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Senator LEVIN says Bush offered"to cut and run" in Iraq.(Senate floor)
http://thomas.loc.gov ^ | 4-29-04 | Senator LEVIN

Posted on 04/30/2004 6:27:48 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

Mr. LEVIN. Madam President, in the midst of the ongoing upsurge of the violence in Iraq, President Bush has offered two options for the United States. The first option is to stay the course; the second option is to cut and run. That is a false choice between staying the course and cutting and running. It is too typical of the black and white approach that this administration has repeatedly and unwisely taken.

(When has Pres. Bush EVER we would "cut and run"?)

For example, saying ``you are either with us or against us'' is a black and white choice--the stark choice the President laid down to allies. Well, it may make you feel good to say that, but it needlessly offends those who are certainly not hostile to the United States but may be unwilling to affirmatively endorse all of our actions.

In addition to the President's stark two options--staying the course or cutting and running--there is a third way, and that is to correct the course we are on. The administration has belatedly begun this process, but there is much to be done, and it is much harder and more difficult because of the administration's stubborn insistence that no mistakes were made and its refusal to learn the lessons that need to be learned from those mistakes.

For instance, after holding the United Nations at arm's length, the administration is now belatedly working with the U.N., asking them to help identify an entity to whom sovereignty could be restored by June 30--an entity which needs to have the confidence and credibility of the Iraqi people. I hope this will be the start of a true partnership at the U.N. in fostering Iraq's political and economic development.

The administration has decided to retain some troops in Iraq that were scheduled to leave, despite the fact that the administration disparaged General Shinseki when he foretold the need for more troops for the stability phase.

[Page: S4630] GPO's PDF

The administration decided to modify its policy on de-Baathification and reinstate about 11,000 teachers and hundreds of professors and is reportedly looking to reinstate others whose skills and support are needed for Iraq's development. I hope this revision is seen for what it is--acknowledgement that we went too far, acknowledgement that we made a mistake. I hope it will also include the removal of Ahmed Chalabi as the head of the de-Baathification program, as well. He is the wrong person for the job for a lot of reasons.

While not reversing the mistaken decision to disband the Iraqi Army, the administration's decision to bring back some military officers who were not high Baathists to help guide the new Iraqi Army and other security forces is a practical first step--very late. We only have a few thousand in the Iraqi Army who are now trained but long overdue.

One other mistake was perhaps the biggest mistake of all, in my judgment. Our uniformed military leadership was largely excluded from the planning for the potentially violent aftermath of the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime. The civilians in the Pentagon who were put in charge projected rose-colored scenarios in their planning for the aftermath: Our troops would be greeted with embraces and flowers. It would be a cakewalk.

Had our uniformed military leadership been more deeply involved in that planning, it would have been very different, as our military plans for worst case scenarios. The worst case scenario is what turned out to be the case. But uniformed military were all but left out of the planning for the post-Saddam period. General Tommy Franks, the now retired commander of Central Command who planned the other phases of the operation, confirmed that to me and to Senator Warner a few weeks ago.

On the matter of planning, I realize the administration is committed to the June 30 date for the restoration of Iraqi sovereignty. But I hope that commitment will not prevent it from planning for other options in the event Mr. Brahimi is not successful in identifying a credible entity to whom sovereignty can be restored by that date.

If we have a chance of succeeding and bringing stability and democracy to Iraq, it will mean learning from our mistakes, not denying them and not ignoring them.

I yield the floor.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; carllevin; cutandrun; iraq; levin
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To: OXENinFLA
Speaking of "cut and run" politics ...


"I actually voted for the $87 billion, before I voted against it".
21 posted on 04/30/2004 6:59:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Being a muddled "gray" is what got us into this pickle in the first place.
The sandmaggots themselves have as much as said so numerous times in captures memos and communications. Being in the middle of the road gets you run over.

Some problems are black and white. Confronting pure savage primitive and uncompromising evil is one of them. What a marroon!

22 posted on 04/30/2004 7:00:26 AM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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To: OXENinFLA
President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended Remarks by the President from the USS Abraham Lincoln At Sea Off the Coast of San Diego, California

The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done. Then we will leave, and we will leave behind a free Iraq.

23 posted on 04/30/2004 7:01:07 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
Tiny men... senile men... cannot even pretend to grasp the simplest but most noble ideals of true leaders:

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge—and more."

24 posted on 04/30/2004 7:07:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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To: OXENinFLA
President's Message to the Iraqi People April 10, 2003

Pres. Bush: The goals of our coalition are clear and limited. We will end a brutal regime, whose aggression and weapons of mass destruction make it a unique threat to the world. Coalition forces will help maintain law and order, so that Iraqis can live in security. We will respect your great religious traditions, whose principles of equality and compassion are essential to Iraq’s future. We will help you build a peaceful and representative government that protects the rights of all citizens. And then our military forces will leave. Iraq will go forward as a unified, independent and sovereign nation that has regained a respected place in the world.

25 posted on 04/30/2004 7:14:46 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: Poohbah; section9; Howlin; PhiKapMom; Miss Marple
Some real interesting stuff here.
26 posted on 04/30/2004 7:19:08 AM PDT by hchutch (Tommy Thompson's ephedra ban STINKS.)
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To: OXENinFLA
I just don't know what the Democrats hope to gain by this. This is just not the Vietnam era. Sure, the troops in Iraq are having a hard time of it, sure things are difficult. Unlike Vietnam, the armed forces today are all volunteer. Yes, someone who volunteered may not have anticipated they would see combat, but nonetheless, they were told it was a possibility and they did volunteer. Nothing can change that fact. Thus, when Kennedy, Levin, et. al. take to the Senate floor to decry Iraq as Vietnam, they are only preaching to the choir of leftist kooks. There is not going to be outrage by the American public in general as there was when the armed forces were conscripted.
27 posted on 04/30/2004 7:20:19 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson
PLAYING POLITICS WITH IRAQ -- (Senate - April 29, 2004)


[Page: S4671] GPO's PDF
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Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, as President pro tempore and presiding over the Senate, I have found the overheated rhetoric on Iraq over the last few days at best disappointing and at worst misleading, harshly partisan, and motivated by election year politics. I have simply had enough of this. I have come to the floor to ask my Senate colleagues to restore the level of debate that this institution demands. I urge the Senate to not play politics with Iraq.




Give me a sec. I'm going to make a thread of this, Stevens starts clubbing the dems w/ their own owrds..
28 posted on 04/30/2004 7:29:31 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: FlipWilson
PLAYING POLITICS WITH IRAQ (Senator STEVENS)
29 posted on 04/30/2004 7:35:05 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
And this is the reason why the Terrorists love Democrats

I just want to know why they hate our country so much they are willingly distorting the truth and saying bold face lies??

The Dem Leaders would have to being living under a rock not to realize this kind of talk encourages the terrorists

Is regaining power that important to put the lives of our military and the lives of American citizens in danger like they are?

30 posted on 04/30/2004 9:13:07 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: OXENinFLA
For example, saying ``you are either with us or against us'' is a black and white choice--the stark choice the President laid down to allies.

Let's see. The people in the WTC on 9-11 are either alive or dead. Yup. That's pretty black and white.

I'm from Michigan. Levin makes me puke.

Becki

31 posted on 04/30/2004 12:36:42 PM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops.)
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To: OXENinFLA
There's enough actual things to hate liberals over than to make things up. He's saying that Bush has tried to box Democrats in by saying that you are either for Bush's way or you are for cutting and running. He's not advocating cutting and running. It's the same as with "you're either for us or against us." Bush isn't advocating that people and nations be against us. He's offering what he thinks are the only two options. You can disagree that there are only two options regarding Iraq or disagree that Bush thinks there are only two options, but Levin isn't saying Bush has ever advocated cutting and running.
32 posted on 05/07/2004 9:28:35 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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