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The coming ice age [full-blown glaciation in less than 20 years]
Backwoods Home ^ | 3-8-04 | John Silveira

Posted on 03/08/2004 4:57:00 PM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson
Here's to hoping. I've had the urge to buy a snowmobile for several years now...... :-)
51 posted on 03/08/2004 6:16:39 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Too funny...loved that movie.
52 posted on 03/08/2004 6:17:52 PM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: SJackson
I am a firm believer in the theory of man made global warming. However, I also belive that we are WAY overdue for an ice age. I think that man made global warming is the only thing holding that ice age at bay.

So throw another log on the fire!!!!

Read Larry Niven and Jerry Porunelle's (and ?? Barnes?) Fallen Angels for a full (and very funny) treatment of this idea. What happens if the Greens take over, insititute their draconian eco laws, and the result is glaciers in Cleveland? Great book. They skewer every leftist sacred cow that there is. William Proxmire is the root of all evil, when you get right down to it. One of my favorite books. And they aucitioned off character parts to SF fans at conventions to raise money for good causes. I recognize over half of the characters. Fun stuff.

53 posted on 03/08/2004 6:17:56 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: SJackson
Hey if it will bury the English under 200 feet of ice, BRING IT ON!!
54 posted on 03/08/2004 6:20:03 PM PST by Freeper john
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To: SJackson
We'd better get ANWR drilled now. Otherwise, well depth will be increased by several thousand feet of ice, and it might not be economically feasible. And we must have more hydrocarbon energy to keep warm in the new ice age.

Drill ANWR NOW! Before the coming glaciation makes it much more difficult.

On the other hand, maybe we can spread carbon black on the glaciers and melt them.

Maybe.

And maybe somebody just wants some new gummit grants to study this new/old phenomenon. Global warming has about run its course, and it's time for new funding for this. Can we afford to wait?

Oh, I was so looking forward to a warmer clime. Now this!
55 posted on 03/08/2004 6:23:29 PM PST by Ole Okie (Kerry! Kerry! Kerry! Raw, raw, raw! John Effin&Essin Kerry-Heinz for dogcatcher!!)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Hey! Where'd you get my driver's license photo?
56 posted on 03/08/2004 6:25:59 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: weegee
Bin Laden cast as family man who loves volleyball, hates ice

Interesting - I didn't know that.

If they ever catch him alive, he should be sentenced to a life term in a lovely little garden spot called Adak Alaska instead of Gitmo.

57 posted on 03/08/2004 6:28:27 PM PST by Johnny_Cipher (Making hasenfeffer out of bunnyrabbits since 1980)
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To: SJackson
I can't wait to ice skate on Lake Okeechobee.

5.56mm

58 posted on 03/08/2004 6:29:23 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SJackson
Check this site out: http://www.iceagenow.com/
59 posted on 03/08/2004 6:32:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: SJackson
At lerast I won't have to pay big prices for ice at the seven eleven.

Gin & Tonic ping!

Regards,

60 posted on 03/08/2004 6:32:30 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: kabar
Great site.


61 posted on 03/08/2004 6:36:35 PM PST by SJackson (The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
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To: SJackson
Thought we had global warming on Friday, it was up to 68 here, but it's now 34. Damn global cooling!!!!
62 posted on 03/08/2004 6:41:39 PM PST by Springman
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To: SJackson

MM MMM MMM MMM MMM TOASTY

63 posted on 03/08/2004 6:43:06 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Is it time to water the tree of Liberty ?)
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To: SJackson
I'm applying for a wolly mammouth tag right away!

If you're on the FAFFCP,(Federal Aid to Families with Feral Children Program) you don't even need a tag and Aurochs
can be taken in season!
64 posted on 03/08/2004 6:50:35 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Springman
Just down the road the official snow fall for the year is 210". Does that count for an ice age?
65 posted on 03/08/2004 6:55:31 PM PST by duk
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To: SJackson; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
66 posted on 03/08/2004 7:02:07 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: SJackson
Okay, I just finished a paleontology exhibit, and learned a lot about conditions in the local area during the last Ice Age. It was pretty nice around here, a bit cooler and wetter than today, with Sequoias growing in the mountains, but nothing like the thick sheets of ice covering what is now the northern US.

I have been carefully recording California bashing threads and offenders will NOT be allowed in So Cal when the cold hits!
67 posted on 03/08/2004 7:03:54 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SJackson
I am almost finished with the book by Felix. It makes for a compelling read. Well-documented and an easy read. If Ice Ages occur every 11,500 years like clockwork, we are on schedule for another one in another 10-15 years or maybe sooner. So much for global warming and the hubris of mankind to think that we can influence significantly the climate of the earth and the natural cycle that has been going on for billions of years.
68 posted on 03/08/2004 7:06:09 PM PST by kabar
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"Aren't these places covered with ice most of the time anyway?"


Actually, those Big Sh*ttys are usually covered with Liberals and welfare clients instead of snow. Hmmmnn - "covered"? Would "infested" have been better? Questions, questions.
69 posted on 03/08/2004 7:06:11 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: SJackson
So, expect the great northern cities, such as New York, Boston, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, etc., to be swept away before advancing glaciers.

Yeah, there's no way to stop ice advancing at several feet per year.

70 posted on 03/08/2004 7:11:06 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: marktwain
How will cheap space travel inevitably follow nanotechnology?

Not that I'm complaining. Just curious.

71 posted on 03/08/2004 7:19:08 PM PST by tjg
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The global warming will melt the polar ice cap which will flood the North Sea with frigid fresh water and block the Gulf Stream current which will cause an ice age in Europe.

That is pretty much what happened during the Younger-Dryas period about 11,000 years ago. The frigid fresh water was from North America though.

72 posted on 03/08/2004 7:19:08 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: weegee
Bin Laden cast as family man who loves volleyball, hates ice.

Hey Usama, no ice at Gitmo!

73 posted on 03/08/2004 7:20:44 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: SJackson
For God's sake don't shoot the manmouths, we may have to milk and ride them
74 posted on 03/08/2004 7:42:18 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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To: SJackson
Been there, done that.


75 posted on 03/08/2004 7:58:56 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: SJackson
IVE Said this for years

what is more threatening thing to man? warm or cold?

why is 2/3 of the earth non-inhabitable ? cold

all of canada, basically

most of russia , basically

most areas over 5000 ft even in temperate climates

can you grow anything in the cold? no

thus, global warming, despite the flooding of some islands that youve never heard about in the pacific, is NOT a threat.

increases in storms etc are just plain conjecture

Bottom line, the #1 reason we need to get on the renewable energy trip is becuase when the big boys get in a fight over oil when it runs short it will be REAL REAL UGLY.

signed

solar man (formerly h2dude)


76 posted on 03/08/2004 8:09:02 PM PST by H2dude
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To: SJackson
IVE Said this for years

what is more threatening thing to man? warm or cold?

why is 2/3 of the earth non-inhabitable ? cold

all of canada, basically

most of russia , basically

most areas over 5000 ft even in temperate climates

can you grow anything in the cold? no

thus, global warming, despite the flooding of some islands that youve never heard about in the pacific, is NOT a threat.

increases in storms etc are just plain conjecture

Bottom line, the #1 reason we need to get on the renewable energy trip is becuase when the big boys get in a fight over oil when it runs short it will be REAL REAL UGLY.

signed

solar man (formerly h2dude)


77 posted on 03/08/2004 8:10:12 PM PST by H2dude
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To: SJackson
Hmm ... so then Texas gets to build hundreds of nuclear reactors and heat the crap out of everything.

Sounds like a plan ....

Plenty of West Texas desert that could use a few mammoths crapping all over the place and then presto ... farmland.

78 posted on 03/08/2004 8:12:05 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The global warming will melt the polar ice cap which will flood the North Sea with frigid fresh water and block the Gulf Stream current which will cause an ice age in Europe.

Dilution is the solution. We either need to dilute the ocean to match the ice melt. Or salt the ice. If we salt the ice it will melt faster, but if we take care to match the saline solution of the world's oceans. we can stop the threat of another ice age forever! TO SAVE THE WORLD WE NEED TO SALT THE POLES!! (screw the caribou and penguins)

79 posted on 03/08/2004 8:28:33 PM PST by D Rider
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To: SJackson
My feet are cold....I hope I don't contribute to the problem.
80 posted on 03/08/2004 8:31:44 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I just realized that because I'm lefthanded, the right side of my brain has been working correctly)
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To: raloxk
Well, one thing is for sure, something really bad is going to happen to us all if we don't quickly adopt world wide socialism!
81 posted on 03/08/2004 8:55:04 PM PST by TheDon (John Kerry, self proclaimed war criminal, Democratic Presidential nominee)
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To: The Great RJ
I was trying to understand how you get 2 miles of snow in 20 years. It does seem a bit much. Does it really rain that much anywhere?
82 posted on 03/08/2004 8:57:04 PM PST by TheDon (John Kerry, self proclaimed war criminal, Democratic Presidential nominee)
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To: TheDon
Great Story on how that UK Guardian report on how a Pentagon Paper said global warming will destory us in 20 years was a planted hoax by a reporter in Edmonton. He wanted to see if the Guardian would fall for the most absurd story so long as it bashed Bush.
83 posted on 03/08/2004 8:57:52 PM PST by raloxk
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To: SandRat
For more info on this, a great site: http://www.iceagenow.com
84 posted on 03/08/2004 9:01:23 PM PST by trajanus_red
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To: Lawgvr1955
According to Jimmy Carter's Global 2000 Report which I read in full from the library back in the 80's, we should all already be long dead.
85 posted on 03/08/2004 9:05:46 PM PST by Indie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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To: flying Elvis
You are gonna love this link! LOL!

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9941/

86 posted on 03/08/2004 9:10:11 PM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: SJackson
When they can predict tomorrow's and next week's weather with certainty, then I'll start believing some of these doomsady scenarios.

Till then it's just a bunch of crap.
87 posted on 03/08/2004 9:10:13 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Indie
According to Jimmy Carter's Global 2000 Report which I read in full from the library back in the 80's, we should all already be long dead.

If Jimmy had been re-elected we all might have been.

88 posted on 03/08/2004 9:13:47 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (I am not completely worthless; I can always serve as a "bad example".)
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To: kabar
I've been thinking about buying this book. Is it worth the read?
89 posted on 03/08/2004 9:14:24 PM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: aquila48
It was 92 degrees here in Southern California today . . . or was that just frostbite that I was feeling. Do I need to start chopping down trees for extra firewood, or dig a bigger swimming pool? decisions, decisions, decisions . . .
90 posted on 03/08/2004 9:17:06 PM PST by NorseWood
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To: SJackson
A few years back, I read about scientists studying core drillings from some lake in Canada (the sediments). They could tell the annual flow, temperature, etc.

The cores told a story of an ice age advancing.
Length of time from the earliest indicators that the climate was cooling until full blown complete glaciation:

Ninety years.

91 posted on 03/08/2004 9:18:51 PM PST by djf
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To: SJackson
"Global Warming", it's a good thing.
92 posted on 03/08/2004 9:22:00 PM PST by Katya
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To: H2dude
I don't know, H2dude. We had a much better garden on Alaska than we did in Wyoming. The biggest difference was the shorter growing season. We could only bring in one or two crops in AK, but we managed to get three in Michigan. Bigger and better animals, too. I think that the cold helped keep the parasites down. (I know there's a liberal joke in here somewhere...)

All-in-all, it's workable. And I have awakened to find my house COMPLETELY covered in snow, roof and everything. I'll never forget my father's swearing when he opened the front door to find a wall of white. The roof didn't cave in and the snow actually acted like insulation in the house. I do think that we'll have to adapt to less vegetation, though. The eskimos did it without farming, so can we.

93 posted on 03/08/2004 9:22:10 PM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: H2dude
One more thing. Don't forget green houses, hydroponics and grow lights. We really can grow anything, anywhere.
94 posted on 03/08/2004 9:23:23 PM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: SJackson
We wouldn't have any of this creeping ice sheet problem if the President would only stop kissing Canadian butt and build a wall along our norther border!
95 posted on 03/08/2004 9:25:36 PM PST by CWOJackson (What are you complaining about, she called me compassionate...)
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To: SJackson
I think people living in Manitoba might notice. The lack of snow melting would be a big clue as would the Canada Day (aka Dominion Day) snowstorms.

The glaciation could be triggered by various things that cause increased snow in the higher latitudes. The only thing new about this article is that people are beginning to notice the speed with which these climate changes occur.
96 posted on 03/08/2004 9:27:03 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: InShanghai
Well I don't know about your cooling linked to the magnetic field flip, but we are seeing a flip of the magnetic field right now.... based on models we are well on our way to the north and south manetic poles flipping very soon.

I have never seen any suggestion that this flipping coincided with ice ages... but it is certainly an interesting theory if the dates do coincide.
97 posted on 03/08/2004 9:30:43 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SJackson
No one really knows what causes ice ages.

For those who are interested:
What about the Ice Age?

98 posted on 03/08/2004 9:37:18 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Squantos; wardaddy; Eaker; onyx
Stories like this make me want to keep the mothership, currently welded to the dock occupying an expensive hole in the water in San Diego.


99 posted on 03/08/2004 9:44:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SandRat
It won't silence them. They will turn it into nouvelle cuisine.
100 posted on 03/08/2004 9:46:03 PM PST by rock58seg (Broken Glass Conservative, I'll even vote for a moderate if he's the most conservative candidate.)
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