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Gap widening between Bush and conservatives
Townhall.com ^ | January 23, 2004 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 01/23/2004 5:23:57 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy

Gap widening between Bush and conservatives


Jonah Goldberg

I thought President Bush's State of the Union address was fine. It wasn't outrageously long. He drew a bright line between himself and his critics on the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, Social Security Reform, etc. He delivered it well, and the nudity was tasteful and integral to the plot.

As luck - or bad timing - would have it, I was invited to Manhattan to address the New York State Conservative Party right before the president addressed the nation. It seemed only fitting since the subject of my speech was the conflict between Bush's "compassionate conservatism" and traditional conservatism. You see, conservatives in New York City have suffered more and for longer than conservatives in the rest of America. Trust me, I grew up on New York City's Upper West Side. We felt like Christians in Ancient Rome.

Well, after three years with George W. Bush at the helm, many conservatives are starting to feel like we've been sent to the catacombs. Don't get me wrong. Out in real America where most Americans - liberal and conservative - don't focus on politics every day, Bush is still doing very well. And, even among conservatives, Bush has considerable political support. But among ideological and intellectual conservatives, emotional support for Bush is starting to ebb.

I can't point to anything scientific. But if you pay attention to what conservatives are saying at meetings and in magazines, on the Web and at the think tanks, as well as what readers, friends, colleagues and sources say, there's a definite undercurrent of discontent with the president.

For some it started with his plan to offer amnesty-lite to illegal immigrants. For others, it's his fence-sitting on gay marriage. For others, like me, it was his signing of the campaign finance reform bill even though he thought it was unconstitutional. Or maybe it was his support for steel tariffs. Or the farm bill. I forget.

Anyway that doesn't matter. What unites pretty much all of these grumblers is a deep sense of, well, disgust with how much this administration is spending.

When it comes to taxpayer dollars, this is the second most "generous" administration in American history, second only to that of another Texan, Lyndon Johnson. There may be good aspects to George Bush's "compassionate conservatism," though on the whole I never liked it, but it's clear that compassion doesn't come cheap at the Bush White House, on whose watch overall spending from 2001 to 2003 grew at 16 percent and discretionary spending went up 27 percent. That's double Bill Clinton's rate.

Bush's defenders are eager to point to the war on terrorism as an excuse for increased spending. Fine. But that's only a small part of the story.

Under Bush, spending on education has gone up 60.8 percent, on labor 56 percent and on the Department of the Interior by 23.4 percent . The price tag for the president's Medicare plan alone starts, but won't end, at $400 billion. The farm bill was a pork horror show, pure and simple. More people work for the federal government now than at any time since the end of the Cold War.

Brian Riedl of the Heritage Foundation sums it up this way: "Overall for 2003, the federal government spent $20,300 per household, taxed $16,780 per household, and ran a budget deficit of $3,520 per household."

The reason most Americans haven't heard a lot about all this is twofold. Conservatives have stayed relatively quiet and liberals have controlled the anti-Bush microphone.

Democratic presidential candidates and interest groups have been screeching that the president is gutting education and abandoning the elderly. Obviously this is nonsense on tall stilts, since Bush is spending a lot more on both than Bill Clinton ever did.

In fact, on Medicare and education, for example, the Dems think Bush is being stingy. And a study by the National Taxpayers Union found that each and every one of the Democrats running for president have plans that would raise the deficit even more, from $169.6 billion under Joe Lieberman to - get this - $1.33 trillion under Al Sharpton.

Conservative opposition to such overspending is more complex than the media and the left think. Some just don't like red ink. Others think big government erodes freedom and traditional arrangements. Others believe it slowly inoculates the citizenry to greater levels of social engineering.

Whatever the reasons, conservatives - as opposed to partisan Republicans - have sincere misgivings about the kind of presidency Bush is conducting. A lot of compassionate conservatism is smart politics for the Republican Party, and some of it is even good policy. And, yes, conservatives understand that the GOP is practically the only place they have a real impact in electoral politics.

But I'm not sure George Bush understands how much he is asking from those who brought him to the dance.


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To: Dane
Reagan made a public statement supporting the Brady bill.

Reagan also suffers from Altzheimers.

101 posted on 01/23/2004 6:35:33 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Lazamataz
Reagan's not President?

Comon man, let's retain the civil approach we've had with one another. Keep that tone nice, and I'll do the same

My tone is nice, just bringing up some facts. Sorry that you don't like facts but, IMO, just post inaccuracies willy nilly.

102 posted on 01/23/2004 6:35:41 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
The opposite of love is hate.

Sir, it has been my experience that love and hate are related passions, and that the real opposite of love is indifference.

103 posted on 01/23/2004 6:36:05 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: Orangedog
Yes, it is a game when your answer is "'Cause, I can." I was just hoping for a little more depth than that. If you are unwilling to provide that depth... then move on.
104 posted on 01/23/2004 6:36:53 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got!)
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To: Lazamataz
It's about the latest and best technology. Founders owned cannon and even battleships.
105 posted on 01/23/2004 6:37:52 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Lazamataz
Now, I'm laughing. It's okay when Reagan does it. But not okay when Bush does it. Is there such a thing as a Reaganbot... cause I think you just joined up. LOL!
106 posted on 01/23/2004 6:38:29 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Many seem to forget that this country is the offspring of a revolution. Without blood being shed by men that despised a tyrannical government, we would not be here having this debate. To denounce revolution by some is to deny our own birthright.
107 posted on 01/23/2004 6:38:55 AM PST by cynicom
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To: RiflemanSharpe
Bush is alienating his base. He either needs to wake up or he need to be replaced by a true conservative. I am tired of voting for the lessor of two evil. And if you say I am throwing my vote away, how can that be if I vote for what I truly believe

Blah, blah, blah, blah, same old, same old. Do you have to tell us a million times that you don't like Bush and hope to become the 568th vote in Texas for the CP cnadidate for President.

Do it, but lay off the drama queen antics, that you have been "betrayed" and such. Bush has done what he said would do in 2000.

Sorry you can't claim false advertising.

108 posted on 01/23/2004 6:39:18 AM PST by Dane
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To: Lazamataz
Okay, then I will take back my toothless inbred no-brain dumbass piece of s**t commie m***rf***r comment that I was going to post later.

Good thing you did, because then I would have been forced to open one big can of whoop ass on you! Wouldn't have been pretty... LOL!

109 posted on 01/23/2004 6:39:51 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got!)
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To: biblewonk
Not all conservatives are fiscal conservatives.

Then, at best, they're only partially conservative.

110 posted on 01/23/2004 6:40:29 AM PST by newgeezer (A conservative who conserves -- a true capitalist!)
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To: KantianBurke
Thanks for finding a quote that directly contradicts the assertion that the President is going to strenuously push for a much more restrictive AWB. I like it when people arguing with me take the time to prove the point I was making.
111 posted on 01/23/2004 6:40:45 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: carton253
Now, I'm laughing. It's okay when Reagan does it. But not okay when Bush does it. Is there such a thing as a Reaganbot... cause I think you just joined up. LOL

I give Reagan a pass on the Brady support because of the ties of friendship. I still opposed the policy.

If Bushes Press Secretary and friend were killed by an AK-47, I'd also give Bush a pass on supporting the AW Ban. I'd still oppose that policy, too.

I think you are perceptive enough to understand this.

112 posted on 01/23/2004 6:40:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: newgeezer
Or they are barely conservative.
113 posted on 01/23/2004 6:41:33 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
An answer... a genuine answer... Praise the Lord!

And, (are you ready for this) it's an answer I can live with, support, and make sure stays the law of the land.

BTW, you aren't planning to overthrow the government in the near future, are you?

114 posted on 01/23/2004 6:41:36 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got!)
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To: carton253
Yes, it is a game when your answer is "'Cause, I can." I was just hoping for a little more depth than that. If you are unwilling to provide that depth... then move on.

I provided some depth, but it was lost because you were distracted by my insult.

115 posted on 01/23/2004 6:42:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: Dane
If anyone needs to lay off, its you.
116 posted on 01/23/2004 6:42:11 AM PST by KEVLAR
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To: RiflemanSharpe
And just what true conservative are you planning to replace him with in 2004?
117 posted on 01/23/2004 6:42:17 AM PST by carton253 (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States and war is what they got!)
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To: Dane
Sorry you can't claim false advertising.


Maybe you are right but the base is restless. He need to move back to the right or he risks losing votes and being a one termer like his father.
118 posted on 01/23/2004 6:42:18 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: William McKinley
Thanks for finding a quote that directly contradicts the assertion that the President is going to strenuously push for a much more restrictive AWB.

Now you are predicting the future.

119 posted on 01/23/2004 6:43:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: Dane
...Do it, but lay off the drama queen antics, that you have been "betrayed" and such. Bush has done what he said would do in 2000....

Then you agree we were stupid to vote for him in the first place.

120 posted on 01/23/2004 6:44:22 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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