:08 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: TaxRelief
If you want to organize a Bill of Rights campaign, go ahead.

It won't work, and it'll be boring as hell.

72 posted on 01/19/2004 1:48:42 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: TaxRelief
"Robinson said he had no permit or other authorization to place the monument on public property."

Gosh, can we all just start posting whatever we want on public property now? How about a monument with my favorite Beatles' lyrics, or one with some quotes from the Koran, and maybe just some pictures of nekkid ladies? I mean, what if I feel this higher calling to see nekkid ladies on the walls when I go to city hall? Those types of pictures offend you? Well, tough luck.

This guy is obviously a publicity-seeking dolt.
73 posted on 01/19/2004 1:56:02 PM PST by kegler4
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To: drjimmy
how about if about 15 or 20 homeless persons slept beside it and beat the crap out of anyone that tried to touch it??
74 posted on 01/19/2004 1:56:19 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: TaxRelief; sinkspur
I'd be more convinced of his conviction were he not running for office.
75 posted on 01/19/2004 1:59:18 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: JohnnyZ
Who do you like?

Dang, I was afraid someone was going to ask that.

Down here southeast of Charlotte, we get almost no news on the District 5 race (parts of Winston-Salem, and a chunk of the Blue Ridge Mountains and their foothills, for those who don't know, and a safe GOP seat). State Senator Virginia Foxx and Mr. Robinson are the only two I have much familiarity with, and of the two, I'd prefer Ms. Foxx. I've seen accusations of RINOism, but based on her voting record and her declared positions, I don't find them credible.

Frankly, Robinson seems to be getting the most press and the most buzz just because he's black -- the novelty of a black Republican is attractive to some, I suppose. I find him a bit overbearing, and certainly this silly stunt doesn't elevate his stature in my eyes.

I haven't heard too much positive about Ed Broyhill; evidently, the genes have thinned out in that GOP dynasty. And I know nothing about Jay Helvey, other than that he only recently moved back to NC, and that he's largely self-financing his campaign -- neither of these disqualifies him, but they don't make me want to jump on his bandwagon.

So I'm undecided here, as I am on the Gubernatorial primary. There's something about Robinson that rubs me wrong, but I'll keep an open mind.

76 posted on 01/19/2004 2:15:19 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (How 'bout those CAROLINA PANTHERS!)
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To: cajun-jack
how about if about 15 or 20 homeless persons slept beside it and beat the crap out of anyone that tried to touch it??

Gee, just what I need--crawling gingerly around 15-20 homeless persons sleeping on a walkway outside city hall when I'm trying to renew my dog's license.

My last encounter with a homeless couple had me trying to get around them as they drank cheap wine inside the front entrance to my former office building. Because I asked them to move aside so I could get around them (it was a fairly small area) and up the steps lead one of them making a death threat towards me and the other chasing me down the block, trying to punch me out. They were both arrested for disorderly conduct and public drunkeness.

77 posted on 01/19/2004 2:21:01 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
I was referring to the "good" homeless people...like the ones the democrats use for election props!!! /humor/
78 posted on 01/19/2004 2:23:51 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: RJCogburn
Question: Should he have put is advocacy on hold because he is running for office?

79 posted on 01/19/2004 2:33:22 PM PST by TaxRelief (P-a-n-t-h-e-r-s, Go Panthers!)
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To: cajun-jack
I was referring to the "good" homeless people...like the ones the democrats use for election props!!! /humor/

LOL! They're the same ones--these two were strays from a local homeless shelter that kicked them out during the day. When the cops took my statement, they told me they both had rather impressive records, both on paper (probation or parole), the cops were glad to give them "new homes" (one had a warrant out on him) & they knew them by their first names. They also had a good talk with the manager of the homeless shelter.

But if I remember correctly, the dems in Milwaukee were recruiting out of the Rescue Mission---same clientele, as it were, from the homeless shelter in our town.

80 posted on 01/19/2004 2:37:16 PM PST by Catspaw
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