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Rough Ride - Protect Our Border's - Fight Illegal Immigration {{{Ongoing Thread}}}
Southern Poverty Law Center ^ | 1-29-04 | Bob Moser

Posted on 01/29/2004 1:42:07 AM PST by JustPiper

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

This article has upset me greatly. When the Freedom Bus Ride was ongoing, we had an ongoing thread posted by EternalWarming. On this thread I posted an after Freep report my daughter and I attended in Chicago. On this thread someone also posted an inflammatory picture which was removed but we tastelessly laughed at it.

We had someone, that obviously was a DU and threatened us but singled myself out, with reporting it to Southern Poverty Law Center that I in fact was a hate monger. As many poster's this person was a hit/miss. I attended this Freep back in June. And this article has a few paragraphs about me, one of which is exactly what I posted. The second, is apparently doctored and quite contrary to my post. I cleared this in order to be able to post it.

Credit to thecabal for the above logo

Today begins an ongoing thread to add your links, important news,legislative happenings etc. all regarding the protection of our borders. There are now so many articles and news stories that it is good to have one place to view it all.

I will start off this thread with saying I believe we all need to contact our state representatives and those is our party who need to know this is not a one-horse issue that will go away.I have stated that all it takes is one issue to start a domino effect and the entire administration could fall apart. None of us wants that to happen. We also need to contact the media and make sure the democratic spin on this is not for political advantage. This issue is closely correlated with the War On Terror for terrorist's are using our open border's against us the same way they used commercial flights to attack us on 911.

Being I do not want this to be assumed as a vanity thread I am posting a legitimate article that was recently brought to my attention.

Here is the story:

Anti-immigration activists confront a pro-migrant freedom ride — joined by some of America's leading neo-Nazi groups

Exerpted:

On the sparkling afternoon of Oct. 3, 18 buses carrying more than 900 Immigrant Workers Freedom Riders rolled into New Jersey's Liberty State Park. The riders, many of them illegal immigrant workers from Central America, had boarded the buses nearly two weeks before in 10 different U.S. cities.

Inspired by the 1961 Freedom Rides for black civil rights, they'd made more than 100 stops in small towns and big cities to promote their reform agenda: greater workplace protections, reunification of immigrant families, and a "road to citizenship" for America's estimated 8 to 10 million undocumented workers.

Some of the protests had been lonely, with one or two anti-immigration activists holding signs with slogans like "Being Illegal Is Not a Civil Right." But at upwards of a dozen Freedom Ride stops, the anti-immigration activists had been joined by members of the nation's largest white-supremacist hate groups — all of whom had come together for today's demonstration.

Their arguments often sounded similar. Like Turner and many hate-group leaders, the powerful Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) called for federal officials to arrest the undocumented Freedom Riders.

"Any event that advertises the participation of illegal aliens ought to be raided, and the illegal aliens deported," Mark Krikorian of CIS told the Miami Herald.

At a Chicago rally, where members of the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and the neo-Nazi White Revolution appeared along with members of mainstream anti-immigration groups, protesters held signs saying, "No more free rides. No more welfare. No more stolen jobs."

This is where I need to interject ...The first highlighted paragraph 'is' in fact what I posted in my after Freep report

For many of the anti-immigration protesters, rallying side-by-side with neo-Nazis and Klansmen was too close for comfort. "Turns out we were smack in the middle of a damn white supremacist group!" an anti-immigration activist calling erself "JustPiper" complained on an Internet chat site after the Chicago counter-demonstration.

This is obviosuly what the DU troll rewrote from the rest of my report for me and sent it to SPLC

But what really got under JustPiper's skin seemed to be the Freedom Riders, not the neo-Nazis from White Revolution. "[T]hese banditos kept screaming obscenities and threats at us," she claimed. "Lemme tellya, they were just coming with signs like cockroaches!"

I've posted thousands of replies and articles here and never have I said something so idiotic or silly like this. I have made a derogatory remark about illegals offhanded saying they were reproducing like some creature. And yes I posted they were yelling threats and obsecenities at my daughter and I. But we stayed silent holding our poster's in front of us. Also we left the group when a federal agent (This was in front of the Federal Building)told us we were standing by white supremacist's which means now both side's were scaring us and we went to stand with some police officer's who knew our dual plight. So people firsthand I am feeling the sting and I will not back down from the illegal immigrant issue!

Now onto links:

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Contact your local media and the following of your choice:

ABC NEWS
BOSTON GLOBE
CBS
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
FOX NEWS
NY TIMES
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON TIMES
WORLD NET DAILY

LOU DOBBS -EXPORTING AMERICA

Scarborough Country

MICHELLE MALKIN

PAT BUCHANAN


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KEYWORDS: aliens; conservatives; fox; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; information; links; protectourborders
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To: JustPiper
Illegals rise 15% since Bush plan Border Patrol seeing increase in attempts at busiest crossing

I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked! Who could have predicted this? </sarcasm>

21 posted on 01/29/2004 2:37:49 AM PST by thecabal
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To: JustPiper
Those who are out to win on this issue (and I do NOT mean the people, good citizens of this country who have legitmate concerns) will use any tactic including lies and attempts to defame and label, will use any means to muzzle us. They are trying to do the same with Tancredo using any means possible to punish him for his stand. These sick tactics makes me even more strong in my resolve to write in Tancredo in the election. God Bless JustPiper.

22 posted on 01/29/2004 3:07:08 AM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: Zipporah
And you my dear friend!
23 posted on 01/29/2004 3:12:29 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: thecabal
I fumed for a few hours when I got his in mail, then I laughed, my daughter was hysterical tonight because she said that is so not what you would say -g- but C, I'd love to see the face of that lousy author when he gets my email announcing "I'm that JustPiper you wrote about, how does libel suit sit with you?"
24 posted on 01/29/2004 3:14:33 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: JustPiper
I don't know that you can threaten them with libel, since they only identified you by your FR handle. Which sucks, because I hate seeing them get away with this crap.
25 posted on 01/29/2004 3:28:21 AM PST by thecabal
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To: JustPiper
Can anything good come from the Southern Poverty Law center?
These are the racists who produced "Gathering Storm:Americas' militia threat" and the same wicked people who cellibrated Myron Thompsons Klannish decision in
Glassroth v.Moore.
26 posted on 01/29/2004 4:42:35 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: All
Not to worry, people we elect are looking out for us. Uh.. kind of. Part A of one campaign promise was kept, now for Part B.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/ca/story/8174159p-9105617c.html

[Schwarzenegger] said he is working "very hard" with Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, to come up with "a great bill" that would allow undocumented immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.

He blasted similar legislation signed last year by former Gov. Gray Davis and persuaded legislators to repeal the law immediately after taking office.

Schwarzenegger has said many times that once security and insurance issues can be resolved to his satisfaction he'd support a new bill, but his comments Tuesday were among his strongest on the prospect to date.

And he said he's not worried about opposition from fellow Republicans, many of whom threatened to ask voters to repeal the Davis-signed law if Schwarzenegger couldn't get the Legislature to do it.

"I'm talking to my Republican friends all the time about it and also to my Democratic friends," he said Tuesday. "We will do it."

[end excerpt]

Anyone who read his official campaign site knew this was coming. There was also speculation locally that the ease at which AB60 was repealed signaled a deal was struck to bring it back with "more safeguards."

27 posted on 01/29/2004 5:03:14 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: JustPiper
Tancredo says that any immigration reform bill that comes out of Congress will be worse than the Bush plan.
28 posted on 01/29/2004 5:06:55 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: JustPiper
Wow, JP, I didn't know you were such a troublemaker there in the good state of Illinios!

;)
:)

By the way, are you -m- or -g-?

29 posted on 01/29/2004 5:23:39 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: JustPiper
bttt
30 posted on 01/29/2004 5:27:04 AM PST by Dante3
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To: JustPiper
Thanks for pinging me, JP. Your efforts to keep us informed on these stories are greatly appreciated. Here's a bttt for your hard work.
31 posted on 01/29/2004 5:29:49 AM PST by truthkeeper
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To: StonyBurk
Since it was brought to my attention, I sure got a fast education on this group! I cannot believe they have FAIR on their hitlist as a 'hate group'! Who do they think they are?!
32 posted on 01/29/2004 6:03:49 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: Ben Ficklin; All

Immigration Reform -
Actively continued chairmanship of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.

Introduced H.R. 3600, the National Border Security Agency Act.

Led effort in Congress to oppose further extensions of Section 245(i).

Chaired a hearing of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus.

Introduced H.R. 2712, the Mass Immigration Reduction Act of 2001.

Introduced H. Con. Res. 220, a resolution affirming the commitment of Congress to preserving the sovereignty of the United States and the integrity of its border.
Compiled a set of fourteen immigration reforms.

Rep. Tom Tancredo’s Four-Point Plan for Immigration Control - The United States has lost control over its immigration policy. Over one million persons enter our nation illegally each year and we have antiquated and error-prone systems for knowing who our legal visitors are and for enforcing their visa time limits. Every poll shows that over 75% of citizens support border security and strict enforcement of our immigration laws.

http://www.house.gov/tancredo/Immigration/

WRITE IN CONGRESSMAN TOM TANCREDO OF DENVER IN MARCH!
33 posted on 01/29/2004 6:07:02 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
I wear a skirt -g-
34 posted on 01/29/2004 6:07:33 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: All; winker
FREEPER WINKER'S CREED

No Person can be considered a "Contributor" to America un-less they are Identified,fingerprinted, placed on the Tax rolls and Social Security with a permanent Address making them a legal Tax paying Citizen; subject to all the rights and provisions this Country provides to its citizens. Otherwise they continue to be a scab and a botch "WE THE PEOPLE"are obligated to support.

This is a pay as you go society and not a free lunch. If you live here you work here speak the FIRST Language and swear allegiance to the Constitution then you get to share equally in a system "EVERBODY" Supports and pays into! Time to come out of the woodworks and live in the open or follow your noses back across the Borders!

35 posted on 01/29/2004 6:10:03 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: MamaDearest; All
FARMERS FACE BUNCH OF TROUBLE (Free Trade Said Goodby to the American FARMERS)
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | January 28, 2004 | Juliana Barbassa
Posted on 01/28/2004 11:42:01 PM CST by fatso

FARMERS FACE BUNCH OF TROUBLE

Cheap imports threaten to nudge U.S. growers from the dinner table

FRESNO – America's growing appetite for cheap vegetables year round is feeding a steady rise in imports that is squeezing U.S. farmers, according to a recent U.S. Department of Agriculture study.

{{{OUTSOURCING}}}

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067318/posts


36 posted on 01/29/2004 6:14:07 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: JustPiper
Then where does the -g- come from? I thought you were an -m- ?
37 posted on 01/29/2004 6:15:43 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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Tancredo Warns the Social Security System Endangered by Bush’s "Totalization Agreement" with Mexico
Congressman Tom Tancredo
Posted on 01/29/2004 7:46:16 AM CST by Happy2BMe

A September 2003 GAO Report warns that the cost of the proposed agreement cannot be reliably estimated because the number of eligible Mexican workers in unknown and may number in the millions.

WASHINGTON, DC – Congressman Tom Tancredo (CO-06) today criticized President Bush’s proposal for allowing both legal and illegal Mexican workers to reclaim their Social Security contributions when they reach retirement age. "The President’s proposal bears no resemblance to the other agreements we already have with 20 other countries," said Tancredo. "Bringing illegal Mexican workers into the Social Security System not only rewards illegal behavior, it also further endangers the fiscal health of our Social Security System."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067471/posts


38 posted on 01/29/2004 6:16:16 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
g or m = m or f? Help? ;) or grin or mad? DL!? -hehe-
39 posted on 01/29/2004 6:17:22 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican and Write-In Tom Tancredo in March)
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To: JustPiper
JP: I mean I thought you were an -m- as in Monica! But sometimes you sign off with -g- and I always wanted to ask you why.
40 posted on 01/29/2004 6:17:53 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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