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L. Ron Hubbard has better lobbyists than God
TownHall.com ^ | Wednesday, April 7, 2004 | by Ben Shapiro

Posted on 04/06/2004 10:14:06 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

It turns out that liberals are right. For years now, the American government has established state religion. No, it's not evangelical Christianity. It's Scientology.

Because of a 1993 secret deal with the Internal Revenue Service, members of L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology are allowed to write off costly Scientologist "auditing" and "training" services as charitable gift deductions. Anyone who sends their child to religious school, however, is banned from writing off tuition.

What exactly are Scientologists writing off? Thousands of dollars worth of pure baloney. As authors Andrew Breitbart and Mark Ebner detail in their fascinating book, "Hollywood, Interrupted," Scientology itself is a load of psychedelic babble, and an expensive load at that. It costs over $300,000 to reach the top levels of this cult. "Auditing" -- the service that the IRS allows Scientologists to write off -- is a method of purging "thetans."

Breitbart and Ebner describe what thetans are: "Over 75 million years ago, in a universe far, far away, evil alien overlord Xenu captured all the rebel souls by calling them in for tax auditing and, after injecting them with a mixture of glycol and alcohol, they were transported in B-1 bombers to earth and flung into volcanoes. Then the volcanoes were exploded with neutron bombs. The souls of these immolated aliens, called body thetans (thetan is L. Ron's word for souls), now cling to us like nasty body lice, through reincarnation after reincarnation, and can only be removed through hours of auditing at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars."

Once members have completely cleared themselves of thetans, they become all-powerful, according to Scientology: They "can now create life; they can create universes; they have cause over matter, energy, space and time; and they are free of the bonds of the physical -- functioning totally on the spiritual."

So these devout science-fiction fans are being subsidized by the federal government. It's a good thing George Lucas hasn't set up a church -- yet. Meanwhile, Americans who pay thousands of dollars to teach their children Judeo-Christian morality are forced to pay taxes on their tuition dollars.

This blatant injustice prompted orthodox Jewish accountant Michael Sklar and his wife, Marla, to file a lawsuit against the IRS, claiming that the Scientology deal establishes religion. "Our position is, if you allow them to deduct what they're paying for, their religious indoctrination, we should be able to get the same thing," Sklar told me.

When Sklar filed a similar lawsuit several years ago, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected his case but not before recognizing that Sklar had a valid point. The Circuit Court admitted that "it appears to be true" that Scientology's IRS agreement violated the First Amendment.

Sklar's current lawsuit should reach the U.S. Tax Court in late October or early November. While Sklar represented himself in the first lawsuit, he now has a pro bono lawyer. He won't be satisfied with a simple rejection of the Scientology agreement, though. "The government has now been doing this for 10 years, and if the only thing they would do is simply stop, the government would then have been giving a religious preference to a particular group for 10 years. There's nothing to stop it from trying to do it again."

Instead, Sklar wants the IRS to allow all people of every religious persuasion to write off religious education. "If the net result of this is that the only ones who are entitled to a religious deduction are the Scientologists and the Jews, I've really accomplished nothing. This really has to be for every religion in the book," he explains.

The idea of deducting religious education will surely provoke heavy opposition from the left. Many liberals feel that Sklar's proposed deductions would constitute state establishment of religion -- even if the state is allowing people of all religions to deduct. Judge Barry D. Silverman of the 9th Circuit, certainly feels that way. In the first Sklar case, he wrote: "The remedy is not to require the IRS to let others claim the improper deduction."

But the leftist argument that encouragement of religion in general establishes one religion in particular is fallacious. America was founded on religious tolerance and the freedom to observe religion without government encroachment. As John Adams stated, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

If our public schools have discarded Judeo-Christian ethics for the amorality of multiculturalism, Adams' America rests on those Americans who educate their children in private schools. If Sklar wins his case, perhaps some good can come from thetans after all.


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Wednesday, April 7, 2004

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1 posted on 04/06/2004 10:14:06 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 04/06/2004 10:15:51 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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To: JohnHuang2
This if the first I have ever heard about this.....

its just mind-numbing that this has been going on all this time.....

I have always thought that Scienctology was a scheme to hide money, and now I know I am right....

the Greta's of the world and the Travolta's have been laughing at us....while they launder their millions thru their "religion" and then get it back via back channels......

3 posted on 04/06/2004 10:28:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
they launder their millions thru their "religion" and then get it back via back channels......

Doubtfull. The clam's grift is'nt working as well as it used to. Hollywood suckers are still suckers.

4 posted on 04/06/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: JohnHuang2
Yet another sterling example of the "Clinton legacy."

The Church of Scientology is not run by nice people. Ask Lisa McPherson's family. Better still, check out http://www.xenu.net/ and http://www.lisamcpherson.org/ .
6 posted on 04/06/2004 11:00:22 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Leftists claim Bush is a terrorist. So why aren't they trying to appease him?)
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To: JohnHuang2
How many donations to Hillary did it take for this rip off ?
7 posted on 04/06/2004 11:02:37 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: JohnHuang2
OK class, do we now understand why Hollywood supported Clinton unreservedly?
8 posted on 04/06/2004 11:04:08 PM PDT by ikka
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thetan is L. Ron's word for souls

Say it without the lisp and get a clue what Ron practiced in his earlier years...

9 posted on 04/06/2004 11:07:58 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
FWIW, Hubbard considered Alastair Crowley his mentor and "spiritual" guide. Crowley called himself a "witch" or warlock, practiced God knows what kind of satanic rituals, and was a pederast.

Scientology is weird, rotten, evil s**t. Did you know a big street in Hollywood got renamed in Hubbard's honor? Lots of Hollywood bigwigs are Scientologists.
10 posted on 04/06/2004 11:14:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: little jeremiah
What makes it such a perfect religion for Hollywood is that there is nothing in the least about love or self-sacrifice or giving or humility about it. It is about becoming a god. It is about ME, ME, ME, ME, ME. It is about a kind of Scientologist mafia that looks out for each other and can be a source of useful connections.
11 posted on 04/06/2004 11:19:44 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: little jeremiah
Lots of Hollywood bigwigs are Scientologists.

In there defense (if you can call it that), they are mere dupes. Hubbard created a special program for them, for PR. It's a Potemkin Scientology.

Celebrities are only shown a country club view of Scientology - special facilities, etc. The horrors are hidden from them.

Travolta and Kirstie Alley aren't exactly mental giants.

12 posted on 04/06/2004 11:27:05 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
Say it without the lisp and get a clue what Ron practiced in his earlier years...

YOW! After all my time in that, ummmm, organization I never caught that one!

BTW the real problem with upper level auditing is that at some point (fairly early) you run out of body thetans that are stuck to you and start creating ones to audit.

Unfortunately these created beings are evil and insane, and are shed off into the environment.

I'm not blaming $cientology for everything, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the world has been on an accelerating downward spiral since OT III was released.

13 posted on 04/06/2004 11:34:24 PM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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To: cherry
the Greta's of the world and the Travolta's have been laughing at us....while they launder their millions thru their "religion" and then get it back via back channels......

Clearly you have never tried to get money OUT of a $cientology church.

It can be done, I've done it myself, but it is very difficult.

14 posted on 04/06/2004 11:36:15 PM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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To: JohnHuang2
[ L. Ron Hubbard has better lobbyists than God ]

Which God ?
A real God doesnt have or need lobbyists.. as far as I can see. Unless hes a psuedo-God.

15 posted on 04/06/2004 11:39:55 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: null and void
thanks for your reply.

Hope you don't mind me asking, how hard was it for you to get out?
16 posted on 04/06/2004 11:44:22 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: null and void
I had absolutely NO Idea that Scientology was thaaat weird. I knew it was not on the up and up after a chance visit we made to one of their churches(?) in Washington D.C. We were walking by and out of curiosity went inside. We asked if it was a "Christian" religion, they hemmed and hawed and basically would not say. We took that as a default "no". What convinced us that it was really a scam was a picture we saw on the wall that showed the different levels of Scientology and at the top of the pyramid was a cruise ship. When you reached the highest level you got to take a cruise with the others who were at the "top" My husband and I left shaking our heads wondering how much money people had to pay into that organization to get a one week trip on the cruise ship. Thanks for posting this article it is indeed fascinating.
17 posted on 04/06/2004 11:56:40 PM PDT by OutInTheColdAgain
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To: JohnHuang2
Scammintology is a cult operated as an on-going, organized, criminal enterprise that should be shut down immediately, its assets siezed, and its leaders thrown in prison. Even a cursory examination of this scam shows it to be at least a bad joke masquerading as a religion used for the purposes of enriching its leaders. Anyone who thinks otherwise has either not looked into it sufficiently or is obviously brainwashed and not responsible for their actions.
18 posted on 04/07/2004 12:03:42 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: D-fendr
Hard. The worst part was I had been in so long I'd lost nearly all of my nonscientology friends, It was a big step into nothingness!

The most difficult part was coming to the decision to leave. Management had recently changed, and I very clearly did not like the new regime. Many people left in the same time frame I did, that helped.

It's not easy to walk away from what you believe is a road to salvation. For me it was eased a bit by my reaching a point where my goals diverged from the ones "The Bridge" lead to.

Overall, I would rate it as an important part of my life. I learned a great deal about myself and a way of looking at how the world works that is internally consistent, and allows some level of prediction of people's actions.

If I had it all to do over again, I probably would study scientology again, but not for as long, and more at arm's length!

Recovering my money on account was a MAJOR pain, but worth doing as a matter of principle. I didn't pursue getting back the money actually used on services, figuring that I'd gotten enough of value to call it even.

19 posted on 04/07/2004 12:04:13 AM PDT by null and void (John f'ing Kerry - More positions than the Kama Sutra...)
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I second that !
20 posted on 04/07/2004 12:05:30 AM PDT by countrydummy (http://chat.agitator.dynip.com)
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