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Posted on 05/30/2004 12:05:02 AM PDT by JustPiper
Private messaging to those requesting?
I heard/read the same thing somewhere.
Taking a little break from the kitchen. Been a rather hectic day. Have 14 people coming for what was supposed to be a "cook out".......with the inclement weather, it is now a "cook in". We are honoring my father, one of the "Greatest Generation" He was in the South Pacific, 1943-1945. He is now 87 years old.(Retired Air Force) In spite of the bad weather, my Dad, Mr. RR , our son, and son-in -law are all at the golf course. Daddy still walks and carries his own golf bag. He's a pretty amazing guy.....my hero.
A blessed and peaceful Memorial Day to all here. Don't ever forget "my hero" and all the others who fought and died to keep us free.
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It would only have been published or reported by our media if they had underwear on their heads, providing them with a lead to go back to the prison story.
Thanks RR, and back at you. I hope your dad sees many more years.
Would someone call 911 please?
May I have the date as well?
Please??
You know we're all going to ask, so save your fingers and just post it. -Grin- That way you'll only have to type it out once.
This article was written Wednesday, May 26th, but it has more about the rent - a - mob.
Protest parade a 'Go' - 05-26-2004
http://www.savannahnow.com/stories/052504/2186912.shtml
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Savannah is about a two or three hours drive away from where the G 8 will take place. This protest parade is just an excuse to vandalize and destroy. No difference from the muslim terrorist, IMO.
In addition, all it is going to take is another spike in oil, or another attack to send at least 3 major airlines immediately into bankruptcy. DL UA US.
AA would be next.
CO and NW are the healthiest.
What do the ME jihadis have to do to be arrested? Heck, plenty DID do something that are in Gitmo and THEY are released!!
We are on our own. Do not ever forget it.
and the government when it all goes to pieces..will NOT be your friend. Trust me on that.
How about a private reply with the "postings (plural)", please!!!
mark
SP2BF, Me too, please. TMG
Oh, please let me know.
From www.homelandsecurityus.net
Continuing...
It is worth noting here that in the interim between dealing with the FBI in Washington DC and hooking up with my delegated contact on the local level, some events happened. Specifically, the bombing in Riyadh, the 48 hour threat last May, which raised the DHS threat level to "Orange", a bomb going off at a McDonalds restaurant in Beirut, and an assasination attempt on Donald Rumsfield at Baghdad Airport, (you are probably not familiar with that as it was not broadcast in the US media). How does that all tie in??? Here you go...it will make your stomach turn...
The FBI was notified 4 days before the bombing in Riyadh, as well as Rewards For Justice that it was going to occur, yet did nothing to stop it..Several lives were lost!
On May 20, 2004 the threat level was raised from 'Yellow" to "Orange" because of an imminent threat to the United States within 48 hours. I was told by my contact at FBI Headquarters that I had submitted the first threat regarding our coastlines being in danger. This is the original threat that was submitted:
The Arab arena : The yards The political arena * an urgent is a killing hit danger against America a next to the Allah wanted - during 48 hour
Eager to the fact 19-5-2003 18:10
The In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful
To Bush and to the American intelligences and from and the concern from the hypocrites¡¡¡ the next hit to the Allah during 48 wanted the next hour¡¡¡¡ and to the Allah wanted that will convulse your heart¡¡¡¡¡ and beg from all of the Moslem of the remoteness about the main cities in the United States and Nioriork ( edit- New York) specially¡¡¡ Washington¡¡¡ and about the commercial beaches and the Allah know .
The Allah is the greatest and the Allah with you the rule Yaabtal
The Allah is the greatest and the Allah with you the rule Yaabtal
The Allah is the greatest and the Allah with you the rule Yaabtal
I swear by the great Allah who raised the sky without a going that America will not dream and no who lives in America by the security ....
And this is what the media said the next day:
United States goes on orange alert
Officials: 'Chatter' hints U.S. attack might be planned
Tuesday, May 20, 2003 Posted: 9:38 PM EDT (0138 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- -- The United States raised the nation's terror threat level Tuesday, saying the U.S. intelligence community believes al Qaeda has entered an "operational period worldwide" and might attack within the United States.
But then it went further:
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said there is no "credible, specific information" about targets or method of attack, but he noted that recent terrorist attacks overseas have included "small arms-equipped assault teams, large vehicle-borne explosive devices and suicide bombers.
You figure it out....I never could!
On May 1, 2003, a threat was discovered on a suspect terrorist website about an assassination attempt to be made on US Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfield. The FBI was notified of this. Their response? It will make you sick to your stomach. I was told that they were not concerned about threats to higher government officials as they got threats everyday and that they had plenty of Secret Service personnel to cover them. I was further told that they were not even going to notify anyone, (Secret Service, etc) about the threat and I was boldly told no.
This is the link to the thread in its actual Arabic form:
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That afternoon (May 1), that threat was carried out. Fortunately for Secretary of Defense Rumsfield and the brave Secret Service personnel assigned to protect him, it was unsuccessful. There was no media coverage in the United States about this, however, a further post on an Arabic forum confirms it, as well as a news release from CNN Arabic! Why was it hidden from the American public, and why wasn't it important enough to pass along the information?????
The following is the text of the Arabic confrimation:
An attempt to Rumsfeld assassination ¿ the Allah is the greatest
Did the Iraqi resistance is attack Bntfith on the procession of Donald Rumsfeld US Secretary of Defense in the international airport of Baghdad during his departure today at noon thursday except that he managed the rescue .
And confirmed American sources to the network of the CNN of the American news that the bus of Donald Rumsfeld US Secretary of Defense¡ to the firing¡¡ and that is during the procession movement towards Baghdad ’s international airport . And security officials in the procession informed that the bus was exposed to bullets a dense .
And I remember that the Iraqi resistance she has succeeded today thursday from the injury of 8 American soldiers in Al-Faloga by extreme injuries in an attack for her by the hand grenades on American camps in the city that witnessed Amrikiit massacres against the unarmed citizens in the middle of Al-Faloga . And was Rumsfeld¡ he has arrived to Iraq yesterday wednesday¡ a next from Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia¡ within the framework of a tour to the Arab Region .
The Allah is the greatest ....Bshair raved a good to the Allah wanted
Here is the Translated Arabic Version of a CNN press Release on Rumsfield:
Fires on Rumsfeld procession in Baghdad
1209 (GMT+04:00) - 01/05/03
Baghdad¡ Iraq ( a CNN - - a bus in US Secretary of Defense procession was exposed¡ Donald Rumsfeld¡ to the firing¡¡ and that is during the procession movement towards Baghdad ’s international airport .
And security officials in the procession informed that the bus was exposed to at least three bullets¡ and but she did not afflict any of her . And security forces accompanying to Rumsfeld did not come about the fires source .
And from another side declared Rumsfeld during his visit to Afghanistan is thursday about the end of the greatest military operations there and that in a press conference he held him in Medina .
And officials said that Ramfsild advertisement facilitates the way to the participation of other countries by her forces in reconstruction operations¡ and the human operations¡ and to the stability provision
And Rumsfeld have arrived to the Afghan capital Kabul at night thursday in tour end she included many countries from between her Iraq and Kuwait .
And on another level¡ the Rumsfeld of the Iraqi nation called wednesday for the aid of the American forces on the officials detention in the era of the dismissed president Saddam Hussein who the arrest on them until now did not complete .
And the Iraqi Rumsfeld student also by the assistance of the American forces to the finding on " the foreign fighters " the offices boy " to a kidnapping " Iraq .
And he was Rumsfeld¡ he has done a visit to Iraq wednesday¡ about what is considered the bigger American official he visits the countries since the toppling by the dismissed Iraqi president regime¡ Saddam Hussein .
And Rumsfeld started a tour him in Iraq by the stop in Al-Basrah¡ a second is the biggest Iraqi cities¡ where the American Forces Commander and the British one informed him about a last the situation latest developments in Medina . And her remoteness Rumsfeld headed for the Iraqi capital Baghdad .
And a saying Rumsfeld in Al-Basrah " we have managed to huge amount liberation from the mankind ( the Iraqi nation ) from a strict regime grip .
More to Follow.....
Amen and well said. Here is the proof of your wisdom:
This article from right here on FR from a few years ago showcases the Executive Orders that await us in the aftermath of a massive terrorist attack. These orders have been active since the JFK years and were strengthened and tied together by both Republican and RAT Presidents since! This stuff is terrifying. Glad I'm a Believer. Amen, come Lord Jesus.
I want to know too!!! I just looged on and saw everybody asking you so I want in on it! LOL
I just looged on???.........logged on
Blessings to your Dad. Tell him the TM holds him in high regard.
Good sissyjane. Let's all keep up the pressure! We'll get the info out of her yet. :)
All I have is a date, and that was alluded to, although in a very cryptic fashion, in several previous issues of Voice of Jihad. I have no clue (other than some educated guesses based on other information in the issues of Voice of Jihad and Al Battar, as well as various posts on the Arabic forums) as to what or where. I really do not want to frighten people unnecessarily.
By the way, on the Al Khobar attacks this weekend, you might want to look at my article, published on May 15 at NEIN at http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/May2004/battar10.asp. (I'll be posting the information from issue 11 of Al Battar later tonight or tomorrow.)
15 May 2004 - Summary & Analysis “Kidnapping & Hostage Taking” Excerpted from Camp al Battar, Issue 10
Issue Theme: Military Science: “Kidnapping & Hostage Taking”
Written by: Hajab Abdel Aziz Abu Al Moqrim (from Al Battar, Issue 10)
This issue of Camp Al Battar, Al Qaeda’s online training magazine, is a continuation of detailed training of terrorists and militants in the practical and detailed concepts of kidnapping and hostage taking. This specific chapter is written in the form of a textbook style lesson that explains the methods of carrying out kidnappings of multiple targets, which is an extension of a previous article on the process of kidnapping a single target. Al Battar provides exceptionally extensive and detailed instructions on the proper techniques to be employed in the various kidnapping scenarios, from surveillance of specific targets to the disposition of the hostages.
It is important to note that the acts of global terrorism that have been performed over the last several months have followed the pattern established by each release of this manual. For example, issue 9 of Camp al Battar have addressed the methodical assassinations of public figures; within thirty days of the release of that issue, the world saw the assassination of Akhamd Kadyrov, President of Chechnya, pictured at left. The kidnapping of Thomas Hamill, an American contractor working in Iraq and pictured below, was kidnapped 9 April 2004 in a scenario that closely mirrored the detailed instructions of kidnapping individuals that were contained in an issue of al Battar released close to the time the kidnapping. It is incumbent upon the recipient of this analysis to understand that the latest series of terrorist events has closely followed the contents of these publications. By being aware of the topics within these publications, the reader has an increased awareness of the military style planning and is in a better position to defend against possible acts of terrorism as identified in each of these publications. Although the above examples illustrate events that have taken place outside of the United States, we caution the reader to be aware of the closing statement contained in this issue, which appears to refer to the possible activation of sleeper cells in the US and other countries:
“The ones who believe and emigrated and will fight for Allah's sake with their money and their souls to the utmost degree and they are willing. Their lord grants them mercy and satisfaction in their lives and paradise for them after they finish their task. They will be immortal in paradise and Allah has for them a great reward.”
Background: About Al Battar
Until the US invasion of Afghanistan put a screeching and explosive halt to the process, a would-be terrorist had to travel halfway around the world to get “state of the art” training in the training facilities operated by Al Qaeda.
Those training facilities have been effectively destroyed, and although replacements have sprung up in various locations, most notably Saudi Arabia, these training centers cannot handle the volume of students that Al Qaeda must process in order to continue its quest for worldwide domination.
The masterminds behind Al Qaeda, just like many major corporations, made a decision last fall to expand their training operations onto the internet with the launch of a monthly magazine called Al Battar.
Al Battar derives its name from the Sword of the Prophets. The original Al Battar is an ancient relic that is said to have originally belonged to King David of Biblical fame, and was used to cut off the head of Goliath, and was later taken as booty in battle by the Prophet Mohamed. Islamic traditions claim that this sword will be used by Jesus when he returns to earth to defeat Dajjal, the Islamic Anti-Christ. This sword, which is currently located in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbel, is inscribed in Arabic with the names of the prophets revered by Islam: David, Solomon, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, Zechariah, John, Jesus, and Muhammad.
In an effort to maintain the tradition of victory that is associated with the phrase Al Battar, the authors go into extensive detail each month, providing explicit directions in a wide range of topics that are essential for the well-prepared Mujhad, or warrior.
Content Summary
This issue of Camp Al Battar consists of 40 pages, with the primary focus of the publication giving practical and detailed instruction on the process of kidnapping and hostage taking of groups of people for various purposes, including but not limited to ransom and political idealism. The “lesson” provides specific instructions on how to conduct preliminary investigation and surveillance of the intended targets and the conveyances from which they will be taken (e.g. tour busses, airplanes). The lesson also outlines preparation for the kidnapping, such as preliminary observation of the route, the location of intended takeover, and the destination of the targets.
The article describes surveillance of certain specific location, such as national landmarks and buildings where tour groups commonly visit, and also extends into areas such as truck stops and rest stops when specifically targeting motor vehicles and buses. With regard to aircraft, the text describes the various levels of security at airports, and references the overall poor security that reportedly exists in airline lounges at airports.
Groups of individuals that could be considered enviable targets were identified as groups traveling for corporations, tours, and contracting groups traveling in caravans. There are references to previous issues that identified political motorcades as targets as well, to the extent of addressing security of such groups. Also, the text outlined surveillance of an intended destination and the security in place at that location. There was a significant focus on providing instructions on methods of establishing and utilizing effective pretexts and subterfuge to fool security at such locations. Impersonation of both governmental and non-governmental personnel for the purpose of gaining access to restricted locations was also detailed, with the pros and cons of each pretext identified.
The initial portion of the article detailed the preparation and strategy for the takeover and control of the conveyance and the passengers. The following portion of this article or detailed lesson specifically identified the different compartmentalized groups or cells that will take part in the kidnapping, with particular emphasis on limited knowledge between groups to avoid the possibility of compromising the operation if caught and subjected to interview and interrogation.
The text described the necessary traits of those involved in the actual kidnapping; it is necessary for those who control the hostages to be psychologically and physically strong to avoid unnecessary emotion and to overpower anyone who might attempt heroic acts. The use of deadly force to the extent it is necessary at the time of takeover was discussed, as was the emphasis on being adept at hand-to-hand combat skills.
As outlined in the text, the importance of separating the hostages into different groups for control purposes was detailed. It was recommended that the young and older men are kept separate from the women and children. The hostages should be carefully monitored, and the persons in charge of each group must avoid close contact and avoid any sexual inclination to the women. All contact with the hostages must remain depersonalized and detached.
The article outlined the process of transporting the hostages from the place of kidnapping to a safer location, and described the most suitable location for the storage of hostages as anywhere that would not draw attention. Urban and rural areas are cited as desirable, or houses in areas that would not draw attention by the presence of unknown people. The overall key, according to the text, is to blend into the surroundings if it is not possible for complete seclusion.
When transporting hostages, the lesson stated that it is important to insure that they have no idea of their destination or current location, which can be accomplished through blindfolds, drugs or the use of agents to temporarily incapacitate the hostages.
The text also described using ambulances as a practical conveyance when transporting single or few hostages. If the destination is a house or dwelling for safekeeping, it should be one with multiple exits if rapid escape is necessary. There is detailed discussion about possible rescue attempts and the use of flash grenades and other weapons used by rescuing authorities.
The issue of negotiation with government bodies and law enforcement was discussed in detail. It was state that the authorities will likely not give into the demand of the kidnappers, stall, and employ many tactics to secure the release of the hostages. To establish the serious intent of the kidnappers, the article stated that killing a hostage for show is sometimes necessary and desirable. In that event, select someone who might represent a danger to the operation, but leave the most important person or dignitary for last. During the negotiation, if food is sent in for the hostages, the text suggests that the oldest and youngest hostages retrieve the food and that it is taste-tested before being eaten to insure that it has not been tampered. If the plan allows for the exchange of any hostage for any purpose, young children and women should be the first allowed to leave, as young children will rarely recall important details when debriefed.
In addition to the actual act of hostage taking and the maintaining of hostages, the text describes the possible outcomes of the hostage scenario. In summary, the article suggests that the ultimate disposition of the hostages is unimportant. They can be killed without reservation if it is necessary.
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