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Moderate Muslims March in Phoenix - and an anti-war demonstration breaks out
FrontPageMagazine ^ | 4/30/04 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 04/30/2004 2:11:32 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: zip; BOBWADE
ping
21 posted on 04/30/2004 4:50:01 AM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: ScarTissue
Muslim isn't a race --- it's an ideology.
22 posted on 04/30/2004 4:54:22 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Mark17
Notice the rally was held outdoors? Indoors there are no moderate moslems.
23 posted on 04/30/2004 4:57:19 AM PDT by vandykelastone (I'm so glad Goober Pyle is the Governor of New Mexico, aren't you?)
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To: ScarTissue
If Muslims are the threat you people claim there without a shred of evidenc,

Evidence? Look at what is going on in Indonesia, the Sudan, the Middle East, Spain, Nigeria, Pakistan. You can't say Islam has nothing to do with a lot of the violence and death in the world right now.

24 posted on 04/30/2004 4:58:43 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: ScarTissue
Funny, nobody but you mentioned gas chambers.
25 posted on 04/30/2004 4:58:46 AM PDT by vandykelastone (I'm so glad Goober Pyle is the Governor of New Mexico, aren't you?)
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To: FITZ
Correct, I should have said bigots, although 99% of these people hate all Arabs, even though 75% of US Arabs are Christian.

These people are an embarassment to the conservative movement. This is why no Republican leader will come within a mile of Michael Savage.
26 posted on 04/30/2004 5:01:07 AM PDT by ScarTissue
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To: ScarTissue
Based on what evidence?

Based on the evidence that since 9/11, there have been virtually NO instances where Muslims have publicly condemned those attackes without adding the qualifier "but," and that the only public statements about terrorism by US Muslims have been complaints about their so-called persecution (which in reality has been virtually non-existent).

Are you saying that most of the 7 million Muslims in the US are terrorists

Based on all the visible evidence and the behavior of the Muslim community, it is pretty clear tha that the majority of Muslims in the US are either sympathetic to radical Islam, actively supporting it, or too cowardly/intimidated to stand up and condemn it.

That is ridiculous. If they were a threat, President Bush, a real patriot, would be the first to deal with it.

Just like he's dealing with illegal immigration across our southern border.

If you were president what would you do with Muslims?

At the very least I would not be going our of my way to tout Islam as the religion of peace.

Do you think most Americans view 99.999% of Muslims as terrorists even though 99.999999999999999999% have not done a single thing to back terrorism?

99.999999999999999999% have not done a single thing to oppose it or condemn it, either.

27 posted on 04/30/2004 5:02:01 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: ScarTissue
there is the stark reality that very few Muslims did show up.

If they're really so peaceful --- this was there chance and something like 30 or so showed up? You'd think more would come by even if their intention was to fool people. I don't think there is a city in the USA where many Muslims would show up to an anti-terror demonstration --- because many don't disagree with the goals of Al Queda.

28 posted on 04/30/2004 5:09:02 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: ScarTissue
"Islam is as peaceful as any other religion."

Oh, puleeeeze....Scar, you're delusional. And the rest of your post is even worse. I support Israel, the war against terror and abortion is killing. Need I say more?

BTW, who said the dirt "comment?"
29 posted on 04/30/2004 5:09:53 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: ScarTissue
Jasser might be one of those rare peaceful Muslims but out of 50,000 or so Muslims, he was only hoping to get a few hundred to show up and got maybe 30? Just like the article says --- the radical group could have gotten far more anti-American pro-Jihad Muslims to come out for a demonstration. Even with the whining of Muslims about Americans not trusting them, they aren't doing anything to prove we should. This was just one example of where they were given a chance to do so.
30 posted on 04/30/2004 5:15:04 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: ScarTissue
Oops!

You outed yourself.

Sorry you don't like Israel.

Too bad that prejudice has nothing to do with the problem caused by American unwillingness to recognize that we have allowed an islamic chancre to develope into a full scale disease on our own soil.

Also, I note your comment that " Only 1/6 of Muslims are Middle Eastern. " and that begs two questions:
How did islam convert 83% of its membership from other religions? (hint - force).
And, what percentage of American muslims are converts and why did they do so if not forced? (hint - they don't believe in our style of society or government)

31 posted on 04/30/2004 5:17:39 AM PDT by norton
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To: ScarTissue
Quiz:

ISLAM is the fastest growing (insert one) in the world.

a) "mafia" b) "criminal organization" c) "gang of murderous thugs" d) religion of peace
32 posted on 04/30/2004 5:21:03 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: norton
That said, I thank Zuhdi Jasser for having tried and I hope that he and others can manage at least to bring out whatever cowering moderates their community might harbor.

It is only people like them who have the power to avert an honest to God holy war and so far it seems very unlikely that they can or will step forth and try.

33 posted on 04/30/2004 5:21:06 AM PDT by norton
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To: Maceman; ScarTissue
"99.999999999999999999% have not done a single thing to oppose it or condemn it, either.

I saw that and had to comment on it. Fortunately, before I did I saw that you had already done so.

It's this supposed silent majority that bothers me almost as much as the terrorists killing innocent men, women, and children in the name of allah.

By their silence, they appear to be in support of the terror. And their silence silences my tolerance and fuels my own growing prejudice against Muslims and Islam.

My mind is still open but I'm reminded that I can't hear what you, the "moderate Muslims", are saying as your actions are speaking so loudly. In almost every war, in almost every trouble spot on the planet, there are Muslims stirring things up.

34 posted on 04/30/2004 5:25:20 AM PDT by GBA
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To: ScarTissue
Most Israelis would abuse YOUR rights:

It's bigotted to believe most Muslims would abuse our rights but okay to believe most Israelis would abuse our rights? Isralies didn't kill over 2000 Americans who only went to work one September day in NY.

35 posted on 04/30/2004 5:27:47 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Robert WarrenLinville
Right on
36 posted on 04/30/2004 5:33:35 AM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around)
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To: ChadGore
Another good one.
37 posted on 04/30/2004 5:35:07 AM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around)
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To: wirestripper
Nearly half a million deaths in WW2.........

If it hadn't been a lib president we would have stopped the second day of the invasion. The media would have done what they did in Viet Nam and are now trying to do in Iraq.

We must not let the media define our president or our mission in Iraq.

38 posted on 04/30/2004 5:40:14 AM PDT by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: ScarTissue
" Islam is as peaceful as any other religion."

Ok, back to the asylum. You cannot play outdoors anymore with reality. Bad scumbag!
39 posted on 04/30/2004 5:46:33 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: kattracks
I say..Hurrah for true American Muslims!
40 posted on 04/30/2004 5:48:54 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (illegitimo noncarborundium)
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