Israel promises painful response to bus bombing: BOMBER WAS A PA POLICE OFFICER

Jerusalem Post ^ | Jan. 29, 2004 | By BRET STEPHENS

[Old Professer]

AFAIK Islamics practice no form of birth control while Israelis are becoming less fecund with each generation; this means the tide will turn on sheer numbers only short of genocide.

[Old Professer]

May I remind you once again, you are not god.

[Nix 2]

Israel's response to Thursday's attack will be painful

As per usual, I expect Mofaz' response will be most painful to Israel, or the Settlements. He has decided against stopping the pallies from entering Israel again. All out war is all they will understand, and the people grow extremely impatient. THIS was so in your face, there shouldn't have even had to be a special meeting. I hope the delay was only in wait for Tannenbaum and the three DEAD Israeli Airmen, courtesy of hezbullah b*stard barbarians. But when Tannenbaum is home, there should not be a toothpick left standing anywhere the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbullah are. On to Damascus and Iran!!!

[TheSpottedOwl]

Well, the problem with that is that Israel's hands are bound by the Torah, which contains the Law. It is basically the first five books of the Old Testament.

I appreciate that, but doesn't God expect us (I'm RC) to stand up against the wicked and protect ourselves?

There is a story in the Old Testament, where an entire city is spared, for the sake of only ten righteous persons.

Sodom and Gomorrah. I remember that. Abraham pleaded with God to spare the city if he could find a certain number of righteous men. I'm starting to think that the only innocents in the Palestinian state are babies at their mother's breasts. The minute they're weaned, they're fed ideological poison.

AND there are actually at least ten righteous Palestinians (I think). So, measures that we might consider appropriate are outside the bounds of ethical Jewish behavior.

I was sure that there was some passage in the Bible where it is stated, "for indeed the devil himself can appear as an angel of light", however, I cannot find it, maybe such a passage does not exist. However, I am sure that is true.

It's true, in fact there is more than one reference to this. Heck, they're walking the streets. I don't want to be accused of having my tinfoil on too tight, but sometimes I wonder...

There has to be a "loophole" to allow Israel to protect her citizens from suicidal madmen bent on genocide. Somewhere in the bible it is said that Israel will rise again. A lot of us Catholics and Christians sit here and watch the carnage and wonder why can't this be stopped? I totally respect that your religion forbids killing the innocent with the guilty, it's just frustrating for us to watch. A lot of us pray for Israel's safety, and an end to this unending jihad.

[Truth29]

I wonder if this "policeman" was trained by US personnel or with US tax dollars since the US provides funding for the PA police and staff to provide police training

[Nix 2]

On the contrary. Jews were ORDERED to kill ALL of Amalek and leave no one. Not a single life was to be spared. What makes you ...or anyone...believe that these people ever have had innocence within them whatsoever? Saul disobeyed that order and Amalek is who we fight to this day. The order will not be fulfilled until Amalek is destroyed UTTERLY, and until then, Jews will continue to pay a heavy, heavy price for that disobedience.

[SJackson]

Likely financed trained or both by US. And rest assured he passed his knowledge on to his fellow jihadists in Iraq.

[js1138]

I was going to ask what Pennsylvania has against Israel.

[TheSpottedOwl]

On the contrary. Jews were ORDERED to kill ALL of Amalek and leave no one. Not a single life was to be spared. What makes you ...or anyone...believe that these people ever have had innocence within them whatsoever? Saul disobeyed that order and Amalek is who we fight to this day. The order will not be fulfilled until Amalek is destroyed UTTERLY, and until then, Jews will continue to pay a heavy, heavy price for that disobedience.

Excuse me for being rusty on the Old Testament. This could be the loophole I was mentioning in my post to Ron.

[Nix 2]

Yepper. This is the one. It is also the duty of Jews, if they are aware of a clear and present danger to themselves, or anyone else, to do something about it, even if it means another's death. In that case, it is not considered murder. The BIGGER sin is to do nothing.

[eccl1212]

US ambassador to Israel Dan Kurtzer expressed his horror and shock at the murder of innocent Jews and reiterated his belief that "the Palestinians must take all steps to make this stop.

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and this is where they get it all WRONG... "the ISRAELIS must take all steps to make this stop." not pallies.

That means that Israel must kill them, fence them in, give them a state. So that when they do anything untoward, as do all arab islamakazi states in the region...
flatten them, crush them and kill the people who support the death machine.

Mutual Assured Destruction guarantees an arms race... one sided destruction of the "animalistic palestinian death cult worshippers" brings about and end to hostilities NOTHING ELSE.

STUPID US STATE DEPARTMENT.
STUPID ISRAELIS.
gloves off kill the vermin... or join the cult of the ongoing bloodbath.

[eccl1212]

Israel's response to Thursday's attack will be painful

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baloney... they will surround or expel arafat at the worst.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Yepper. This is the one. It is also the duty of Jews, if they are aware of a clear and present danger to themselves, or anyone else, to do something about it, even if it means another's death. In that case, it is not considered murder. The BIGGER sin is to do nothing.

Of course, that makes sense. Everyone has a duty and a right to protect themselves, their families, and their neighbors. The question is "when". Btw, pinged you to an interesting article relating to this topic.

[antaresequity]

Did you get the exchange rate on that prisoner swap transaction?

There is more to this...there has to be

My twisted brain concocted the possibility these terrorists were implanted with subdermal transponders...or some sort of tracking device...

LOL

[Truth29]

..."they will surround or expel arafat at the worst."

No they won't. We would sanction them severely if they did. They will probably kill a few militants and blow up a building somewhere in the Pali areas. Nothing will be accomplished.

[yonif]

The United States has delivered 300 million dollars to the Palestinian "Security" Apparatus

[Cinnamon Girl]

Why do we expect more of this:

And not enough of this:

[Simcha7]

THIS IS WORTH REPEATING...

"BOMB Mecca, BOMB Medina, BOMB Cairo, BOMB Aman, BOMB Damascus. The arabs must be treated as One nation as they themselves say that they are. They have declared war now give it to them."

"24 posted on 01/29/2004 2:06:50 PM EST by kazatzkeh"

Could Not have said it any better myself!

ISRAEL LET'S ROLL!

Amen ~ and ~ Amen.

[eccl1212]

thanks for making my point...
I said the "WORST" they would do.

Even as we speak Powell is begging them, twisting arms and all, to NOT ACT IMPULSIVELY, because doing so might impact the President's reelection, you know "the best friend Israel ever had?" that is as long as they "tow the line and don't do anything radical to stop the terroristas...

Wouldn't want folks to say on TV that the president's plans for realignment of the middle east are NOT working well. Of course, we all know that President Bush is NOT responsible for all of Israel's security needs, or the peace of the entire middle east... but he will be blamed for not doing enough, or too much, or being wrongheaded in some unimagineable way...

Israel OUGHT to just do a extract and erradicate on the multiple heads of the hydra... instead of arresting them and turning them loose 400 at a time.

OUGHT to, but will not.
Powell to the rescue, eh?

[wizardoz]

I thought they practiced the religion of peace? /so

Geez, if this is just practice I'd hate to see what happens when they do it for real. ;^)