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Greenland Ice Melt May Swamp LA, Other Cities
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Posted on 04/08/2004 3:04:59 PM PDT by GulliverSwift

Greenland's massive ice sheet could begin to melt this century and may disappear completely within the next thousand years if global warming continues at its present rate.

According to a new climate change study, the melting of Greenland's ice sheet would raise the oceans by seven meters (23 feet), threatening to submerge cities located at sea level, from London to Los Angeles.

Even a partial melting of the ice sheet could have catastrophic consequences for low-lying countries like Bangladesh and the Maldives.

"A one-meter [three-foot] sea level rise would submerge a substantial amount of Bangladesh," Jonathan Gregory, the study's lead author and a climate scientist at the University of Reading in England, said in a telephone interview.

Scientists have previously calculated that if the annual average temperature in Greenland increases by almost 3° Celsius (5.4° Fahrenheit), its ice sheet will begin to melt.

Many experts believe the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will have reached levels around the year 2100 that would cause the temperature to rise that much.

"We're not saying how long it will take to get to the three degrees or how long it will take to lose the ice sheet," Gregory said. "We're saying there's a high likelihood of passing this threshold of viability with the carbon dioxide levels that are currently being considered."

The research is described in this week's issue of the science journal Nature.

Global Warming

The issue of global warming is controversial. It's clear that, since the Industrial Revolution, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide have increased 30 percent, enhancing the heat-trapping capability of the atmosphere.

Scientists generally believe that the combustion of fossil fuels to run cars, heat homes, and power factories is the primary source for this increase in carbon dioxide levels.

In the absence of emissions control policies, the United States Environmental Protection Agency says carbon dioxide concentrations will be 30 to 150 percent higher than the current 370 parts per million (ppm) found today.

" Meanwhile, the global surface temperature increased 0.6° Celsius (1.8° Fahrenheit) in the last century. Oceans have become warmer, too, expanding while storing heat. This has caused sea levels to rise 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters) in the last hundred years.

While most scientists agree that higher greenhouse gas concentrations, particularly carbon dioxide, are causing global warming, a few scientists argue that atmospheric carbon dioxide levels may not be the only culprit, because they have remained relatively steady for the past 30 years.

Different Scenarios

At the present temperatures, about half of the snow that falls on Greenland melts and runs off as water. The rest of it stays and is discharged in the form of icebergs.

An increase of 3° Celsius (5.4° Fahrenheit) would change that equation, producing an increase in melting that will outweigh the increase in snowfall, according to Gregory.

"The warmer it gets, the more melting there is," he said. "You would also expect more precipitation, but most studies suggest that the increase in melting would be bigger. Beyond that threshold [of a 3° Celsius temperature increase], the ice sheet will likely not be viable and would just get smaller and smaller."

The study considered the climate sensitivity of a range of climate models and a range of carbon dioxide scenarios, from 450 parts per million, the lowest level considered by the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, to a thousand parts per million, or four times the pre-industrial carbon dioxide concentration.

"They demonstrate that a warming of about 3° Celsius for ongoing melting of the Greenland ice sheet is exceeded by 2100 for the majority of cases considered," said John Church, a climate scientist at the Australian government CSIRO Marine Research center in Hobart who was not involved in the study.

In the most extreme scenario, using a carbon dioxide level of 1,000 ppm, the study predicts temperatures to rise by 8° Celsius (18° Fahrenheit) by the year 2050. This, in turn, would raise sea levels by 7 meters (23 feet) in a thousand years.

"This is a high concentration, but it is within the range of scenarios that people have considered," Gregory said. "It's not a completely outrageous number."

Sinking Cities

If rising temperatures were to cause melting of Greenland's ice sheet, the process would be gradual. There's no evidence that the ice sheet would catastrophically disintegrate. Even the worst scenario is unlikely to alter the world map.

"If you were to raise the sea levels by seven meters [23 feet] and look at a map of the world, you probably wouldn't think it was startlingly [different]," Gregory said. "But of course many of the places where a lot of people live are close to sea level."

Many cities and communities along the U.S. Eastern Seaboard are at least partly below this level.

"Sea level rise has the potential to affect millions of people living in low-lying coastal regions, particularly the inhabitants of megacities developing on coasts around the world and those living on deltas of major rivers and small island nations," Church said.

Gregory and other scientists warn that even if the composition of the atmosphere could be reversed to pre-industrial conditions, the sea level rise could be irreversible. Once it's gone, the Greenland ice sheet is unlikely to be reestablished.

"Sea level represents one of the longer time scale responses found in the climate system," said Ronald J. Stouffer at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory in Princeton, New Jersey.

"It may not be possible to stop or reverse this process once it has been underway for a period of time, even though the climate returns to a relatively cool state," Stouffer said.

For more global warming news, scroll down for related stories and links.


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No LA? In the words of John Kerry (stole from Bush): Bring it on.

It may not be possible to stop or reverse this process once it has been underway for a period of time, even though the climate returns to a relatively cool state," Stouffer said.

But let's destroy people's jobs and get rid of industry just the same.

1 posted on 04/08/2004 3:05:00 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: GulliverSwift
As somebody who lives in the San Fernando Valley, I wish it would hurry up. Shorten my drive to the beach.
2 posted on 04/08/2004 3:08:01 PM PDT by Argus (Ceterum censeo Fallujam esse delendam.)
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3 posted on 04/08/2004 3:08:14 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
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To: GulliverSwift
The sky is falling, the sky is falling-I could learn to like there being no LA, though...
5 posted on 04/08/2004 3:10:26 PM PDT by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Argus
Dam Al gore he invented the internet all those cpus running 24/7 melting the ice caps way to go gore
6 posted on 04/08/2004 3:11:49 PM PDT by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
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To: Argus
Lets tell all those funny people living there it's just another public bath house. Maybe free lead slippers would sell also.

7 posted on 04/08/2004 3:12:32 PM PDT by chachacha
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To: JackRyanCIA
I take it from your screen name that you lock the Clancy books. I read that one from I think 1997 where Ben Affleck becomes president :)

Did Clancy make any Ryan-president books after that one, Executive Orders?

8 posted on 04/08/2004 3:12:48 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Keep the <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">gigolo</a> out of the White House!)
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To: Argus
As somebody who lives in the San Fernando Valley, I wish it would hurry up. Shorten my drive to the beach.

Come to think of it, that Mulholland overpass on the 405 would make a great fishing spot.

9 posted on 04/08/2004 3:12:50 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Because Democrats are liars, they assume Republicans are too...)
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To: Texan5
Yeah, then Texas could take the title of illegal alien capital of America.
10 posted on 04/08/2004 3:15:08 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ErnBatavia
First its global warming. then its an instant ice age...
What is it?! You think these people would get their act together...

I heard one guy say BOTH would happen.
11 posted on 04/08/2004 3:15:25 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: GulliverSwift
"...Greenland's massive ice sheet could begin to melt this century
and may disappear completely within the next thousand years
if global warming continues at its present rate..."
12 posted on 04/08/2004 3:15:48 PM PDT by DefCon
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Greenland Ice Melt May Swamp LA, Other Cities

And when it doesn't? Then what? Blanket apologies to civilization from the phony "scientists" who make up this garbage? Humble acts of contrition, up to and including ritual disembowelment? A promise to base any future "scientific" predictions on something other than a political agenda?

Nah. More of the same.

13 posted on 04/08/2004 3:16:31 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Cyclops08
Whatever it is, it's the WASP nazi conservatives' fault.
14 posted on 04/08/2004 3:16:45 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Keep the <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">gigolo</a> out of the White House!)
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To: GulliverSwift
What's the bad news?
15 posted on 04/08/2004 3:16:45 PM PDT by Moonman62
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To: Cyclops08
Maybe I should mint a special edition: "End of the World Collectable Coins."
16 posted on 04/08/2004 3:17:01 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: GulliverSwift
I love the stupidity of these people. The place is named Greenland because at the time of the Vikings, about 650 years ago, the place was green from all the rolling plains, otherwise it would have been named whiteland.
Then moving forward in time to just 60 years ago, Greenland was used as a refueling base for aircraft headed to Europe during World War II. The thing that these people can't explain is why a airplane that crash landed 60 years ago, and was on the surface then was recovered in 12 years ago 272 feet below the surface of the ice. And I thought that global warming started back in the 1920s or 1930s.
17 posted on 04/08/2004 3:17:12 PM PDT by Wooly
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To: GulliverSwift
there is a bunch WWII bombers under, last i heard, over 40 feet of ice/snow. after that melts we will be back to the early 40s ice wise. when they "fly" those out wake me up
18 posted on 04/08/2004 3:17:54 PM PDT by camas
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To: GulliverSwift
...and the problem is?
19 posted on 04/08/2004 3:18:02 PM PDT by COURAGE
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Maybe, but my money would be on Arizona or New Mexico-more and higher mountains to hide in...
20 posted on 04/08/2004 3:19:14 PM PDT by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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