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Michigan City Council OKs Muslim Prayer Over Loudspeaker
Fox News website ^ | April 21 | Associated press

Posted on 04/21/2004 11:17:44 AM PDT by righteousindignation

Hamtramck,Mich.--Over some residents' objections, the City Council voted unanimously Tuesday night to allow a mosque to send out a call to prayer to Muslims on a loudspeaker....five times a day.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: muslimamericans; muslims
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To: ArrogantBustard
"A Nation which supports the legalised slaughter of the unborn, and commits it at the rate of 4000 per day, has already lost Christian values."

Only if that was exceptable to the vast majority of the nation, it isn't. That was FORCED on the country by the ruling elite and most of us opposed it.

121 posted on 04/21/2004 12:54:11 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: ArrogantBustard
A Nation which supports the legalised slaughter of the unborn, and commits it at the rate of 4000 per day, has already lost Christian values


You speak of the liberal LEFT. Not the whole Nation.

There are PLENTY of us who will snuff out this islamic terror that dares try and get a stronghold in this VERY CHRISTIAN NATION.
122 posted on 04/21/2004 12:54:32 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: johnb838
My understanding is that it is Albanian "refugees" from the "situation" in Kosovo, coming here and spreading the same filth they spread there. No wonder they're also known as "Elbow-nians". The opposition is Polish Catholics who have been there for (I think) 80-100 years. They do ring their bells, and they don't like this one bit. I expect violence.

The three worst and most messed-up groups of head-cases in the world are albanians, chechens, and "palestinians".

If the US govt. doesn't know better than to bring these groups into our land, they're in for some sort of a rude awakening, one way or another.

123 posted on 04/21/2004 12:54:50 PM PDT by judywillow
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To: Iron Matron
Oh come on now anti! Do you really think Christians CARE what CAIR thinks?

Yes. CAIR has a well-funded anti-American agenda. They are bad enough making stuff up to push their cause, and I don't want them to find any actual anti-Muslim violence to push it further.

Chridstians (and others who dont wnat to be forced to hear muslime prostulizing) need to protest, or do somethhing similar in defense.

That would include me. But instead I would kick out the current council. They obviously have no business running a city.

124 posted on 04/21/2004 12:55:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: righteousindignation
I am totally appalled and offended. I live near Cleveland and we have a huge mosque right here. If I had to listen to them call out the name of some pagan god 5 times a day, I think I'd get sick. You can start a ping list for this stuff if you want and put me on it. I'm serious about this. Change happens gradually and I can see this as an insidious cancer that the person can't see yet but the cells are multiplying moment by moment.

125 posted on 04/21/2004 12:56:06 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: antiRepublicrat
Sorry, but with all due respect. you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
126 posted on 04/21/2004 12:56:06 PM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
but never admit that sexual permissiveness, alcohol use, etc., give fuel to the Islamists' rage

The thing is, our culture is NONE OF THEIR FRIGGIN BUSINESS! THEY can just keep their petty rage to themselves! I dont care how corrupt other nations "think" we are - IT STILL IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS - ESPECIALLY IDOL--WORSHIPPING RAGHEADS!
127 posted on 04/21/2004 12:56:25 PM PDT by Iron Matron (Civil Disobedience? It's not just for liberals anymore!)
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To: righteousindignation
The problem with our country now is that many of those in power here are unable to articulate why what we believe is right and wrong, is right and wrong.

The problem with Islam seems to be a willingness to use violence to achieve a religious end. We ought to declare that the First Amendment does not apply to any institution that refuses to expressly reject the use of violence to achieve a religious/political/philosophical end apart from self-defense or keeping public order.

128 posted on 04/21/2004 12:57:34 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey -- appeasement doesn't work)
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To: Iron Matron
I don't hate this country, but, I do hate faggotry, political correctness, abortion and the direction we're heading in.
129 posted on 04/21/2004 12:57:51 PM PDT by Guillermo ("Oh yeah? Well if you do it again, I'm gonna have only one word for you: 'Outta here.'" - Paul Sr.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
"I don't want them to find any actual anti-Muslim violence to push it further."

Sigh, oh yeah, that's a big problem. And how many have ours have died for their allah?

Lets see.. Which side's got the violence issue so far.

Eventually, they'll hit us until we do fight back though, as any survival-instinct entity must.
130 posted on 04/21/2004 12:58:03 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Steve_Seattle
Well said.
131 posted on 04/21/2004 12:58:49 PM PDT by Guillermo ("Oh yeah? Well if you do it again, I'm gonna have only one word for you: 'Outta here.'" - Paul Sr.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Also, another way I've heard it said (in regards to why both Europeans and Mohammedans hate us) is this: Europeans think Americans are too religious and Mohammedans think that Americans are not religious enough.

That about sums it up.
132 posted on 04/21/2004 1:00:05 PM PDT by Guillermo ("Oh yeah? Well if you do it again, I'm gonna have only one word for you: 'Outta here.'" - Paul Sr.)
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To: righteousindignation
Previous Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1121677/posts

133 posted on 04/21/2004 1:00:21 PM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Here's a distinction, Steve. A bell and a sung prayer over a loudspeaker are not the same thing. Something that would be similar would be if a church wanted to broadcast a Gloria In Excelsis five times a day starting at 6:00 a.m. and ending at 10:00 p.m. Personally, I would like it. If the problem were that it was in English, let it be sung in Latin. See if you think the following would be allowed:

Glory to God in the Highest, And Peace to His People on Earth. Lord God, Heavenly King, Almighty God and Father, We Worship You we give You Thanks, We Praise You For Your Glory.

Lord Jesus Christ, Only Son of the Father, Lord God, Lamb of God. You Take Away the Sins of the World, Have Mercy On Us. You Are Seated At the right hand of the Father, Receive our Prayer...

For you alone are the Holy One, You alone are the Lord. You alone are the Most High: Jesus Christ, with the Holy Spirit, In the Glory of God the Father

Amen.

134 posted on 04/21/2004 1:00:36 PM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," US Marine in Fallujah)
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To: BayouCoyote
The whahhabi sect of islam which has caused so much trouble this far has its sights firmly set on the great satan. There are NOT here for freedom..there are here to only subjugate us.

Now that's a true statement. The Wahabbis have always been a bunch of thugs with a vicious interpretation of Islam. The rest of the Muslim world had been trying to suppress them for centuries, but then the British gave them control of Saudi Arabia.

135 posted on 04/21/2004 1:00:43 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: BayouCoyote
You are right on Bayou! Well said. Well said. And funny too.
136 posted on 04/21/2004 1:02:46 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: expatguy
As a born again believer in Jesus Christ, everytime I hear this call to prayer or quran recited I FEEL SO ILL. MANY OTHER CHRISTIANS i talk to feel same way.. I wish i lived there i would band together with fellow christians and do something.. I like the idea all pull up in front of mosque with teen cars.. HUGE SPEAKERS YA KNOW LOL.... Blare some scriptures for them .. :) Count me in if it heads to cincinnati area
137 posted on 04/21/2004 1:03:43 PM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: righteousindignation
This is the beginning of establishment of Sharia in the United States. These calls proclaim the dominance of Islam (and Allah) over the area. I predicted this was going to begin happening here (in the US) about a year ago on another thread. I was met with numerous proclamations to the effect that it would happen "over my dead body" from other FReepers.

So ... when are the funerals?

138 posted on 04/21/2004 1:04:43 PM PDT by templar
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To: Monty22
Sigh, oh yeah, that's a big problem. And how many have ours have died for their allah?

So you're going to stoop to the level of their violent extremists while the law in the U.S. is on their side? Bad strategic move.

Think, people! Don't let emotions give CAIR and their ilk credibility. Don't let them be able to claim persecution.

139 posted on 04/21/2004 1:06:08 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Can we at least claim persecution over 9/11 and endless warfare since 650ad roughly?

How about this new 'persecution' of hearing this garbage?
140 posted on 04/21/2004 1:06:58 PM PDT by Monty22
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