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Cosby says tough words needed to right wrongs (Cosby flap follow-up)
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 5.22.04 | Bo Emerson

Posted on 05/22/2004 8:12:27 AM PDT by mhking

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To: Friend of thunder
Noah !!!
21 posted on 05/22/2004 8:47:31 AM PDT by gogipper
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To: Riley

Here's the WND article.

In the presence of NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and other African-American leaders, comedian Bill Cosby took aim at blacks who don't take responsibility for their economic status, blame police for incarcerations and teach their kids poor speaking habits.


Bill Cosby

Cosby made his remarks at a Constitution Hall event in Washington Monday night commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education decision that paved the way for integrated schools, reported Richard Leiby in his Reliable Source column for the Washington Post.

Leiby said Cosby's remarks were met with "astonishment, laughter and applause."

When Cosby finally concluded, Leiby said, Mfume, Howard University President H. Patrick Swygert and NAACP legal defense fund head Theodore Shaw came to the podium looking "stone-faced."

Shaw told the crowd most people on welfare are not African American. He insisted many of the problems his organization addresses among blacks are not self-inflicted.

Cosby said, according to Leiby: "Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids – $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'

He added: "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. ... You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"

The Post said Cosby also targeted imprisoned blacks.

"These are not political criminals," he said. "These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, [saying] 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"


22 posted on 05/22/2004 8:48:01 AM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses, rifles for sister sarah)
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To: musical_airman

I'll bet he didn't hear anything anyone said. Which conservative personality? Not Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity I can tell you, not Mark Levine or anyone else I listen to.


23 posted on 05/22/2004 8:49:16 AM PDT by cyborg (tit for tat butter for fat hillary is ugly that's a fact)
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To: cyborg

Well, you know, a lot of people criticize conservatives without ever having listened to what they say.....


24 posted on 05/22/2004 8:51:23 AM PDT by musical_airman (Be an American Patriot- Make Beer!)
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To: mhking

So Cosby is covering his backside now, eh?


25 posted on 05/22/2004 8:54:55 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (Kerry wants to be the leader of the free world. Free for how long? - Zell Miller)
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To: Tax-chick; Riley
loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts

Cosby was flashing sufficient PC bona fides not to be thrown out of the room. It's another manifestation of peer pressure, to which he's less subject than his audience, but subject, nonetheless.

Dr. Bill has true compassion for kids, which is one of the finest ingredients around for making a conservative. At the same time, reflexive name-calling is indicative of the muck to which he's still beholden.

HF

26 posted on 05/22/2004 8:56:11 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden
Cosby was flashing sufficient PC bona fides not to be thrown out of the room. It's another manifestation of peer pressure, to which he's less subject than his audience, but subject, nonetheless.

I suspected as much.

27 posted on 05/22/2004 8:57:07 AM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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To: Friend of thunder

The skit is off of Cosby's "Right" album. It's one of his earier works and hilarious


28 posted on 05/22/2004 8:57:39 AM PDT by Military family member (Stop the bigotry and racism on this site.)
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To: mhking

Funny that only loud mouth conservitives that have been saying the exact thing as Cosby for YEARS are racist. Wonder what that makes Bill? Proof that too much Jello can be toxic to the brain!


29 posted on 05/22/2004 8:57:47 AM PDT by Bommer (John Kerry = "You mean I can get a Purple Heart for cutting myself shaving?")
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To: I still care

"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said."

Even better, if Cosby said something that a racist agrees with, does that make Cosby a racist?


30 posted on 05/22/2004 9:00:35 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: mhking
"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.

Uh, Bill, not nice. Or is Cosby saying his own views are those of racists?

31 posted on 05/22/2004 9:01:08 AM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: mhking

Possibly blacks can reasonably blame white people for a large share of their troubles. First the slavers, then the whites who kept them under Jim Crow laws, then the Democrat politicians who bought and corrupted them with handouts and lies. All those whites share some of the guilt.

BUT, so what? The only people who can fix the problems of blacks are blacks. Everyone has to take hold of his life and teach his children to take hold of their lives. With the help of God's grace, each of us has to learn how to make the right choices, do the right thing, and live what the ancient philosophers called the good life.


32 posted on 05/22/2004 9:01:12 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mhking

I think his "loudmouthed conservative racist announcer" comment was an attempt to regain some street credibility with the people he offended. unfortanately that kind of talk will get him even more marginalized.


33 posted on 05/22/2004 9:01:38 AM PDT by proust
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To: Friend of thunder
Sad isn’t it? We still have a lot of work to do.

There are actually a lot of blacks who would fit in better with Conservatives because they have Conservative values. Somehow liberals convinced too many that they're helping blacks more with all the welfare and freebies --- but deep down they know better --- they just havent' seen the connection yet.

34 posted on 05/22/2004 9:05:41 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: battlegearboat
What's a cubit?

LOL...thanks for bringing back an old childhood memory.
35 posted on 05/22/2004 9:06:09 AM PDT by dixierose (American by birth, Southern by the Grace of God)
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To: musical_airman

Public schools are far from free. They are paid for with taxpayer dollars, and in the case of Indiana, property owners. Don't forget $100 to $200 for books, and other materials.

Granted it is cheeper that private schools. My children attended parochial schools for several years and we paid nearly $600 per child, plus the same $100 to $200 per child for books. This was only because we were members of the church.

Cosby was right, but his comments extend to Whites, hispanics and nearly every other ethnic and racial group. Many parents I have seen at my children's schools simply let the children run wild. Unfortunately, this same group accounts for the largest number of reports for domestic violence and child neglect. The system seems to feed on itself. but it's not just black families; poor white families fall into this same mix, often with the same results.

As an example, I was working as a substitute teacher at a small-town middle school. One student took the stapler off the desk behind my back, and was trying to drive staples into his arms, on a dare from another student. When I took the student to the office, I was fired for "bothering the administration with meaningless reports."


36 posted on 05/22/2004 9:09:29 AM PDT by Military family member (Stop the bigotry and racism on this site.)
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To: mhking

It would be untactful for anyone here to raise the issue of all Qweesie's illegitimate children. I believe that he will admit to having five or six kids with four or five women, none of whom he ever married. But, so long as he talks the talk, it doesn't matter if he doesn't walk the walk because, well, he is a leader of the black community and sets an example by the power of his speech, certainly, on matters of education.


37 posted on 05/22/2004 9:21:10 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: holden
Dr. Bill has true compassion for kids,

I'll accept that as true; however, "compassion" without sense and courage doesn't help anyone. His remarks at this event are certainly realistic, but why can't he use his immense wealth and influence to promote educational choice, which is favored by the majority of black parents?

I don't see how it's possible for him to be "beholden" to anyone, in the sense that some outside force, using the threat of harm, should dictate his opinions. How much courage does it take to be honest, when you're richer than 99.99999% of the world, and all your "enemies" could do to you is say some rude things?

38 posted on 05/22/2004 9:23:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's possible that I look exactly like Olivia DeHavilland.)
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To: mhking

"If I weigh a loudmouthed conservative racist announcer's thoughts and opinions against a 12-year-old child being shot," concern for the child wins, he said.
How about a loudmouthed, radical, racist, black, race baiter such as J.J. Jessie Jackson, or Al Sharpton. Do their thoughts stand above the welfare of a child? I think your unstinting support of them shows where you stand.


39 posted on 05/22/2004 9:23:23 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Tacis

"Hey Coz..who da f**k axed you?"


40 posted on 05/22/2004 9:24:23 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her genes.....any volunteers?)
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