Moderate Muslims March in Phoenix - and an anti-war demonstration breaks out

FrontPageMagazine ^ | 4/30/04 | Daniel Pipes

[Modernman]

Was the DC sniper a genuine Muslim or an NOI member?

I don't know what type of Muslim he was. AFAIK, the sniper had no ties to any group. That's sort of scary- he was essentially a freelance jihadi.

[JimRed]

Jasser might be one of those rare peaceful Muslims but out of 50,000 or so Muslims, he was only hoping to get a few hundred to show up and got maybe 30?

It will be interesting to see how many of the 30 will be alive a year from now.

[wtc911]

A moderate muslim is one who doesn't pull the trigger himself.

[AmishDude]

Isn't that the problem? It isn't like the groups have a copyrighted logo or anything. The loudest and most shrill Islamic voices get heard. All others get ignored. They run the Islamic world and the rest are either cowed or in some way sympathetic.

It goes to the Islamic mindset. In the Muslim version of end-times, the world will have been converted (in Mohammed's view, by the sword) until the pagan religions are wiped out and the world is happily Muslim.

This is why you hear so much equivocation about Israel. "Yes, a child may have been sent to blow himself up in a marketplace, but Israel jailed a jihadi merely because he had weapons and plans to kill thousands of people."

Even the most moderate Muslim (assuming we're talking about a genuine Muslim and not one who comes West so he doesn't have to practice Islam anymore) sees the end-times in this way. So the Israelis (and Spaniards and Slavic Christians) are the worst of infidels because they caused Islam to retreat from its divine destiny.

It's in the mindset even if they aren't particularly Muslim or the slightest bit militant. The irony is that the Wahabbists are elitist and somewhat outside this view because they view most Muslims as not Muslim enough. But I guess they will be re-converted in time.

Scar, here's my version of long-windedness.

[zip]

Quiz:

ISLAM is the fastest growing (insert one) in the world.

a) "mafia" b) "criminal organization" c) "gang of murderous thugs" d) religion of peace

(C) Do I win a prize?

[zip]

Every Muslim organization, even the Islamist ones like the AMC, denounced them unequivocally.

They condemned it more than any other group in history. Name another group that condemned terrorism done in their name more than US Muslims after 9/11.

SOURCE ?????????????This was NEVER REPORTED on TV/print/radio. As a matter of fact, the mooslims in Columbia MO cheered and laughed it up. So........

[zip]

One out of ten Muslims are doctors

BS

[manic4organic]

Reminds me of a joke I heard recently (on FR perhaps?).

What's the difference between a radical and a moderate muslim?

Moderate muslims use a remote detonator.

[Zack Nguyen]

Obviously the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists. Yet it is becoming clear that few of them would openly condemn terrorism without a matching screed against the Jews or American "imperialism." This very article dubbed the rally to be the first Muslim anti-terror rally in the country. It was a failure. Accoridng to the article, most of the people who showed up weren't even Muslim.

There's really nothing we can do about this in the short term.

[Zack Nguyen]

Interesting logic, though. Can you name me one Christian organization that denounced Eric Rudolph or the parade of abortion clinic and gay nightclub terrorists?

Are you joking? Virtually every pro-life organization takes strong stands condemning violence in any form. Violence is not pro-life.

[Imagine]

Don't change the subject. Repeat after me: "weapons storehouses"

[Imagine]

But of course............

[ought-six]

The author closes with: "This problem needs to be dealt with. If not, I can imagine the United States will hear the same overt calls for jihad and Islamic rule that Western Europe is now experiencing."

If we start seeing Mohammedan leaders in the U.S. openly calling for the murder of Americans, than those same Mohammedans will be fair game. They better understand that.

[ought-six]

"Do you think most Americans view 99.999% of Muslims as terrorists even though 99.999999999999999999% have not done a single thing to back terrorism?"

Those 99.9999999999% of Moslems were sure as hell quiet about condemning 9/11 and terrorism in general. Moreover, it is a fact that most of the mosques in the U.S. are bankrolled by Saudi money, and are strongly influenced by Wahhibbiism, which is a virulently militant and viscious sect. They are not as open about going out in public and calling for the murder of non-Moslems, as they do in England, for instance. And the reason they are no so open is because they know there are about 80 million armed American citizens whose patience with Islamic fanaticism has grown very, very thin. The Mohammedans are, if nothing else, abject cowards, and that is why they publicly call for jihad in England, where the British people are disarmed; but are relatively silent here, where we ARE armed.

[ought-six]

"Most of those that are bashing Muslims in this thread would be doing it against Jews if a handful of Jewish extremists attacked the US."

WRONG! If Jews were killing indiscriminately around the globe in the name of Judaism than I think you'd see Freepers condemning them, as well. It's a fact that ONLY Mohammedans are on a global killing rampage in the name of their "religion."

[SevenDaysInMay]

Before the campaign season "peace" marches begin, Americans must read islam's holy scripture "haddith", aka battle plan.

Islam's 5th column and sleepers are deep under our rocks next to the commies and anarchists. The al-anti-war movement is coming, demonstrating in our faces; arab hegenomy in the name of allah.

True islam, literal islam, is reigniting its allah commanded war of world conquest now after is shameful 500 year sleep in the dung flavored dust of its dar al-islam, the equator to 40 degrees North belt from Afria to the Philippines. Canada is a furtal staging area for islam's Terror war in our USA.

Americans must read islam's "koran" and "haddith" so that we may understand the treachery of islam's declared Terror War on America.

If we do not destroy our mortal enemies, America shall lose our society as surely as we shall lose our Constitutional Republic.

America's socialists aid and abet our mortal enemies because their world construct blinds them to islam's commanded goal of world conquest wherein we surviving infedels may live under their "sharia", except the ruling sybaritic classes.

The Clintonazis' DNC-Politburo would have us all subject to clintons' perfected "Emergency Powers", a Borg declaration suspending our ratified Constitution for "public safety" when the "haddith" scripted peace demonstrations confront infedel Americans and Jews.

Palli-Qaeda bombings are coming, not because we are Americans, but because islamists are devout muslims obeying their "holy scriptures'" commands.

More than our 1st Amendment's "...the right of the people peaceably to assemble..." shall be infringed by America's ruling class.

Police state powers always supercedes rights of the people - after our Ratified 2nd Amendment has been interpreted away.

Librals, aka self-centered socialists, don't want to be bothered by this "distant" war; wait for greater LA, San Fran-Oakland-San Jose, Boston, Martha's Vineyard, Central Park, Hamptons, Arlington, and Key West are targetted by jihadies, in the name of allah.

Arab's oily money is already deep inside the pockets of the DNC-Politburo's nomenclatura. I would first look into the Clinton "Libary" slush funds; no wonder that G.W. is so hated.

With "politics as usual", VSOB Day is beyond our reach.

America is in this War on Terror for life.

[Modernman]

Don't change the subject. Repeat after me: "weapons storehouses"

I'm not changing the subject. I'm just pointing out that your fears of some Muslim takeover of this country are not realistic.

[Wolfhound777]

Do you think most Americans view 99.999% of Muslims as terrorists even though 99.999999999999999999% have not done a single thing to back terrorism?i

They are complicit supporters of terrorism by their lack of condemnation of it. They don't need to fear American goon squads coming after them for voicing condemnation of terrorism which makes it even more sickening. We can not sit idly by and let our country become infiltrated with people who do not or will not value our way of life and defend it.

[ZULU]

I think its time to separate the sheep from the goats and ship out the goats.

This man is obviously a loyal American. Equally, and unfortunately, its obvious that he has few supporters. He may wind up facing a Fatwa.

[Wolfhound777]

WHAT SOLUTION DO YOU PROPOSE? SHOULD THEY ALL BE PUT IN GAS CHAMBERS?


Non-citizen muslims should be deported back to their countries of allegiance. If they are unwilling to stand up and voice solidarity against terrorism in a country that has first amendment rights, then they are supporters in silence. This country can ill afford to have mass numbers of people who don't care about the continuity of its way of life. We have our hands full battling the democRats, we don't need another front opened in the assualt on our way values, beliefs, and republican form of government.