Pistol under pillow shoots sleeping man

Washington Times ^ | apr. 3 | unknown

[dogbrain]

A man in Granite Falls, Wash., who slept with a pistol beneath his pillow woke up one morning last week to find the gun had gone off and shot him.

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported Saturday that the man, who was not identified, went to bed Thursday night with a loaded .22-caliber revolved tucked under his pistol. Sometime during the night, the gun discharged and shot him in the chest, but he apparently didn't realize he was wounded until he awoke early Friday.

[AnAmericanMother]

I would haul out my old Webley Army revolver in .455 before I would rely on a .22. It has occasionally done the job, but that's not the way to bet.

Besides, with the ugly old Webley if I run out of ammo I can use the piece as a highly effective blunt instrument.

Only a mother could love this ugly thang.

[AnAmericanMother]

Great minds apparently travel the same channels. See post above. Even the Ugly Webley is a semi-auto revolver: one pull of the trigger = one round fired. Right? :-D

Maybe trying to figure that out'll make Feinschwein's head go round so fast that she'll go into low earth orbit.

[AnAmericanMother]

One of our local judges, originally a Superior Court judge in Early County and later a Supreme Court justice, was known as "Judge Two-Gun Charlie Worrill" because he presided with two loaded .44 revolvers, one of which he used for a gavel.

He was also a former Texas Ranger and Industrial League baseball umpire (the latter profession having an even shorter life expectancy than being a Ranger.) Needless to say, there was beautiful, serene, uninterrupted order in his court.

[VadeRetro]

I know the Berretta M9 has a larger capacity why why did it replace the much more powerful Colt .45 in the US Army?

The main excuse at the time was so we could share ammo with our metric NATO allies. Probably a mistake, except not that many people wind up getting shot with pistol ammo anyway. The Italians limped through WWII with a .380 Beretta as the "standard" sidearm.

[Shooter 2.5]

The Webley-Fosbery really was a Semi-Automatic revolver. It was a pull of the trigger causing the shot to be fired with the recoil turning the cylinder at the same time resetting the hammer.

[VadeRetro]

The Webley-Fosbery really was a Semi-Automatic revolver. It was a pull of the trigger causing the shot to be fired with the recoil turning the cylinder at the same time resetting the hammer.

In The Maltese Falcon, Sam Spade's partner, Miles Archer, gets blown down a hillside with a Webley Fosbery aimed by Bridgette O'Shaunessy. Spade, shown the big hog leg of a revolver found at the scene, says, "Webly Fosbury forty-five auto. They don't make 'em anymore."

I was wondering if that was a mistake or perhaps the Webley was chambered for the .45 ACP round. You've just answered my question. Neither. It wasn't .45 ACP, but it was a semi-auto and a revolver.

[4x4x4]

zzzzzzzzzzzz... bang...zzzzzzzzz

[Shooter 2.5]

Right, but we can excuse Spade for saying .45 when he could have said .455.

After all, he didn't say ACP or .451 which is the true diameter of my 45 Autos.

[AnAmericanMother]

Actually, quite a number of the old Webley .455s that GIs brought back from WWII were bored out to take .45 ACP rounds, held in place with half moon clips.

You actually have to be a little careful when shopping for a .455 Webley (assuming you would want such an ugly thing and want to go to the trouble of finding the ammo) that it hasn't been bored out.

Much of the .455 ammo still circulating is Berdan primed and can't be reloaded, but there's an outfit in the upper midwest that sells new brass turned down from .45 Long Colt. In addition to trimming the case, they grind down the rim until it's thin enough to fit. The cases have slightly thicker walls than the originals, which will mess up your loading data (start with mild loads!) but once you get that straightened out they are great.

[VadeRetro]

I'm just realizing how that bizarre thing works. The whole top half blows back with the recoil, and some kind of projecting tooth engages that zigzag track to spin the cylinder. Never seen anything like it!

[AnAmericanMother]

The Webley-Fosbery IIRC was really an experiment -- I don't believe it was ever officially adopted (could be wrong about that though). They are very rare and VERY expensive assuming you can find one on the market.

I don't know if anyone ever converted one to .45 ACP, but I suppose it could have happened. Lord knows there are enough of the regular ones floating around.

[AnAmericanMother]

One of the reasons it wasn't adopted (or never became popular) was the unreliability of the pawl mechanism for advancing the cylinder. Of course production costs were the main problem.

Continuing to use a top break system just shows how folks have trouble thinking outside the box.

[VadeRetro]

Actually, quite a number of the old Webley .455s that GIs brought back from WWII were bored out to take .45 ACP rounds, held in place with half moon clips.

So it may have even been a true .45 Auto as in .45 ACP, although that's a 1941 movie.

I don't think there's any danger of me wanted to buy one of those just yet, although I bought an old Lee Enfield on an impulse like that. You see a piece of history on sale going begging ...

[VadeRetro]

I can see where reliability issues would enter. Probably doesn't field strip like a 1911 either.

[Shooter 2.5]

I can't spend anymore time on this until I get back for lunch but it was issued to the Royal Naval Air Service. Manufacturing was from 1901 to 1924 according to one book.

[Shooter 2.5]

My Mateba is the replacement. Interchangeable barrels from the six o'clock position.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Revolvers/Mateba_Model_6.htm

[Myrddin]

When I fire ten times and leave one hole, that's the story I use too. ;)

Seriously, I can make a single ragged hole at 100 yards with my Savage 10FV in .223...scoped and bagged. I took my Ruger 10/22 to the indoor range to try out a new set of Williams Firesight/peeps. It was only a 25 yard indoor range. I had 3 of 5 in the same hole. The other 2 rounds cut the edge of the main hole. Why so bad? Ask the goof with the beer gut in the adjacent stall. He slammed that puppy on the shelf and wiggled the tables all the way down.

[Bonny Dick]

"violated the fellow's civil rights"

Black guy?

[Chinese_American_Patriot]

Yes, unfortunately cops & feds are only issued ball ammo. I am mainly referring to standard .22 or .38 special ball ammo because I know the deadly power of the more souped up cartridges like JHP and the standard ball is commonly used by criminals.

[AnAmericanMother]

I refuse to answer on the grounds that the PC police might go round and harass my dad. :-D

(they would get more than they bargained for, he's pretty cantankerous, but that's another story.)