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Are Homeschoolers really similar to Islamic Terrorists?
Creative Loafing,Charlotte ^ | BY QUINN COTTON

Posted on 05/11/2004 8:39:01 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross

Homeschool Horror Divinely ordained education, taught by martyrs

BY QUINN COTTON

You know how there are terrorist cells embedded throughout the world? Well, in my neighborhood we have numerous "homeschool" cells humming in the cul-de-sacs. They're almost as scary as the terrorist ones in some ways -- and they definitely have some traits in common with them.

When we first moved to Charlotte, the houses next to us, behind us, and diagonally across the street all contained children who mysteriously never seemed to leave home, and mothers with glazed expressions on their faces. The whole set-up of moms stuck with their school-age kids 24/7 gave me the willies, and that was before I even had one of my own.

Middle class areas seem to be magnets for little suburban schoolhouses. Even though there must be homeschooling pockets all over Charlotte, somehow I don't picture your basic Ballantyne babe risking breaking a nail on a chalkboard in the bonus room, or skipping a tennis set for an educational excursion to the sewage plant. Likewise, I doubt many Belmont moms miss a beat packing those kids off to public school. It's the middle class that gets suckered into the myth that mothers and older children can survive being together all day without somebody being strangled. The true "haves" and "have-nots" know better.

What's scary is that a lot of the homeschooling faithful are as fueled by a fanatical, religion-based belief in their mission as Islamist terrorists, and seem to be just about as brainwashed. Sometimes I even wonder if they're a manufactured race along the lines of the Stepford wives in Ira Levin's book, but assembled in fundamentalist Christian churches instead of family basements. Like the Stepford robots, they're programmed to fulfill their husbands' fantasies, only in this case it's their role as the Ultimate Selfless Mothers.

Other times I feel like the heroine in another famous horror story by Levin, Rosemary's Baby, at that chilling moment when she puts together the anagram "All of Them Witches" and realizes it refers to her seemingly harmless neighbors. Some of the homeschooling moms (HMs) are kind of witch-y, with the uncut hair and the long skirts because pants on females are unholy, but the description that really applies to this coven is "All of Them Zealots."

They're not only terrorist-like in their conviction that their calling is divinely ordained, homeschoolers also often have a broad martyr streak. Rather than suicide bombings, though, they commit "suicide book-learning," sacrificing their own lives to teach their kids. I've known one or two to get pregnant as an excuse to get out of homeschooling hell, but the true martyrs keep right on instructing, with the newest little pupil glued to their breast.

Beyond a certain age, children and mothers are just not meant to be isolated together. It's unnatural. Keeping the kids at home might have worked back in the Stone Age, but cave women would've at least had each other for company, and I bet they made damn sure the youngsters stayed off in a group together while they grunted gossip and drank their Cro-Magnon coffee.

Kids need their teachers to be adults, separate from their mothers. That way they can idolize or despise them apart from a parent figure, and don't have to depend on one person for everything they require. Did a parent of yours try to teach you to drive? How'd that go? 'Nuff said.

All young animals must be immersed in a mass of their peers so they can figure out what it means to function as a member of the larger group. Believe me, I'm aware that homeschooling families get their children together, since occasionally there'll be a flood of them from next door scrambling over the fence to play uninvited in our yard, but being with maybe a dozen other kids once in a while doesn't do the trick. It takes serious numbers for developing humans to catch on to the nuances of accepted behavior and to have a chance to make enough friends. I just can't see homeschooling providing adequate socialization.

One of my neighboring HMs taught her two kids through eighth grade, then threw them to the wolves in public high school. The boy ended up dropping out and doing jail time, and the girl got pregnant.

Yes, I know that homeschooled kids have won high-profile academic contests, but for every homeschooler who aces a spelling bee, there's some poor child being "instructed" by a parent who's barely literate herself. Teachers in the public school system are required to have certification and college degrees, yet any yahoo can force their kids to stay home as long as they pass an annual test.

What's really scary about homeschooling is what it can do to the sanity of a mother deluded into thinking it's her Christian duty. No woman was ever meant to be trapped in a house all day with children old enough to spell "homicide."

So if new neighbors move in next door and you notice that the kids never leave for school and mom wears her hair in two braids, be afraid. Be very afraid


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: barf; education; homeschool; homeschoolparanoia; homeschoolterrorism; northcarolina; socalledjournalism
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Like the Stepford robots, they're programmed to fulfill their husbands' fantasies, only in this case it's their role as the Ultimate Selfless Mothers

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I can't even read anymore. I guess it would surprise this fool that it was *me*, the mother, who was interested in homeschooling. I can't say I've found myself to be the exception in the circles I am in either.
201 posted on 05/11/2004 1:05:15 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
May I also suggest that the author never have children. I notice she sees children as a burden, making a mother feel trapped, etc. There seems to be very little she has positive to say about children in general. Perhaps that is why she does not "get it".
202 posted on 05/11/2004 1:06:46 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: Caipirabob
Sorry to say, but the entire State of Kansas will follow suit, effective this morning, by judicial decree closing all public schools.

And certified teachers have been known to be incompetent. Just because they get paid to "teach" doesn't mean that they actually teach anything worth teaching effectively.

There are plenty of failing public schools.

Then there are the gangs, drugs, violence, and generally disruptive students. These problems simply don't exist in home-school situations.

In my experience, most public-school teachers spend rather little time teaching, and many make no serious attempt whatsoever. Some attempt to make students into good little bureaucrats by giving them endless reams of boring paperwork, called "busiwork."

For every well-performing public school where students actually learn significant academic knowledge, there's probably more than one public school where education never actually occurs, even on the best of days.
203 posted on 05/11/2004 1:22:19 PM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: cupcakes
These folks who think this way are not stupid, they know exactly what they are doing, they have THEIR religious beliefs and they are working overtime trying to indoctrinate as many as possible -- and -- since we have finally gotten a clue and taken our ball and our kids and gone home, because like we have no other choices, since they are still keeping all the taxpayers money for this indoctrination they are STILL doing, - what do they do, they still attack US, and we still get defensive?? They carry on about our skirts, our hair, mock the fact that we actually adore our husbands and children -- they do it TO DISTRACT US. This is a major distraction technique on their part! How dare they steal my husband's money then complain that I will not let them indoctrinate my very own flesh and blood, and then mock us for the way we dress - why we have dresses on and lovely hair, some of us may look just a wee bit to feminine and those kids who keep sucking at our breasts!!! It drives these feminazis nuts. I love driving feminazis nuts!!!
204 posted on 05/11/2004 1:24:52 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (You shall love the Lord you God with ALL your heart, mind and soul!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Homeschoolers do come in all different colors, shapes and religious beliefs. It just isn't PC to attack them.

some of them are even....liberal! THere is actually a somewhat active thread (nowhere near as active as this one - they have around 50 posts) where they are debating the same thing.

205 posted on 05/11/2004 1:30:33 PM PDT by livianne
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To: livianne
Do you mean DU?
206 posted on 05/11/2004 1:35:27 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red,white and blue)
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To: WVNan
You most likely fit into the same catagory, livianne. I should have said Judeo-Christian faith. Anyone within our Judeo-Christian tradition is suspect at the very least.

I don't know...I've seen some of the ranting against homeschooling at other sites and it's virulenty anti-Christian. Of course it's really just another excuse to be anti-Christian, which seems to be the favorite past-time of some of the louder and screechier lefties these days. Homeschooling itself really has nothing to do with it, since they spend the rest of the time complaining that the "fundies" have taken over the public schools.

207 posted on 05/11/2004 1:40:59 PM PDT by livianne
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Do you mean DU?

yeah, i actually thought i put DU in the sentence, but apparently I didn't.

Duh...better not homeschool. I'm barely literate...

208 posted on 05/11/2004 1:46:18 PM PDT by livianne
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To: cupcakes
I guess it would surprise this fool that it was *me*, the mother, who was interested in homeschooling.

I don't know of a single instance of a homeschool family where the father was "for" homeschooling and the mother was "against." In most cases, the mother is the one who does the research and prepares the case for the father as to why she should homeschool. It's generally the mother who convinces the father.

I've offered advice to several women (hey even some Freeper women) on the male perspective and key points that men will be interested in when discussing the homeschool option. Here are some highlights:

1. Gather the latest statistics on the achievements of homeschoolers. Facts will help your argument. Emotionalism will not. Comparison of achievement test scores is a good place to start.

2. Emphasize that you want to "educate our child at home," not that you want to "keep my babies with me." The first implies that you're taking an active stance on advancing the child's interests. The second means that you want your children to never grow up.

3. If all else fails, just start doing it. Nobody ever said you couldn't do some homeschool activities while your children are still enrolled in public school, or even before. Heck, my wife taught my son to read at age three (he wanted to read his own stories... this was not a forced thing). After that, I knew she was capable of teaching him.

4. Address how your child will have the opportunity to grow friendships outside of the schoolhouse. I didn't want my son to grow up a hermit. I wanted him to have a chance to play sports if he wanted. My wife showed me that she was concerned about these things, too, and she had a plan.

5. If you work, what is the economic impact to the family if you stay home? Have a prospective budget worked up.

6. Ask your husband to go to a local homeschool support meeting or event. Just knowing that there are regular guys with regular kids who homeschool is an eye-opener.

209 posted on 05/11/2004 1:48:31 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: livianne
heehee.. got a link?
210 posted on 05/11/2004 1:49:02 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red,white and blue)
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To: TexasCowboy
I developed an appreciation for fire and explosions in shop class..
Won't say how.
I promised I wouldn't provide encouragement for any younger people to attempt to replicate the moment of my discovery.
Though it does involve a tank of oxy/acetylene, an igniter, and several flammable/ catastrophically combustible items.
211 posted on 05/11/2004 2:08:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (I am Darksheare, I find weird threads!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; 2Jedismom; SpookBrat
"glazed-look-in-my-eyes" bump
212 posted on 05/11/2004 2:31:03 PM PDT by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Well my son is 16. He has no GPA. Right now we have him on home studies because he's missed too much school due to . If he really, really wants to go to Wyotech, he'll get that diploma. Some kids, especially boys, just don't do well in an institutionalized learning enviroment.

My 9 yr old used to love school until we moved down here. That district's goal was to teach the kids, not be number 1 in the state at the expense of the kids. I'm really concerned that this could continue to affect her, even after we move back.
213 posted on 05/11/2004 2:38:18 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Darksheare
I made phosgene in chemistry class - got half the school evacuated!
214 posted on 05/11/2004 2:43:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I can see you, but you can't see me.)
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To: TontoKowalski
That's a good post...my husband went from thinking home-schooling was a "way out there" kind of strange thing to do a few years ago, to saying "We've got to get our kids out of there and teach them ourselves!" a couple years ago.

I would add to your list for "making the case" that if your family is having any difficulties with the public school, enlist husband's help on an issue and let him have some front-line experience dealing with the bureaucrats. Dealing with the H.S. principal and school nurse about P.E. and P.E. credits when our eldest was faced with a temporary physical condition preventing P.E. participation was a real eye-opener for him. (The school nurse YELLED at the surgeon, insisting our daughter could play!) He'd heard my tales over the years, but seeing the kind of nutty bureaucratic stuff I regularly deal with for himself was something else. I think that was the tipping point for him. We already had one child in private school and knew tuitition for a few children at once was out of the question. I had been researching H.S.'ing with increasing intensity and had an "action plan" to act on when we were ready to make the decision.

Recently my husband attended a business meeting where the "ice breaker" was to tell others something about yourself that they might be surprised to learn. He told me that he said "My wife and I are homeschoolers!" It was neat to realize what a change this represented in his thinking -- from thinking of it as kind of a "fringe" thing to do to now broadcasting the news to others!
215 posted on 05/11/2004 2:45:50 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
What's scary is that a lot of the homeschooling faithful are as fueled by a fanatical, religion-based belief in their mission as Islamist terrorists, and seem to be just about as brainwashed.

If this were true, this author would not have survived writing this article.

216 posted on 05/11/2004 2:53:37 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Moleman; mvpel
How is assault ignored?? Please explain. I went through public school and so far have not been on drugs, killed anyone, voted for our President and have a successfull career.

Oh it's ignored. After I transferred to the local public school from Catholic school, I got my butt kicked every day. I don't have brothers and sisters, so I was at a self defense disadvantage. My parents complained until they were blue in the face, but nothing was done.

When we moved back down here to care for my mom, my daughter ended up at the same elementary school. Because of my school experiences, I have always told my kids to hit back, school policy be damned. The way I see it, if you hit back hard the first time, chances are the bullies will leave you alone. Ironically, last year my youngest one complained that a boy was bouncing soccer balls off of her head during recess. The teacher on yard duty didn't even turn around. Her brother taught her how to throw a good punch, as opposed to hitting like a girl.

Next day she came home from school and told me that the first punch didn't knock him down, but the second one did. He never got in her way again. Teacher didn't even notice that a little girl beat up a boy.

It's easier for some teachers to ignore problems than do their job. Instead of reprimanding and punishing the instigator, they'd rather suspend the attacker and the victim.

I went through public school, and ended up quite the opposite than you. However on my 18th birthday, I registered to vote as a Republican. I was probably stoned, too. I'd rather save my youngest kid from this grief, and try and give her a better education, not to mention an appreciation for learning.

217 posted on 05/11/2004 3:02:08 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Tax-chick
Free hydrogen gas, followed by chlorine.
I was summarily 'banned' from any chemical experiments.
218 posted on 05/11/2004 3:04:40 PM PDT by Darksheare (I am Darksheare, I find weird threads!)
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To: Caipirabob
I am a homeschooling parent, I own my own business, I am deeply involved in my community and church, this is just one of the many things I am teaching my children.
219 posted on 05/11/2004 3:11:31 PM PDT by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Sadly typical of the modern American Parent. Your child is not your beloved offspring, s/he's a burdunsome hinderence which should be shuffled out of your presence at every oppertunity.

Barf indeed.
220 posted on 05/11/2004 3:20:03 PM PDT by WillRain
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