[oceanview]

how do you know? we have no idea what is out there, in totality. events could have been staged and filmed, anyone can wear a US army uniform and be filmed from the neck down raping an iraqi teenager.

[Senator Pardek]

The president has instructed Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to present him with him all known images that could further deepen the crises.

Ya really think Rumsfeld hasn't done this already?

"I'm sorry Mr. President - we've been real busy at the Pentagon lately - I promise to have this stuff on your desk by the end of the week."

[sinkspur]

how do you know? we have no idea what is out there, in totality. events could have been staged and filmed, anyone can wear a US army uniform and be filmed from the neck down raping an iraqi teenager.

Any evidence that any of this was "staged"? Every single one of the participants in the photos released so far has been identified as a service member or an outsourced civilian.

Don't kid yourself; these are our guys, doing unbelieveably dumb things.