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Don't Be Surprised When Iraqi WMD Found (Rush)
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 20, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/20/2004 5:23:18 PM PDT by Bayou City

Don't Be Surprised When Iraqi WMD Found

April 20, 2004

I don't know if you heard about this, because it has not been widely reported. Terrorists linked to Al-Qaeda were poised to detonate a chemical bomb in the heart of Amman, Jordan, that would have killed 20,000 people and contaminated a large area. King Abdullah praised Jordan's intelligence service for foiling a crime never before seen in the kingdom of Jordan. The target was a headquarters of the general intelligence department on a hill in Amman.

King Abdullah was to be in America to meet with President Bush, but decided not to come because of this threat. Where this story gets interesting is that King Abdullah of Jordan says that the vehicles carrying these explosives, the chemical bomb, were smuggled over the border from neighboring Syria. Syria is denying this, but these are weapons of mass destruction.

Syria is a transit point for weapons of mass destruction. The whole subject of where are the weapons of mass destruction remains a focal point of mine. It remains an area of heightened curiosity, because I do not believe that they have been destroyed. I do not believe that Iraq never had them. I think Iraq had them. I think Iraq was working on them. I don't think the world's intelligence agencies are as woefully incompetent and bad and inept as the whole weapons of mass destruction issue would lead us to believe.

There are some things missing from buildings in Iraq, and there's too much speculation out there about how some of this stuff can be miniaturized and transported out of the country easily. Syria is an obvious place, and many people I respect have pointed to the Bekaa Valley as a place as well. We're not going to invade Syria any time soon to find out, but this is the second example of weapons of mass destruction-type coming out of Syria.

Now, they had to get to Syria somehow. I just want to keep your mind open to the possibility that these weapons of mass destruction from Iraq are somewhere, and they've not been destroyed. They haven't just vanished into the ether, and I'm going to make a prediction to you that all of the liberals and critics of the president who have harped on this and jumped on this have once again jumped the gun. They are a little premature here because we don't know yet what, if anything, did happen to those weapons of mass destruction, despite knowing that they did exist. So keep your hats on and don't be surprised down the road what is learned at some point.

Yellow cake uranium has been found at junk yards in Rotterdam and that's exactly what Iraq was looking for. This stuff could have been disbursed over the years to any number of places, and if you think that an Al-Qaeda related group is going to blow up Amman, Jordan with weapons that were procured from Syria, if you think that Al-Qaeda is not related to what all was going on in Iraq, and the Middle East, then you are engaged in blindness or wishful thinking. That is the position of the left, and that's why they can't be trusted to be placed in a leadership position.

Read the Articles...

(CNN: Jordan 'thwarts massive attack')
('UK Telegraph: Al-Qa'eda plot would have killed 20,000')
(NewsMax: King Abdullah: Al Qaeda WMDs Came From Syria)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; iraq; jordan; rush; wmd
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To: Maximilian
Max, you've joined the tinfoilers, and the Jersey Girls, in thinking that we should have been able to scramble aircraft on 9/11, when, in fact, nobody knew what was happening.

Please. Don't become a Raimondoite. You will marginalize yourself right off this forum.

181 posted on 04/20/2004 8:58:18 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: nutmeg
And based on facts too.
182 posted on 04/20/2004 8:58:22 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: Maximilian
Hitler hated Stalin, and vice versa as well. Guess what? They worked together for a while... I'm sure much of Eastern Europe remembers all about it....
183 posted on 04/20/2004 8:58:43 PM PDT by Skywarner (Enjoying freedom? Thank a Veteran!)
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To: narses
"Ask him his opinion of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. His answer will tell you all that you need to know."

I can only begin to imagine... Yes, Maxi, tell us more.
184 posted on 04/20/2004 8:59:54 PM PDT by Skywarner (Enjoying freedom? Thank a Veteran!)
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To: Jorge
We KNOW Saddam had WMD. The only question is where they are now.

Tell that to the liberal ninnies like my friends, who think that I'm naive for waiting before making sweeping statements like, "There never were any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."

185 posted on 04/20/2004 9:00:39 PM PDT by The Grammarian (The Seraph of Syntax)
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To: Chunga
This one is definitely a sleeper. I nailed one like him/her? last evening, the great ZOT came down from the heavens and rid this forum of another TROLL. When they reveal their true colors, they don't last long during these times of war and evil.
186 posted on 04/20/2004 9:00:59 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Snipers love terrorists, they POP when you "cook 'em")
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To: sinkspur
Max, you've joined the tinfoilers, and the Jersey Girls, in thinking that we should have been able to scramble aircraft on 9/11, when, in fact, nobody knew what was happening.

Wait a second. Isn't our national defense system supposed to be able to scramble a plane within 5 - 10 minutes anytime a plane is hijacked for any reason? Shouldn't all 4 of those planes have had fighter escorts long before they reached their targets? We didn't need to know that it was Islamic fanatics on board. (But in fact we did. The airlines had the names available before they hit the WTC.) Just the fact that the planes were hijacked should have sent the system into action immediately. Where was our defense when we were actually under attack?

187 posted on 04/20/2004 9:01:42 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: The Grammarian
Tell that to the liberal ninnies like my friends, who think that I'm naive for waiting before making sweeping statements like, "There never were any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."

Guess they missed the pictures of thousands of women and children lying dead in the streets of towns Saddam wiped out by his poison gas attacks.

Your liberal friends are really uniformed.

188 posted on 04/20/2004 9:04:39 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: armyboy
My opinion is take the troops out and send in the nukes to finish the job.

That should have happened at 8:45 AM Eastern time on 9/12/01.

189 posted on 04/20/2004 9:06:18 PM PDT by ASA Vet (It will take a few more major hits here at home before we decide on war.)
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To: Jorge
Your liberal friends are really uniformed.

Uniformed? Or uninformed? Or both?

Their argument would be that it doesn't matter what Saddam "did" have, but that he doesn't/didn't as of the time of our invasion.

190 posted on 04/20/2004 9:06:46 PM PDT by The Grammarian (The Seraph of Syntax)
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To: Maximilian
:Isn't our national defense system supposed to be able to scramble a plane within 5 - 10 minutes anytime a plane is hijacked for any reason?"

Do you also have an official source for this one?? I am still waiting for your official source in regards to your previous statement that no air cover was in the air for several hours after the 9/11 attacks...

Again, I ask you, were those two F-16's on afterburner that I saw peeling overhead that morning at about 9:20am just a figment of my imagination? Your earlier statement infers that they were.

This exchange is beginning to grow tiresome - I can smell some ZOT! in the air. ;-)
191 posted on 04/20/2004 9:07:09 PM PDT by Skywarner (Enjoying freedom? Thank a Veteran!)
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To: Maximilian
Isn't our national defense system supposed to be able to scramble a plane within 5 - 10 minutes anytime a plane is hijacked for any reason? Shouldn't all 4 of those planes have had fighter escorts long before they reached their targets?

No, and no.

Just the fact that the planes were hijacked should have sent the system into action immediately. Where was our defense when we were actually under attack?

Nobody knew we were under "attack".

The Jersey Girls would love to have you on their side.

You'll be lonely over there, however, with their hysterics.

Calm down, and stop looking at 9/11 with 9/12 eyes.

192 posted on 04/20/2004 9:07:10 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: DestroytheDemocrats
Remember the deal? After 9/11 Bush said, "If you harbor terrorists we are coming after you."

If that's the case, then why didn't we go after Egypt and Saudi Arabia? All of the identified hijackers came from those 2 countries. Apparently they were harboring terrorists. But we didn't attack them. Instead we attacked Iraq which had nothing whatsoever to do with 911.

Now we have to stay so the Taliban does not come back and allow for the training of terrorists who will come and kill us. We have no choice.

So America is going to stay in Afghanistan forever, to make sure the Taliban doesn't return? Are we going to stay in every country of the world to make sure that terrorists never form anywhere?

They can pick who they choose but if they mess with us we have to deal with them in various ways appropriate to each situation. Just because we can't go after ALL the evil leaders in this world that are screwing up the world and screwing with us does not mean we can't go after SOME of them.

So how did we choose Iraq? They would be the least likely country in the Middle East if their support for Islamic fundamentalism and harboring of terrorists were the criteria we were using.

193 posted on 04/20/2004 9:08:29 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Jorge
Your liberal friends are really uniformed.

Just like the Soviet army.

194 posted on 04/20/2004 9:08:57 PM PDT by Chunga (.)
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To: The Grammarian
"Their argument would be that it doesn't matter what Saddam "did" have, but that he doesn't/didn't as of the time of our invasion."

I had a liberal coworker of mine try this argument with me - once.

I asked him if Hitler had been able to complete his insidious 'final solution' and kill of all of the Jews and anyone else not part of the 1000 year reich, should the world have just stopped WWII then and left the madman alone? That response stopped him dead in his tracks... He thought about it for the rest of the day. Now, he thinks we should stay the course in Iraq.

That's one converted...
195 posted on 04/20/2004 9:14:45 PM PDT by Skywarner (Enjoying freedom? Thank a Veteran!)
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To: Maximilian
Before you make such outlandish assumptions and take the liberty of stating them as facts, it would be helpful if you knew something about what you are talking about beforehand.

To begin with, there was no protocol for the Air force to immediately scramble fighters in the event of a Civilian Aircraft hijacking. The only protocol in place at the time was that fighters give escort to Government transport aircraft like Air force One, etc...

There was also, no indication that terrorists were planning on crashing the aircraft into the Twin Towers. By the time the Air force was ordered to scramble, the towers were already hit and it was after the fact.

Lastly, here you go again trying to stir up your usual hyperbole, as if you have a need to go against the grain. In my Military years, we had a way of dealing with people like you. We called it a "blanket" party. Looks like you need one of those.......

196 posted on 04/20/2004 9:17:49 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Snipers love terrorists, they POP when you "cook 'em")
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To: DestroytheDemocrats
"And the majority of Afghans are glad we are there. We helped those people. They had little or nothing and we liberated them. You should be proud. What in world is wrong with your head?"

Maxi has Democrat Disease. The Dems never did have the stomach to fight against slavery. Dems don't have compassion, that's why they favor allowing the brutality of abortion and against allowing the urban poor access to the opportunities in parochial schools.

197 posted on 04/20/2004 9:18:03 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him. Nixon expressed him home. And Kerry's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

198 posted on 04/20/2004 9:20:42 PM PDT by Born Conservative (It really sucks when your 15 minutes of fame comes AFTER you're gone...)
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To: Skywarner
Again, I ask you, were those two F-16's on afterburner that I saw peeling overhead that morning at about 9:20am just a figment of my imagination?

That's more than one hour after the hijacking:

8:13:31 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 last transmission from Boston Air Traffic Control: AAL11 turn 20 degrees right American Airlines Flight 11 responds: 20 right AAL11.

A few seconds later the Controller asks: AAL11 now climb maintain FL350 [35,000 feet] Controller: AAL11 climb maintain FL350 Controller: AAL11 Boston. There is no response from American Airlines Flight 11. 11) 8:14 to 8:20 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 goes off course and is hijacked.

8:21 a.m.: Betty Ong, a flight attendant on American Airlines Flight 11, calls Vanessa Minter at American Airlines reservations from the seatback phone. "She said two flight attendants had been stabbed, one was on oxygen," said the manager on duty. "A passenger had his throat slashed and looked dead and they had gotten into the cockpit." She identifies the seats of the hijackers and confirms that the plane is descending.


199 posted on 04/20/2004 9:21:39 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Whatever a neo-con is.. wasn't it a word Gephart made up? So "neo-cons" are evil for proactivly defending the US against terrorists? But, looking at your further posts, you attack US policy in Bosnia/Kosovo so Clinton would be a "despot" by those standards. So is Clinton a neo-con?

Was there self-defense in Kosovo? I thought I was asking about fighting terrorists. Did you lose something or someone in Kosovo? You seem fixed on it and the KLA. No, there was no direct threat Serbia posed to the US. However, due to the nature of Milosovic, the civil war in the former Yugoslavia, and the nature of European wars revolving around that region, we went in with NATO. We were a lead force because the US armed forces could be trusted to not engage in rape, torcher, and other crimes UN "peacekeepers" engaged in. Any US soldier caught doing these things is thrown into a dark prison called Leavenworth for a very long time, unless he is executed. The NATO involvement was sanctioned, if under diress from Europe and the UN, by the leaders of the factions. That is not, however, what we are talking about here. We are talking about the right to defend ourselves against a force that is capable of, and has attacked the US mainland, our embasies, and our armed forces in neutral ports and countries.

As for thinking we are in a "no-win" situation in the Balklans, you seem to have confused what I meant (the problem with typed messages). Our mission there was to stop the atrocities and separate the factions. The goal was to allow them the chance for peace and freedom. I would argue that Clinton, Europe, and the UN made this difficult for the soldier on the ground to accomplish, but we did succeed. The factions were separated, and the factions have a chance to rebuild and become productive members of the 21st century. Nowhere in my orders did it say "guarantee they will not go back to war". You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. We showed them a better way and dumped a lot of money and resources into the region, now it's up to them, just as it will be up to the Iraqis and Afgans. Just as it was up to post WWII Germany and Japan.

But please remember my questions were framed for the war on terror, not the balklans.
200 posted on 04/20/2004 9:22:35 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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