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Israeli Agents Believed Involved in Abu Ghraib
NewsMax ^ | 5-24-04 | Carrl Limbacher

Posted on 05/25/2004 6:13:45 PM PDT by TruthWarrior

Israeli Agents Believed Involved in Abu Ghraib

Diplomatic sources in Washington tell NewsMax's U.N. correspondent Stew Stogel that Israeli nationals are believed to be involved in the Iraq prison controversy.

"Israelis have been to Abu Ghraib and other prisons [in Iraq]," says one source familiar with the U.S. operations.

It was explained that the Israelis involved have been assigned as "civilian contractors" to work with Coalition forces in interrogating Iraqi POWs.

The "contractors" are said to be veterans of Israel's domestic intelligence unit, Shin Bet, as well as the more famous international intelligence agency, the Mossad.

"Who has better experience in dealing with the Arabs than Israel?" one source asked.

It was explained that several of the "interrogation" techniques used by U.S. forces in Iraq have in fact been used by Israel "for years."

The technique of stripping Arab prisoners naked, to embarrass and humiliate them, has been used by Israelis, according to Arab diplomats at the U.N.

It should be noted, however, that torture and mutilation are common techniques used by Arab countries on their prisoners.

Word in NYC diplomatic circles is that some of the "civilians" seen in recent Iraq prison photos are in fact Israeli nationals "advising" U.S. forces.

Neither U.S. nor Iraqi diplomatic officials in NYC or Washington were available for comment.

The charges come after an incident in April in which an Israeli Arab working in Iraq was kidnapped and charged with spying.

Nabil George Yaakob Razouk, an Israeli Arab employed by Research Triangle International, a North Carolina-based firm under contract to the State Department, was abducted by Iraqi insurgents and said to be a spy.

Razouk, working on "local governance" advising, was seized in Najaf and held for more than two weeks.

Only the personal intervention of Yassir Arafat, who acted after pleas from the Razouk family, is believed to have saved him from execution.

The latest disclosures come as an Iraqi diplomatic team has temporarily canceled a visit to U.N. headquarters to consult with the Security Council about the modalities for the transfer of power expected on July 1.

Among the Council ambassadors with whom the Iraqis are expected to meet is U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte.

Negroponte will leave his U.N. post next month to become the new U.S. ambassador to Iraq, once the Coalition authority is dissolved.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqipows
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To: Admin Moderator

I smell troll. Of course the fact that he signed up tomorrow might have tipped me off.


21 posted on 05/25/2004 6:36:03 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: All

Has anyone listened to the tape of Nick Berg's beheading?......supposedly at the end there are terrorists or somebody speaking in English.

It could mean another American John Walker Lindh was at the execution if true....


22 posted on 05/25/2004 6:36:57 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cincinna

Unfortunately, history has shown that to be true.

Russia had pogroms when times got tough.

Germany had a Holocaust.

Anti-semitism seems to be a tried and true method of scapegoating escapism.


23 posted on 05/25/2004 6:37:12 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior

Carl should take a more careful look at his sources.


24 posted on 05/25/2004 6:37:17 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: ChuckHam
Tommorow?

They get brighter every day.

25 posted on 05/25/2004 6:37:32 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: wimpycat

Don't ever forget that Carl Limbacher hates George W. Bush.


26 posted on 05/25/2004 6:38:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: rwfromkansas

I cannot stomach watching something gory like that, so I cannot comment.

However, the liberal bloggers are having a field day trying to discredit the Berg beheading, and they have a vast ocean of crazy conspiracy theories they are using.


27 posted on 05/25/2004 6:38:49 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior
The name Israel does not necessarily indicate someone being Jewish. Israel is a common first name in Catholic Latin America.

It's not his 1st name however. I bet he has dual Israeli-American citizenship..
28 posted on 05/25/2004 6:38:52 PM PDT by qwertz
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To: ChuckHam; TruthWarrior
However, I trust NewsMax and have always had the utmost confidence in their reporting.

Here! Proof positive of his being a troll!

;)

29 posted on 05/25/2004 6:39:20 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: TruthWarrior

I don't have anything against Newsmax, I'm just reading the article like I would read any other article. While I was copying and pasting the phrases in my previous post, and then read them over again by themselves, the whole thing comes off as gossip and hearsay. Who are these sources? If the report had stated something like, "a source at the Pentagon", or "a source at the CIA" it would be different, but it doesn't. "Word in NYC diplomatic circles" is not a credible source, if you're looking for facts. The most you can deduce from this article is that some people are saying certain things, but nothing has been verified. For a story like this, a source at the Pentagon or CIA would have been much more credible, or at the very least an attempt to get an offical comment from them, but there is no evidence they did, or they would have said something like "Pentagon officials refused to comment" or "Pentagon officials were unavailable for comment."


30 posted on 05/25/2004 6:39:58 PM PDT by wimpycat ("The road to the promised land runs past Sinai."-C.S. Lewis)
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To: TruthWarrior; dennisw; SJackson; veronica
The name Israel does not necessarily indicate someone being Jewish.

ROFLMAO. Are you for real?

31 posted on 05/25/2004 6:40:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TruthWarrior
However, I trust NewsMax and have always had the utmost confidence in their reporting.

You've made that clear.

32 posted on 05/25/2004 6:40:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Howlin
Don't ever forget that Carl Limbacher hates George W. Bush.

This is news to me, but I must admit that the machinations of the NewsMax operation often flies below my radar screen.

33 posted on 05/25/2004 6:40:34 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

I wish the article would have been more clear on sources.

However, it is so common for news articles and reports to say, "So and so said this or that on condition of anonymity".


34 posted on 05/25/2004 6:40:38 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: antaresequity

Limbacher does not like Bush; do not be fooled.


35 posted on 05/25/2004 6:40:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I have met Cuban-Americans and Mexican-Americans with the first name of Israel.

It seems to be a Christian way of showing veneration of the foundation of our faith in Christ.


36 posted on 05/25/2004 6:41:50 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior

Most journalists will at least use the fig leaf of "senior administration official". For all we know, Carl's sources could be the voices in his head.


37 posted on 05/25/2004 6:41:53 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude; Miss Marple; kcvl

That's because you got here in November of 2000; some of the nastiest stories about Bush came right off that web site in the run up to the election.


38 posted on 05/25/2004 6:42:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: AmishDude

NewsMax does really good on online traffic ratings.

I feel that give reliable news, that I could never find in a print newspaper or on TV.


39 posted on 05/25/2004 6:43:05 PM PDT by TruthWarrior
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To: TruthWarrior
However, it is so common for news articles and reports to say, "So and so said this or that on condition of anonymity".

It's VERY common at NewsMax. Most of their stories are cuts and pastes from other stories, sometimes almost word for word.

40 posted on 05/25/2004 6:43:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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