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It’s Morning After in America (Long but Awesome read - We are winning the culture war!!)
City Journal ^ | Spring 2004 | Kay S. Hymowitz

Posted on 06/24/2004 5:51:37 PM PDT by qam1

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1 posted on 06/24/2004 5:51:40 PM PDT by qam1
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To: *Culture_War; qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; ...
Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

2 posted on 06/24/2004 5:56:20 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1
"The 30-somethings who are today’s young parents show every sign of keeping the hearth fires burning bright."

It's not the 30 somethings, it's us 'tweeners' Those who are not really baby boomers, and those not really the gen-xers, but got stuck with those labels who are raising the "Millennials". A thirty year old was born in 1974, a 40 year old was born in 1964.

I have 3 kids, 1982, 1983 and 1986. The millennials are conservative as anyone, and most of their friends are too. They join the military, they are fighting for our country right now. Most of their parents support them, and, from my point of view, are not giving them everything as the older boomers are. We are a generation in our own right, too young for Viet Nam, but remember values, had dinner at the table ever night with our families, and are trying to establish those same values in our kids.

This next generation is our hope and future.
3 posted on 06/24/2004 6:04:00 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: qam1

History indicates that the pendulum goes back and forth. Some great civilizations have grown old and corrupt and gone down the tubes, but I don't think America is ready yet for that, despite the best efforts of those in the media, academia, and the entertainment industry to make it so.

In the Catholic Church the dissenters are getting older and older, and few are taking their places. Tragically a lot of younger Catholics have dropped out because they were miseducated in the faith by these dissenters; but the Church as a whole is starting to turn around.

Some institutions are so far gone they may never recover. The Ivy League Colleges, for instance, may simply be replaced by other institutions who do a better job of educating their students. Religious orders will collapse and others will take their places. The Democrats may implode, leaving some third party the change to become the new second party.

Let's hope. America still has a lot of flexibility, a lot of energy, and a lot of promise.


4 posted on 06/24/2004 6:13:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: qam1; shaggy eel; Indie; longtermmemmory; AMDG&BVMH; Dog Gone; Orangedog; Nick Danger
Man hater Hymowitz wrote:
"For the children of divorce who are now in their childbearing years, such sunny talk grates. They saw their mothers forced to move to one-bedroom apartments while their fathers went off with new girlfriends; they found out what it was like when your father moved from being the love object who read to you every night, to a guy who lives across the country whom you see once a year."

Commentary Magazine published one of my rebuttal letters against Hymowitz' man hating a few years ago. I see that she hasn't stopped writing her hit pieces against men, even though we're beginning to have some success at taking away feminism's "sexual freedom." See the cites to references in the first of the following to prove the opposite of what she wrote.

"Driving the Divorce Rate: Who’s Teaching the Women?"

"Cover for adultery major factor in domestic violence allegations by wives"

60% of wives commit adultery, etc. (Free Republic)

The truth about domestic violence
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1154133/posts?page=43#43

Feminism is a tool of Communism.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1154133/posts
5 posted on 06/24/2004 6:29:57 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Indy Pendance
We are a generation in our own right, too young for Viet Nam, but remember values, had dinner at the table ever night with our families, and are trying to establish those same values in our kids.

Interesting demographics ... my husband was born in 1962, I was born in 1966. We have 4 children at the late end of the "Millenium" bracket (1991, 1994, 1996, 1998) and three in whatever they call the next batch (2000, 2001, 2004).

I hope this is accurate: " ... the cohort of kids born between 1981 and 1999: they’re looking more like Jimmy Stewart than James Dean. They adore their parents, they want to succeed, they’re optimistic, trusting, cooperative, dutiful, and civic-minded.

6 posted on 06/24/2004 6:37:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tautologies are the only horses I bet on. -- Old Professer)
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To: Cicero

I see this on my advice website. The younger ones look for conservative advice. The screaming forties and fifties hate me.


7 posted on 06/24/2004 6:37:39 PM PDT by mlmr (Tag-less - Tag-free, anti-tag, in-tag-able, without tag, under-tagged, tag-deprived...)
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To: Tax-chick
We really are our own generation. The 'boomer' label doesn't fit, nor does the 'gen Xer' label. But, it's our kids who are late teens, early twenties that are rejecting what the media forces them to do. I see it with my kids all the time. They can only find slutty clothes, so they buy tee-shirts and jeans from the boys department. One is in the Army, one is in nursing school, one is finishing up high school, they also come to me for all sorts of advice. We try to have dinner, but because they are older, with jobs, etc, it's tough, but we do have more family breakfasts than dinners.
8 posted on 06/24/2004 6:43:23 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
The 'boomer' label doesn't fit, nor does the 'gen Xer' label.

No, there definitely should be something in between. Maybe there aren't that many of us? Our oldest child is only 13, and our youngest "Millenium" is 6 ... a "generation" that's born 1981 - 1999 covers a lot of ground!

9 posted on 06/24/2004 6:50:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tautologies are the only horses I bet on. -- Old Professer)
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To: Tax-chick

So does a generation from 1945 to 1964 (boomers)


10 posted on 06/24/2004 6:52:17 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
The term for your demographic is Generation Jones

The Site says 1954 - 1964 but I think it probably should start more like 1958 or 1959.

I should have this link posted whenever I do a Xer ping because it seems someone always brings it up.

But anyhow

If 1999 is the cutoff for the Ys than Gen-X (oldest 39) would be the parents of many of the younger/mid teens. Either way I do believe the improving trend is because Generation Jones and Gen-X have taken over as being the majority of parents instead of the me,me,me Hippy baby boomers and I think they will continue to improve as the Xer's security moms replace the Generation Jones' soccer moms.

11 posted on 06/24/2004 6:53:10 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: Indy Pendance

I wonder how they decide these things. I guess it's unmistakeable that the Baby Boom began around 1945, but where's the other end come from?


12 posted on 06/24/2004 6:54:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tautologies are the only horses I bet on. -- Old Professer)
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I wonder how they decide these things. I guess it's unmistakeable that the Baby Boom began around 1945, but where's the other end come from?

The Baby Bust. In 1965 the birth rates collapsed which is where the Xers start and which is why Gen-X is often referred to as the Baby Busters

The Birth rates picked up again in 1976 so it's often used as the start of Gen-Y or the Echo Boom. Though often 1982 is the start because the milestone year 2000 would have been the year they graduated High school hence their name Millennials.

13 posted on 06/24/2004 7:04:05 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: ValerieUSA
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

14 posted on 06/24/2004 7:40:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: qam1
"According to the 1991 Youth Risk Behavior Survey, 54 percent of teens reported having had sex; a decade later, the number was 46 percent."
Given the state of pablik skulz, I am not sure that all the teens in 2001 understood the question before answering it...
15 posted on 06/24/2004 8:16:30 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: qam1

I was born in 1977, my brother in 1981. Vehicles such as the Honda Element or the Toyota Scion appeal to neither of us so I don't think we're Gen-Y, but rather, Gen-X. At least, that's how I figured it out. All of the cars that are marketed to Gen-Yers I find to be horrendously ugly.


16 posted on 06/24/2004 8:26:25 PM PDT by brianl703
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To: qam1

Great article. Not 100%, but a hell of a lot better at putting things together than most other perspectives I've seen written.


17 posted on 06/24/2004 8:38:11 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: qam1

read later


18 posted on 06/24/2004 10:01:53 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: qam1

save for later and BUMP


19 posted on 06/24/2004 10:04:31 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: mlmr

" The younger ones look for conservative advice. The screaming forties and fifties hate me."

I've made that observation as well.


20 posted on 06/24/2004 10:12:27 PM PDT by AuntB ("Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is our problem!" Ronald Reagan)
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