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To: fight_truth_decay; Ernest_at_the_Beach; snopercod; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; randita; Carry_Okie
I have heard quite a bit recently about these tapes, in the hope that they are the "smoking gun" that will allow some PNW utilties to get FERC to change its mind and force the bankruptcy Judge in the Enron case to provide for a bigger share of money to move toward these utilities and allow them to reduce their Enron-related obligations to the federal bankruptcy court.

I am not sure what will happen when the dust settles, but I doubt that it will change much at FERC. Part of the problem is that it is very difficult to retroactively unwind all of the short term and power market spot sales. It is even harder to figure out who made money and who lost money. If there was a big pot of money that Enron and others had, it would be easier to come up with a solution.

As it is now, a lot of "innocent" PNW public utilities got hammered by high prices to keep the lights on in California. They are fighting that tooth and nail and want to reset the clock and get refunds.

8 posted on 06/02/2004 3:37:55 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Robert357
What these tapes mostly show is that some Enron employees had foul mouths and were enjoying the dysfunctional market in California. Their actual evidentiary value is not terribly high, except for that one quote where the employee was recommending taking a power plant offline.

A good report would have included information as to whose plant that was, and whether it was in fact taken offline. But the purpose of this story was not to provide facts or context. It was to smear George Bush, even though he had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

11 posted on 06/02/2004 3:48:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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The media realizes that have to resurrect another dead horse to try to beat on the President again.

Ridiculous!


77 posted on 06/02/2004 9:11:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Robert357

Does anyone know how these tapes were obtained? They seem like a Hollywood parody of corporate evildoers. I know there are true creeps in the world, but these conversations sound too bad to be true; they reiterate every Hollywood stereotype about evil corporations: robbing grandma, laughing at the unfortunate, the references to evil Republicans and the Bush administration, etc. Do we know for sure that these tapes are authentic?


101 posted on 06/10/2004 1:42:34 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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