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R-Rating Sought in Some Smoking Films
AP/Yahoo ^ | March 9, 2004 | ANTHONY BREZNICAN

Posted on 03/09/2004 2:21:37 PM PST by In_25_words_or_less

LOS ANGELES - If Nicolas Cage (news) lights a cigarette in a movie, Hollywood's ratings board should respond as if he used a profanity, according to authors of a new study that criticizes glamorous images of smoking in movies rated for children under 17.

Nearly 80 percent of movies rated PG-13 feature some form of tobacco use, while 50 percent of G and PG rated films depict smoking, said Stanton Glantz, co-author of the study, which examined 775 U.S. movies over the past five years.

"No one is saying there should never be any smoking in the movies," Glantz, a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, said Tuesday at a press conference at Hollywood High School. "What we're simply asking for is that smoking be treated by Hollywood as seriously as it treats offensive language."

He'd like to see more PG-13 movies that feature smoking — like "Matchstick Men," "Seabiscuit" and the Oscar-winning "Chicago" — get slapped with an R rating.

Since R-rated films typically earn less money because they are not open to most teenagers, Glantz said he hoped such a policy would discourage filmmakers from depicting unnecessary smoking, such as the nicotine-addicted worm aliens in "Men in Black."

The proposal includes an exception for historical figures who actually smoked as part of their public life, Glantz added. "For example, if they wanted to make a movie about Winston Churchill, they could show him with a cigar without triggering an R-rating, but the number of movies where that actually happens is very small."

The study was funded by the charitable foundation The Richard and Rhoda Goldman Fund and the National Cancer Institute (news - web sites).

Glantz singled out The Walt Disney Co. for smoking in the PG-rated "Holes" and G-rated "102 Dalmatians," Time Warner for its PG "Secondhand Lions" and "What a Girl Wants" and Sony Pictures Entertainment for its PG "Master of Disguise."

The Motion Picture Association of America, which rates films, did not immediately return calls for comment on the study or the ratings proposal.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pufflist; smoking; smokingbans
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To: RonHolzwarth
I thought any sexual activity portrayed on the screen gave a film an R or X rating,,, or did I miss something?

Maybe if the act itself is portrayed on screen. I'm talking about the mere reference to it.

41 posted on 03/09/2004 5:00:41 PM PST by autopsy
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To: Carry_Okie
Look who's here....
42 posted on 03/09/2004 5:23:35 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Prodigal Son
So, we should rate all movies depicting actors eating should be rated R.

Let's just make all movies rated R. Except some of the cartoons.

43 posted on 03/09/2004 5:29:49 PM PST by Seth1 (Stop plate tectonics!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
Seeing as Drummond Pike is so busy, maybe I can snooker him into funding me? :-p
44 posted on 03/09/2004 5:40:46 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Prodigal Son
Let me through you a curve ball. What if I say that I want every motion picture that depicts a black person to be rated R?

My question to you would be why? And if you answered because of their % of the whole population, I'd tell you that you were crazy, because most of the people in the movies are beautiful people, and I am pretty sure they represent an even smaller % of the whole population.

As for smoking, when I grew up, smoking was for adults. A lot of adults will smoke in front of kids, but I didn't like to. I didn't like encouraging kids, through my example, to do something that I think is bad to do. I was smoking for many years just because I couldn't stop.

So to me, smoking is a beat scene, man. And if someone wants to say depictions are rated R, ok. Just let folks know if that's the reason it's r. THey have ratings on direct tv that tell you the specific causes for the rating, so you know if it's nudity, or violence, or language, or all of the above. So add smoking. What's the big deal? How about pot smoking? Should that not get an R?

45 posted on 03/09/2004 5:41:59 PM PST by Seth1 (Stop plate tectonics!!!)
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To: autopsy
Then the same standard should apply to homosexuality.

I totally agree.

I would assume the premise is that youth is impressionable, therefore should not be exposed to smoking, violence, offensive language, sexual content, etc. Yet every time I turn on the TV I am exposed to things like the "Madonna-Brittany kiss", Queer-eye for the straight guy, etc. etc. Somehow the leftists think that is acceptable. My solution: I just don't turn on the TV anymore.

46 posted on 03/09/2004 6:10:47 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: swarthyguy
I'm sending money to PETA and some of the most liberal groups I can find.

Whatever. But I wouldn't advertise it on FR.

47 posted on 03/09/2004 7:21:20 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: swarthyguy
Having fun? Or is there a point apart from your glee.

Some other poster replied to me that he would rather go to France. Are you against him being informed?

48 posted on 03/09/2004 7:24:24 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: swarthyguy
Oh that was you! Are you still going to France?
49 posted on 03/09/2004 7:27:00 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Seth1
How about depictions of people voting for a democrat? That is demonstrably much more dangerous than smoking could ever be.

Depicting a democrat on screen should earn it an X.

Liberalism kills.
50 posted on 03/10/2004 3:39:58 AM PST by Prodigal Son (Liberal ideas are deadlier than second hand smoke.)
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To: In_25_words_or_less
"No one is saying there should never be any smoking in the movies," Glantz, a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, said Tuesday at a press conference at Hollywood High School. "What we're simply asking for is that smoking be treated by Hollywood as seriously as it treats offensive language."

I'd be fascinated to hear "San Francisco" Glantz's views on gay marriage & the health effects of the gay lifestyle, wouldn't you? ;-)

51 posted on 03/10/2004 5:33:30 AM PST by an amused spectator (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to be lied to by Democrats)
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To: an amused spectator
I'd be fascinated to hear "San Francisco" Glantz's views on gay marriage & the health effects of the gay lifestyle, wouldn't you? ;-)

Only if there is money in it for him.......Glantz once told a group of anti-smoker activists that being an anti-smoker activists lets people like him keep paying his mortgage.

52 posted on 03/10/2004 5:50:56 AM PST by Gabz (The tobacco industry doesn't pay cigarette taxes - smokers do!)
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To: In_25_words_or_less
I marvel at how the libs can always play both sides of any issue. Movies have no influence on impressionable young minds when it comes to sexual permissivness in movies, yet when it's their pet issue, then what's on that screen has a major impact.
53 posted on 03/10/2004 6:01:35 AM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: FrdmLvr
The selectivity is amazing isn't it?

Besides conservatism/Republicanism, smoking is the only of Mencken's hobgoblins they have left with which to menace the populace.

54 posted on 03/10/2004 9:46:32 AM PST by In_25_words_or_less
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To: an amused spectator
I'd be fascinated to hear "San Francisco" Glantz's views on gay marriage & the health effects of the gay lifestyle, wouldn't you? ;-)

Yes. I'd like to hear the explanation as to how they are "totally different issues."

55 posted on 03/10/2004 9:48:45 AM PST by In_25_words_or_less
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To: *puff_list; Gabz; CSM; SheLion; Conspiracy Guy
Puff

Did you guys see this one?

56 posted on 03/10/2004 10:07:55 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
What type of public outcry would there be if anyone dared attack the alcohol industry like they have the tobacco industry? But then who would sponsor boxing, Nascar, Hydroplane races, etc? I am so sick of this crusade. I don't know of many movies where someone isn't drinking. Have yet to see an entire family wiped out on the highway by a driver due to smoking, but there have been two fatal accidents in two days in my city due to drinking & driving.
57 posted on 03/10/2004 10:20:20 AM PST by magnumsgirl (Welcome to America...........now speak English)
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To: In_25_words_or_less
What a hoot.

CG
58 posted on 03/10/2004 10:23:48 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Of course I'm armed. Isn't everyone?)
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To: In_25_words_or_less
"No one is saying there should never be any smoking in the movies,"

Well, not yet anyway. We must make sure to stick to our incremental plan, ninny glantz added!
59 posted on 03/10/2004 10:27:30 AM PST by CSM (Theft is immoral, taxation is government endorsed theft!)
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To: FrdmLvr
You want consistency, try a loaf of bread.
60 posted on 03/10/2004 10:31:40 AM PST by swarthyguy
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