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Hawaii Embodies the Politics of American Idol (Media Throws Down the Race Card)
Life Today Section ^ | May 14, 2004 | Bill Keveny

Posted on 05/14/2004 8:51:58 AM PDT by sathers

Hawaii's 1.25 million population completed a total of 1.23 million calls in their two hour voting period (6 hours behind East Coast Time) a large portion which were for Jasmine Trias says Kevin Laverty of Verizon Wireless.

That's 24,000 more than New Jersey which has seven times the population. Overall, Hawaii logged more calls than all of Verizon's 29 coverage states except New York and California in the post-Idol hours.

Though the island votes helped Jasmine Trias, they make up a portion of a national total that may top 25 million. Other theories abound about how the vote veered so wildly from the consensus of judges and qualified observers.

Many AI Folowers believe children and teens, who are more likely to be passionate and prolific voters, lean towards their own age group, which includes Diana DeGarmo and Trias.

Some fans appearing to be casting votes against caustic judge Simon Cowell. When Cowell ripped John Stevens, voters kept him. On Tuesday, Cowell told Trias everyone in Hawaii would need five phones to save her.

The question of racism: Much the same as when black women Fantasia Barrino, LaToya London, and Jennifer Hudson were in the bottom three, some fans wonder whether color is affecting votes.

(Excerpt) Read more at today.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: americanidol
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To: kevkrom

I agree that Fantasia has an attitude problem, and it could get in the way if she ever becomes a star. I was just comparing singing and performing capability. BTW, both girls started performing at the age of 5. I was talking about the extra degree of life experience and maturity that the three years provides. Fantasia has already had a child. Diana is little more than a kid, herself. Makes a difference in what emotion each girl can bring to a song at this stage of their lives. Speaking strictly about musical ability, I like both girls and would not be unhappy if either one became the AI. As for Jasmine, although cute, she's definitely a cut below the other two.


101 posted on 05/14/2004 11:11:56 AM PDT by Wolfstar (I'm sorry the public shrugged when Clinton said truth depended on what the meaning of IS, is.)
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To: Wright is right!
An exception was the first ep of Season Two of "24" which ran something like 53 minutes. Fox gave up a lot of avails (commercial time) to hook the audience into the beginning of that season. They probably did the same with Ep 1 of Season Three, the current one.

They've done the first ep. of each season "commercial-free", though they did a long commercial spot before and after the show. It was very easy to get hooked on 24 in season 1 with a very movie-like first episode without all of the commercials.

24 is great on DVD. (As is Babylon 5, Firefly, Farscape, ...)

102 posted on 05/14/2004 11:12:37 AM PDT by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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To: Wright is right!

I bought Friends Series One on DVD and really liked it. I missed most of King of Queens. I concur with your assessment of tv shows on DVD. I could care less about commercials.


103 posted on 05/14/2004 11:13:14 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Wolfstar
Unless I am much mistaken, Diana is fully Caucasian.

She lives a street over from me and you are correct, sir.

104 posted on 05/14/2004 11:20:02 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: kevkrom
"They've done the first ep. of each season "commercial-free", though they did a long commercial spot before and after the show. It was very easy to get hooked on 24 in season 1 with a very movie-like first episode without all of the commercials."

I'm looking forward to Season Three - haven't seen a minute of it when it airs. It should be on DVD probably come September.

Season Three of CSI will be out, too, but I've seen every ep on tape delay, so I don't know if I'll rent that one. The problem is that there are very few TV shows on DVD that I have much interest in. It might be fun to see a bunch of LA Law, but it's not available. CSI is great, but CSI: Miami leaves me cold, thanks to my distaste for David Caruso.

Speaking of DVD's, my Netflix Queue is empty so I gotta go pick some more things to watch...

Michael

105 posted on 05/14/2004 11:20:32 AM PDT by Wright is right! (It's amazing how fun times when you're having flies.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Thanks. I appreciate the confirmation. Am I also correct in thinking that DiGarmo is an Italian name?


106 posted on 05/14/2004 11:27:27 AM PDT by Wolfstar (I'm sorry the public shrugged when Clinton said truth depended on what the meaning of IS, is.)
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To: Wright is right!
People who have experience with this know how to compensate for the situation - and those who haven't done much of this can easily be tricked by the physics of sound into over-compensating and, thus, be out of tune.

You're dead right about that one. Jasmine has real problems with that very isssue. Tuesday it was literally painful for me to listen to her performances. She also has a knack for picking songs that are absolutely devastating to the ears if there is the slightest pitch issue.

Why wouldn't they give them ear pieces?

107 posted on 05/14/2004 11:29:18 AM PDT by Palmetto (Gorelicker should be given 20 years.........in the chair.)
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To: Wolfstar

Its "DeGarmo" and yes..correct again.


108 posted on 05/14/2004 11:29:43 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: sathers

What I'm trying to figure out is why anyone cares, much less watches the program.


109 posted on 05/14/2004 11:30:09 AM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Indie

Why do people watch sports ...or follow politics?


110 posted on 05/14/2004 11:32:00 AM PDT by k2blader (The equivalent of Nick Berg’s murder happens in our nation every 24 seconds. And it’s legal.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Thanks.


111 posted on 05/14/2004 11:34:47 AM PDT by Wolfstar (I'm sorry the public shrugged when Clinton said truth depended on what the meaning of IS, is.)
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To: Wolfstar
I really should research before answering. DeGarmo is actually a variation of DeGarmeux and is American in origin. Interesting story here.
112 posted on 05/14/2004 11:37:48 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort

A google search brings up a lot of french louisiana families FWIW


113 posted on 05/14/2004 11:41:48 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: k2blader; Indie
Why do people watch sports ...or follow politics?

Indeed. With some 6 billion souls on board this planet, it's just plain common sense that we humans have a wide range of tastes in entertainment. As TV fare goes these days, AI is a clean, old-fashioned, pleasant talent show with a modern twist — the viewing audience gets to vote to keep their favorites on the show. The performers are young and earnest if not always talented, and they don't dress like cheap tarts and pimps (e.g., Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, etc.)

Granted, it's not high-brow stuff, but it's light entertainment somewhat reminiscent of an earlier era.

114 posted on 05/14/2004 11:44:20 AM PDT by Wolfstar (I'm sorry the public shrugged when Clinton said truth depended on what the meaning of IS, is.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Interesting. So going back far enough, the name comes from French roots. In any case, she's a really cute kid with a big talent. I wish her all the best. It will be interesting to see how far any of the former AI's and runner ups go in their careers. Wonderful opportunity for those kids.


115 posted on 05/14/2004 11:53:03 AM PDT by Wolfstar (I'm sorry the public shrugged when Clinton said truth depended on what the meaning of IS, is.)
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To: Wolfstar

Youre right, Diana DiGarmo probably has the right features to be marketed as an 'American Idol.' But if the voting will make that happen, i'm not sure.


116 posted on 05/14/2004 11:59:09 AM PDT by sathers
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To: Indie
What I'm trying to figure out is why anyone cares, much less watches the program.

In my case, I watch it with my nine year old son. There's precious little on network television that is suitable viewing for a pre-teen in prime time. OK, some of Simon's comments can be mean-sounding, but at least I'm not worried about foul language, sexual content, or someone's boob popping out.

I've become a fan of the show, not only because I enjoy vocal music but because I enjoy the "excitement" of getting ready to watch with my boy, and of seeing him get excited about his favorites, and helping him to vote for his choice.

I know it's not high-brow or hip, but not everything has to be.

117 posted on 05/14/2004 12:00:08 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Leroy S. Mort; Wolfstar

Thank you both for clarifying the issue. Can't always believe everything you read on the internet.


118 posted on 05/14/2004 12:02:19 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Wright is right!
I'm looking forward to Season Three - haven't seen a minute of it when it airs. It should be on DVD probably come September.

Complete opposite of Season 2 -- it starts weak and gets much stronger.

119 posted on 05/14/2004 12:03:37 PM PDT by kevkrom (The John Kerry Songbook: www.imakrom.com/kerrysongs)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Unless I am much mistaken, Diana is fully Caucasian.

She lives a street over from me and you are correct, sir.

Her featrures say otherwise and if I am not mistaken they showed some scenes of her life in Georgia and I think a picture of her black father.

120 posted on 05/14/2004 12:07:03 PM PDT by AmusedBystander
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