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To: SheLion
What is your point? If someone is dressed differently or is of a different religion they have no right to be here?
18 posted on 01/31/2004 6:16:00 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
We like diversity in America. Just not terrorists.
24 posted on 01/31/2004 6:19:08 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
What is your point? If someone is dressed differently or is of a different religion they have no right to be here?

ahhhhh let's not get testy!  There is a lot going on with this story.  So I guess you haven't been following the threads over the past two years.

Don't be jumping to conclusions about my threads concerning the Somali immigrants that were transplanted to the state of Maine.


29 posted on 01/31/2004 6:24:36 AM PST by SheLion (Curiosity killed the cat BUT satisfaction brought her back!!!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace; SheLion
" If someone is dressed differently or is of a different religion they have no right to be here?"

I don't think that's the point at all. The point is that if you're a man in dress with a towel around your head and a beard, or five times a day you drop to the floor and stick your behind in the air and you frequent establishments known for harboring illegals, there is a pretty good chance that you have no right to be here. That's why it's called "illegal." While profiling may have its drawbacks, it also works in many cases and for the ones who are doing nothing wrong and are legitimate immigrants, visitors or even citizens, they have nothing to worry about. While I wouldn't like to see these tactics in widespread use, in areas where there are known concentrations of illegals, I think there is validity to it unless and until we find better ways.

That said, I don't think fear should be the primary motivator for these people to leave though. In the first place, it really doesn't work. It just drives them farthur underground and in many cases may serve as an encouragement to them to commit other crimes. No; what we need is to remove their reasons for wanting to be here so that they leave on their own. I would like to see severe penalties imposed on employers who hire them, removal of ALL freebies to illegals beyond emergency medical (followed by immediate deportation), the elimination of anchor baby citizenship and the denial of any special consideration to those who are already here. Employers who hire those who "do work that Americans won't do" must be required to pay a competitive wage and if he then is unable to employ an American after a reasonable period of time, he may employ a non-American from a pool of registered and approved workers who are still IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES WAITING FOR WORK, and then only for a brief period of time. He should be required to extend the position to Americans at least once a year. A guest worker should also have absolute limits on the length of time he can be here and must sign documents stating that he understands that not returning to his home country upon expiration of his permit subjects him to criminal penalties and deportation and furthur, as a condition of his acceptance into the guest worker program, he would be required to waive any access to the American courts for the purpose of contesting removal or to bring any type of civil rights action against either his employer or immigration officials.

While such guidelines might impose some uncomfortable restraints on guest workers, if their claim is legitimate and they only desire to work jobs Americans won't do and send money home, then compliance shouldn't be overly burdensome. If, however, their intention is to get here, stay here, bring their entire families here and take whatever they can get, or if their intention is to import more crime to our streets and communities, then this should serve as a potent deterrent, which is exactly what it should do.

152 posted on 01/31/2004 9:00:40 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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