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L. Ron Hubbard has better lobbyists than God
TownHall.com ^
| Wednesday, April 7, 2004
| by Ben Shapiro
Posted on 04/06/2004 10:14:06 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:15:51 PM PDT
by
Support Free Republic
(I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
To: JohnHuang2
This if the first I have ever heard about this.....
its just mind-numbing that this has been going on all this time.....
I have always thought that Scienctology was a scheme to hide money, and now I know I am right....
the Greta's of the world and the Travolta's have been laughing at us....while they launder their millions thru their "religion" and then get it back via back channels......
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:28:11 PM PDT
by
cherry
To: cherry
they launder their millions thru their "religion" and then get it back via back channels...... Doubtfull. The clam's grift is'nt working as well as it used to. Hollywood suckers are still suckers.
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posted on
04/06/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT
by
Dinsdale
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To: JohnHuang2
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:00:22 PM PDT
by
Prime Choice
(Leftists claim Bush is a terrorist. So why aren't they trying to appease him?)
To: JohnHuang2
How many donations to Hillary did it take for this rip off ?
To: JohnHuang2
OK class, do we now understand why Hollywood supported Clinton unreservedly?
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:04:08 PM PDT
by
ikka
thetan is L. Ron's word for soulsSay it without the lisp and get a clue what Ron practiced in his earlier years...
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:07:58 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
To: D-fendr
FWIW, Hubbard considered Alastair Crowley his mentor and "spiritual" guide. Crowley called himself a "witch" or warlock, practiced God knows what kind of satanic rituals, and was a pederast.
Scientology is weird, rotten, evil s**t. Did you know a big street in Hollywood got renamed in Hubbard's honor? Lots of Hollywood bigwigs are Scientologists.
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:14:43 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
To: little jeremiah
What makes it such a perfect religion for Hollywood is that there is nothing in the least about love or self-sacrifice or giving or humility about it. It is about becoming a god. It is about ME, ME, ME, ME, ME. It is about a kind of Scientologist mafia that looks out for each other and can be a source of useful connections.
To: little jeremiah
Lots of Hollywood bigwigs are Scientologists.In there defense (if you can call it that), they are mere dupes. Hubbard created a special program for them, for PR. It's a Potemkin Scientology.
Celebrities are only shown a country club view of Scientology - special facilities, etc. The horrors are hidden from them.
Travolta and Kirstie Alley aren't exactly mental giants.
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:27:05 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
To: D-fendr
Say it without the lisp and get a clue what Ron practiced in his earlier years... YOW! After all my time in that, ummmm, organization I never caught that one!
BTW the real problem with upper level auditing is that at some point (fairly early) you run out of body thetans that are stuck to you and start creating ones to audit.
Unfortunately these created beings are evil and insane, and are shed off into the environment.
I'm not blaming $cientology for everything, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the world has been on an accelerating downward spiral since OT III was released.
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:34:24 PM PDT
by
null and void
(John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
To: cherry
the Greta's of the world and the Travolta's have been laughing at us....while they launder their millions thru their "religion" and then get it back via back channels...... Clearly you have never tried to get money OUT of a $cientology church.
It can be done, I've done it myself, but it is very difficult.
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:36:15 PM PDT
by
null and void
(John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
To: JohnHuang2
[ L. Ron Hubbard has better lobbyists than God ]
Which God ?
A real God doesnt have or need lobbyists.. as far as I can see. Unless hes a psuedo-God.
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:39:55 PM PDT
by
hosepipe
To: null and void
thanks for your reply.
Hope you don't mind me asking, how hard was it for you to get out?
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posted on
04/06/2004 11:44:22 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
To: null and void
I had absolutely NO Idea that Scientology was thaaat weird. I knew it was not on the up and up after a chance visit we made to one of their churches(?) in Washington D.C. We were walking by and out of curiosity went inside. We asked if it was a "Christian" religion, they hemmed and hawed and basically would not say. We took that as a default "no". What convinced us that it was really a scam was a picture we saw on the wall that showed the different levels of Scientology and at the top of the pyramid was a cruise ship. When you reached the highest level you got to take a cruise with the others who were at the "top" My husband and I left shaking our heads wondering how much money people had to pay into that organization to get a one week trip on the cruise ship. Thanks for posting this article it is indeed fascinating.
To: JohnHuang2
Scammintology is a cult operated as an on-going, organized, criminal enterprise that should be shut down immediately, its assets siezed, and its leaders thrown in prison. Even a cursory examination of this scam shows it to be at least a bad joke masquerading as a religion used for the purposes of enriching its leaders. Anyone who thinks otherwise has either not looked into it sufficiently or is obviously brainwashed and not responsible for their actions.
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posted on
04/07/2004 12:03:42 AM PDT
by
agitator
(...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
To: D-fendr
Hard. The worst part was I had been in so long I'd lost nearly all of my nonscientology friends, It was a big step into nothingness!
The most difficult part was coming to the decision to leave. Management had recently changed, and I very clearly did not like the new regime. Many people left in the same time frame I did, that helped.
It's not easy to walk away from what you believe is a road to salvation. For me it was eased a bit by my reaching a point where my goals diverged from the ones "The Bridge" lead to.
Overall, I would rate it as an important part of my life. I learned a great deal about myself and a way of looking at how the world works that is internally consistent, and allows some level of prediction of people's actions.
If I had it all to do over again, I probably would study scientology again, but not for as long, and more at arm's length!
Recovering my money on account was a MAJOR pain, but worth doing as a matter of principle. I didn't pursue getting back the money actually used on services, figuring that I'd gotten enough of value to call it even.
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posted on
04/07/2004 12:04:13 AM PDT
by
null and void
(John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
To: agitator
I second that !
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posted on
04/07/2004 12:05:30 AM PDT
by
countrydummy
(http://chat.agitator.dynip.com)
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