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Gay parents of quads have separated; court records show dispute
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | June 20, 2004 | Valarie Honeycutt Spears

Posted on 06/20/2004 3:43:27 PM PDT by RockDoc

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To: megatherium

"I also know gay men who are in monogamous long-term relationships. One couple I know has little to do with 'mainstream' gay culture, because it is so unhealthy."

Want an eye-opener? Pay a 14 year old boy to come on to one of them sometime.

"I have trouble reconciling my understanding of the Scriptures with my friends' lifestyle, but I am willing to let them make their own moral choice -- we will all stand before God in the end."

Friends don't let friends condemn themselves to Hell. Rebuking sinners is one of the seven spiritual acts of mercy.


41 posted on 06/20/2004 7:10:22 PM PDT by dsc
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To: ValerieUSA
"Verity is simply engaging in the slave trade with her own body and her progeny. That's sick and oughtn't be legal.

My gawd, do you suppose she was breeding babies for the money?

42 posted on 06/20/2004 7:48:58 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: megatherium

That's a funny joke. I think the Gay men who have been together for a long time, like my friends, were Gay before it was fashionable and really had to go through a lot of crap. You're right though, the ones who have been together for a long time are quiet about it because it truly is their business, not mine. I agree with you.


43 posted on 06/20/2004 7:55:26 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: RockDoc

I was wrong - it was quadruplets, not quints. But the point is the same. And if was in vitro, eh? Sick drama, all around. To bring children into the world for those purposes is pure evil.


44 posted on 06/20/2004 8:00:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://www.mikegabbard.com - A REAL conservative running for US Congress.)
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To: RockDoc
Last year, Verity tried unsuccessfully in Jessamine County Circuit Court to terminate her parental rights to the quadruplets. An attorney appointed by the court to represent the quadruplets said in a report that Verity should remain their legal mother. The attorney's report said the babies need a mother and a father. It disagreed with Verity's decision that Meehan and Dysarz would be the quadruplets' parents. Earlier this year, Verity gave birth to Dysarz's biological child. She said she entered into another in-vitro pregnancy so that all the children could be biological siblings.

This is a very sick world we live in...
45 posted on 06/20/2004 8:03:46 PM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: sinkspur
Phelps is a faux-minister who hides behind religion to propagate hate.

He's also a faux-hater. He's a propaganda tool of the gaystapo--the perfect straw man.
46 posted on 06/20/2004 8:05:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: Antoninus

"He's a propaganda tool of the gaystapo--the perfect straw man."

That's a fascinating notion. Is there anything to back it up?


47 posted on 06/20/2004 8:51:07 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Redmen4ever
Being the non-custodial parent of five children, this woman will have rights of visitation and obligations of child support.

She certainly should be paying child support for all 5 children --- non-custodial fathers don't get to get out of that --- any parent who abuses or neglects their children should have to undergo sterilization.

48 posted on 06/20/2004 9:25:34 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: RockDoc
In response to Phelps' protest, some Central Kentucky residents rallied around the men and launched a counter-demonstration, Rally for a Hate-Free Lexington.

Typical PC gobble-di-gook!!! It's hateful for a Christian minister to openly disagree with the bastardization of his faith??!!??!! I'm embarrassed and disapointed in our diocese of Lexington.

49 posted on 06/20/2004 9:52:49 PM PDT by EsclavoDeCristo (So you say you're Catholic, well LIVE IT!)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
It's hateful for a Christian minister to openly disagree with the bastardization of his faith??!!??!! I'm embarrassed and disapointed in our diocese of Lexington.

Before you defend Fred Phelps, find out what he's all about. There are links upthread.

50 posted on 06/20/2004 10:00:50 PM PDT by Dianna
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Good call. No I had not read the previous threads about Phelps. I just went to his site and saw this picture. Not too impressed by it.
51 posted on 06/20/2004 10:22:18 PM PDT by EsclavoDeCristo (So you say you're Catholic, well LIVE IT!)
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To: RockDoc; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

52 posted on 06/21/2004 6:07:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terri Schindler-Schiavo!)
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To: RockDoc
Verity, who has three children of her own, initially agreed to conceive a child with Meehan because she thought he and Dysarz would be good parents, she has said.

Heartwarming. Stop the world I want to get off.

53 posted on 06/21/2004 6:14:00 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: RockDoc

FYI, in vitro fertilization almost never results in high order multiples -- twins often, and in very rare cases triples. But when you see 3 or more, it's almost always the result of using fertility drugs WITHOUT in vitro fertilization. With IVF, doctors strictly limit the number of embryos transferred to the uterus -- if there are a lot of extras, they're generally frozen for future use or donation. With drugs alone, many eggs can be released, and thus many can be fertilized in utero, resulting in the high order multiples.


54 posted on 06/21/2004 7:53:53 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: dsc
"He's a propaganda tool of the gaystapo--the perfect straw man."

That's a fascinating notion. Is there anything to back it up?


Someone on another thread mentioned it, but I just used deductive reasoning: Anyone using that sort of rhetoric in such a public fashion would have been shut down long ago by the Gaystapo if he were in any way effective. That the mainstream media pays so much attention to him indicates that they realize how useful he is to the homo-promo cause. Again, if he were effective, they'd either try to shut him down, or ignore him.

A brief web search also revealed that Mr. Phelps is (surprise!) a democrat who claimed at to be "liberal" back in the 1960s....
55 posted on 06/21/2004 11:00:47 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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Are there any devout Catholics on this thread who wouldn't mind answering some questions I have about Catholicism via Freepmail?

Thanks!

56 posted on 06/21/2004 6:16:08 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: RockDoc

this story makes me sick man! Any surrogate parent whom nominates himself/herself to help parent children for homosexuals shall be blighted as sinners and condemned for prommelgating the homosexual agenda and bringing "orphans" to the homosexual agenda i.e little boys and girls who shall be confused and unwise to traditional families, may God forgive these wicked souls!


57 posted on 06/21/2004 9:02:01 PM PDT by BlindedByTruth (Catholic born, Catholic pride, Catholic even when I die!)
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To: RockDoc

bump with no comment


58 posted on 06/21/2004 9:04:26 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname

I can try to answer some of your questions.


59 posted on 06/21/2004 9:16:42 PM PDT by M007
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
Are there any devout Catholics on this thread who wouldn't mind answering some questions I have about Catholicism via Freepmail?

I would be happy to try to answer all of your questions but I probably won't be on line until tomarrow. Have a good night:-}

60 posted on 06/21/2004 9:20:17 PM PDT by M007
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