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Expedition Will Seek to Find Noah's Ark
FoxNews.com ^ | 4/26/04 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/26/2004 6:19:02 PM PDT by wagglebee

An expedition is being planned for this summer to the upper reaches of Turkey's Mount Ararat (search) where organizers hope to prove an object nestled amid the snow and ice is Noah's Ark (search).

A joint U.S.-Turkish team of 10 explorers plans to make the arduous trek up Turkey's tallest mountain, at 17,820 feet, from July 15 to August 15, subject to the approval of the Turkish government, said Daniel P. McGivern, president of Shamrock_The Trinity Corporation of Honolulu, Hawaii.

The goal: to enter what they believe to be a mammoth structure some 45 feet high, 75 feet wide and up to 450 feet long that was exposed in part by last summer's heat wave in Europe.

"We are not excavating it. We are not taking any artifacts. We're going to photograph it and, God willing, you're all going to see it," McGivern said.

Explorers have long searched for an ark on the high slopes of Mount Ararat, where the biblical account of the Great Flood places it.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bible; flood; noahsark; turkey
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To: kpp_kpp
Best I can find is that McGivern is a Catholic activist in Hawaii. Other than that I admit I don't know much. I generally trust FoxNews absolutely, maybe I should have checked more. I apologize.
21 posted on 04/26/2004 7:20:18 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
I'd die to be on this expedition.
22 posted on 04/26/2004 7:22:04 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: wagglebee
Cool, I'd like to see the results.
23 posted on 04/26/2004 7:22:28 PM PDT by raynearhood (how many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie-Roll center of a Tootsie-Pop)
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To: wagglebee
Would be an odd hoax, as nobody is claiming to have found the ark..

And there really have been a variety of previous expeditions to Ararat by a variety of scientifically clueless types with more money than sense, that have found bogus "Evidence" of an Ark.
24 posted on 04/26/2004 7:28:52 PM PDT by John H K
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To: wagglebee
"So my question for them is: if it is an ark, how did it get there?"

Wonder will they swear it was built there out of those trees that grow at 17,000 ft asl?

25 posted on 04/26/2004 7:52:28 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: kpp_kpp
in reply to my own message... here is what i've found (still nothing regarding mcgivern/shamrock) but some other intersting history:

from today: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4838007/ (click on the picture too)

from a couple years ago: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/noahs_ark_010823-1.html

and even more background:
http://google.space.com/search?q=cache:http://www.space.com/spacenews/archive02/araratarch_091702.html+noah&site=seti-test&output=xml_no_dtd&client=seti-test&proxystylesheet=http%3A%2F%2F209.73.219.100%2Fcss%2Fspacecom.xsl

http://www.insightmag.com/news/2000/11/20/CoverStory/Anomaly.Or.Noahs.Ark-208686.shtml
26 posted on 04/26/2004 7:54:22 PM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: wagglebee
I'd sincerely doubt the Turks would ever allow a group of Western Christians and Jews look for the Ark, or it would have been located by now.
27 posted on 04/26/2004 8:15:51 PM PDT by Darheel (Visit the strange and wonderful.)
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To: Darheel
Actually, they tightly control who can look for the ark by charging kickbacks and bribes which are extremely expensive. The area around Ararat has been quite extensively searched during numerous expeditions. Numerous people have deliberately trekked in and some claim to have seen or even entered the Ark, but, strangely, none thought of properly photographing the place or marking GPS coordinates.
What this means is that Ararat is a rock AND it's a great place to free wealthy but stupid people of the burden of their currency.
28 posted on 04/26/2004 9:44:04 PM PDT by AdequateMan (I'll take "21st century political fakery" for 500, Alex. Ooh, the Daily Double!)
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To: Darheel
- Beroso, priest, astronomer and Babylonian historian who in 275 B.C. wrote on the habit of pilgrims climbing Ararat to scrape away the pitch on the walls of the Ark to make amulets, describes the Ark visible on Mount Ararat.

- Flavius Josephus, Jewish historian of the first century, wrote in his book: "The story of the Jews" the same Beroso's statement.

- Epifanio of Salamina in the 4 century A.D. used the real existence of Noah's Ark on Mount Ararat as a piece of evidence in defense of the Christian faith, writing: "Do you really believe that we are not able to prove our faith even though up until our times the remains of Noah's Ark are visible in the country of the Kurds?".

- Marco Polo, the famous Venetian traveller, passing near Mount Ararat in 1269 wrote in his book, "Il Milione" : "......and you should know that in that far - off land of Armenia Noah's Ark still lies there on top of a high mountain with snows so persistent that nobody is able to climb it.
29 posted on 04/27/2004 6:01:55 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud
http://www.noahsark.it/Located.htm
30 posted on 04/27/2004 6:03:27 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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