Posted on 02/22/2004 11:15:39 AM PST by Impeach98
SurveyUSA has had Kaloogian at 9% in the last three polls, but they also have Jones in the 31-36% range.
The one thing that strikes me is how all these polls (Field, PPIC, Survey USA) have had this MASSIVE percentage of UNDECIDED voters.
Eight days before an election and 57-73% of Republicans say they are undecided. Marin vaulted from 3% to 12% in that PPIC poll you posted JUST by advertising on southern California talk radio.
I can only wonder how high Kaloogian will surge now that we will be starting not just radio but TV ads.
Yeah, he is...
Trouble is it's IN one ear and OUT the other.
Of course we're all supposed to be placated by the recent Bush Administration "proposal" to Mexico to begin the deportation of illegals to their place of origins, but guess what? Since the Mexican authorities DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, we have to propose another "solution."
It's just a lame attempt at game playing and lip service by this administration to halt the tide of the GOP's mutineers.
We may not need a "permission slip" from the UN to act unilaterally, but we need a permission slip from Mexico??
It's not in Denmark where something is "smelling rotten," is it?
Is it possible the man's blind-spot is that huge??
And yet there are those who expect that we ALL follow Dubya over the cliff to prove our loyalty to him?? Isn't it the other way 'round?
With Rove and the neos goading him on, there's Dubya ill-advisedly pushing in his chips into the middle of the table trying to draw a 2-3-4-5-6 inside straight -- except ALL of the fours have been accounted for already.
The man's won some nice pots since he's became President, but this is one pot he ain't gonna win if he doesn't let US do the math for him.
Yep, because he's that stubborn. What I mean by "learn" is to feel the pain. Let's hope he's not too insulated.
And yet there are those who expect that we ALL follow Dubya over the cliff to prove our loyalty to him?? Isn't it the other way 'round?
Of those individuals I'd say 75% of them are OPPOSED to 57/58, but they are fiercly loyal to Arnold. So they passed out the Arnold material touting 57/58 and wore the "YES on 57/58" stickers.
They are conflicted. I suspect some will end up voting for the measures even though they hate 57 and feel that Arnold caved in on 58 by dropping the Spending Cap and instead settling for a Balanced Budget Amendment which allows the Democrats to continue to raise spending 'according to revenues' - which just means more accounting gimmicks from the Democrats in the legislature.
I really am clueless as to how 57/58 will do. Most polls show it losing, but Democrats oppose it while Republicans narrowly support it, because they want to help Arnold.
This one is tough for me - I voted NO on both... but I am a little sympathetic to Arnold in the fact that I think he recognizes the Democrats suck and he believes he could never get a spending cap through so he took what he thought he could get which was better than a tax increase.
But in good conscience I can't vote for a proposal which to be honest was almost exactly that of Gray Davis which we all abhorred... just pushing off the cuts we need in spending and trying to refinance the debt with bonds.
That is horribly anti-fiscal conservatism... yet, is it better than a tax increase? I guess so, but what I want is for the Democrats to get the message that Arnold would have stumped against them up and down the state for refusing to cut spending and made them take the hits - instead of coming up with a $15 billion bond plan that protects their spending addiction.
If the bond plan had been proposed by a Democrat there is no doubt that 90% of FReepers and 70% of Republicans would have oppose it.
But because it was proposed by Republican Schwarzenegger, who is trying to avoid a tax increase, it pulls at Republicans to rally around him.
The last two polls showed about 42% of Republicans supporting it to 37% opposing it.
I'm sure a lot of the 42% supporting it have a lot of reservations about the plan, just as I am sure a lot of the 37% who say they oppose it feel bad about opposing Arnold's bond when they know the Democrats would have a worse prescription for us - TAX INCREASES.
What I really want is to make sure 56 loses, and then if 57/58 pass I won't be thrilled, but I won't be weeping either. But if 56 and 57 lose I'd be quite content. But then if that happens conservatives need to rally up and back Arnold up against the Democrats in opposing a tax increase.
It's a very very complicated chess game here which is why even though I voted NO on 57/58 I don't hold animosity towards Arnold. I believe he did the best deal he thought he could... I just wish he had tried a different track - beat up the Dems for not supporting the spending cap and building public pressure and demands for their to be CUTS to our bloated state budget.
So, no matter what happens, I won't be beating up the Gov. on this one. Now, if he supports Gil Cedillo's drivers' license for illegal alien bill (as he first said he would to the Sacramento Press Club which generated lots of media coverage of his support) I can't say the same. He made a campaign promise to repeal the drivers' license for illegals bill. And if we were all supposed to figure out that he meant 'but I'll support another one with a different bill number on it' well I'd find that disengenous of him. I'll wait to see what he finally decides... but I am hoping these rallies (and hopefully a Kaloogian win) will make him recalculate the politics of the situation. I was SO pleased with his rollback of the car tax and SB 60... I would like to get back to being pleased with him again :)
The 57-58 commercials don't offend me like the crap put out by the pro-56 fools.
But it was good to see a strong anti-56 campaign at the convention. I managed to score a NO ON 56 button.
The news coverage I managed to see was rather scant, particularly on the Kaloogian rally. Too much focus on gay marriage, gay marriage, and gay marriage. Somehow the news crews found all the log cabin Republicans to express their disappointment in Arnold coming down on the San Francisco gay marriage outrage. Gag.
Finnegan's LA Times story was the best... ironic since he hates conservatives... but in his mind the rally by Kaloogian and following he attracts on the issue of immigration is something to be 'exposed' so we can all rise up to stop it.
I noticed also that on Thursday or Friday MAPA came out to endorse Boxer and they tag-teamed to attack Kaloogian and his proposals. We were encouraged by that. Yes, please, make us the evil people who believe our borders should be enforced. And make sure you rant and rave about that to the media so they can tell the rest of the people of California that Howard feels that way. :)
Are you saying that opposing illegal immigration is an attack on President Bush?? You need to think more clearly. This was a rally against illegal immigration and the mess it brings to America. Read the article.
Go Howard Go.
Note to the Bots: all that Bill Jones and GWBush need to do is...get on the right side of this "issue". Or else...they're going to go down over it. Now that Mr. Gobernator has gone sideways on licenses, doing an about face from his campaign, we can easily point to the consequences of appeasing the RINO front in the Republican Party. No one trusts him now.
So that's all there is to it. Enforce the existing laws, or get diselected. We're doing it to guys like Gray Davis, and Mssrs. Newsom and Lockyer just held up their paws to be next in the Recall Parade. Arnold too if he doesn't get a grip soon.
We want our children to live the American Dream, not the Mexican Nightmare.
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