How is taking an illegal drug immoral so it comes under the state's jurisdiction rather than God's? 
Posted on 07/02/2004 1:37:39 PM PDT by Wolfie
Doctor Who Recommended Medical Pot Gets Restraining Order vs. Ashcroft
A federal judge awarded a West Slope doctor who recommends medical marijuana a temporary restraining order against Attorney General John Ashcroft. Mollie Fry, whose clinic in Cool was raided by federal agents three years ago, will appear in a San Francisco court next week to hear whether a judge will make the order permanent.
"I feel beaten and I'm asking him to stop beating me," Fry said.
The temporary restraining order, approved by U.S. District Court Judge William Alsup, elated Fry.
"We need to continue to struggle against those who would take our freedom away," she said. "I mean, hello, what more freedom do you have than to choose?"
Soon after Fry's restraining order was approved, Charles Miller, a spokesman for Ashcroft's office, said he was waiting to see it.
"I'm not familiar with it as yet," Miller said. "There's all kinds of things out there that have been filed against the government."
During the July 8 hearing, Laurence Lichter, Fry's San Francisco-based attorney, will attempt to give proof that the federal government is harassing his client.
Alsup is the judge who in September 2000 banned the federal government from prosecuting doctors who recommend medical marijuana to chronic patients.
He also ruled federal agents can't revoke a doctor's license to practice medicine - and investigators can't begin a case on a physician - just because they recommend medical marijuana.
Lichter said Fry's order could expand Alsup's 2000 ruling.
"It's the first time that any doctor has had any evidence that the government violated the federal injunction," he said.
In September 2001, agents raided the clinic Fry and her husband, attorney Dale Schafer, operates. Medical records for about 400 South Shore residents were seized, as well as items in a storage shed the couple rented.
Some files were returned.
Fry's Drug Enforcement Administration certificate has been pulled, which means she can't prescribe drugs like Vicodin. She still can recommend medical marijuana.
The doctor plans to bring her contingency to San Francisco next week, including some media.
"I'm not punching. I'm treading water," she said. "All I want to do is protect the innocent."
"Theys gots to haves them drugs...."
That is the end result and by any means the goal to be achieved by the liberal libertarians and drug addicts.
It depends on the ailment. The THC cannabinoid in marijuana helps with nausea and appetite, and a synthetic version of it is available in pill form as Marinol® (dronabinol).
Sativex® has been submitted for approval by GW Pharmaceuticals in a mouth spray form for MS sufferers. It contains synthetic THC and CBD cannabinoids.
The Albany College of Pharmacy in New York was given a grant by the American Cancer Society to determine if cannabinoids can be absorbed through the skin via a patch, similar to the nicotine patch used by smokers.
The problem is that these uses for "medical marijuana" are already being taken care of by a dozen FDA approved drugs that have been on the market for years and do the job better.
And smoking marijuana is not approved by any major medical association. Smoked marijuana for "medical" reasons is simply the camel's nose under the tent for those who want to legalize recreational marijuana. It's a scam that uses the sick and dying as pawns. And in the states that have legalized medical marijuana, the system is rife with fraud and abuse.
For example, in California, a survey was done that showed that 99% of marijuana "patients" were already smoking marijuana before they visited a doctor to get their "recommendation".
You bet!
Whenever I'm feeling really nauseous, I mean just on the verge of puking my guts out, where my stomach is gurgling, I'm feeling light-headed, and you get that funny taste in your mouth .... THAT's when I feel like lighting up!
I agree with you 100%.
My mom before her passing suffered with cancer for years and we tried to save her life and there is no way pot would ease anything for pain or to prevent throwing up.
Other drugs are better and I think this IS all about drug addicts wanting to legalize their addiction.
Seems also that libertarians are the party of drug abusers which does NOT make them conservative by ANY stretch of the imagination.
If you'd take your own advice and "forget about the drugs" you might be able to comprehend the issues involved. Thinking about them seems to be interfering with your judgement.
And "liberals" like this guy:
"Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."
-- Thomas Jefferson
The drugs involved "are" the issue though.
It is the drugs that make it an addiction, a liberal lust.
Conservatives seek to better themselves, not illegally self medicate for recreational purposes.
Thanks Jonah. On my second look at the title I knew somebody must have.
They seem to be the issue to you, because you can't seem to think about it in any other terms. I don't agree. I'm sure you have a ready supply of perjoratives and insults for people of such termerity.
Right on, true conservatives recognize the Constitution as an impediment to proper control of society.
ashcroft is stalking fry? is she a babe?
Liberaltarians and the drug addicts who support this issue are trying to strip right and wrong from an issue to get their drugs and that is about it.
You can rephrase and make up any argument you want, but the bottom lone issue is it's an evil product used by irresponsible people and it ruins society.
No body is going to raise the American flag and site the Constitution with pride as you stick a needle of illegal drugs in your arm or any other suck illegal activities.
You can make the same argument about wanting to be a pedophile. You can say I am forcing my ethics and morality on you as I stop you fro violating some small boy's bottom.
Good, you should have laws restrict you there as well with illegal drugs because some people lack the common sense of a brick.
Good, you should have laws restrict you there as well with illegal drugs
Quite a leap; apparently you think a lot about small boy's bottoms being violated. But then, you are A CA Guy.
How is taking an illegal drug immoral so it comes under the state's jurisdiction rather than God's?
Since illegal drugs are so related to violent crimes in America, I would say it is nasty in every way.
California has more registered conservatives as Republicans than any other state.
Almost all of our violent offenders are or were illegal drug users.
There is nothing positive about the illegal drugs.
Stay away from illegal drugs and you'll live a better life.
An addiction is not a feather in your cap.
But we're talking about cannabis. What violent crimes are motivated by cannabis? And where in the book from which we draw our law and morals is using cannabis forbidden?
Go to any California prison and virtually all violent offenders are users of pot along with other drugs and even alcohol.
Pot leads to trouble, is liked to schizophrenia as well.
There is no blessing in being addicted or in need of your drug.
Freedom is NOT being a slave to a drug in the name of the Constitution.
Nothing conservative at all about illegal drugs. Leave them all with the criminals and try and lead a conservative lifestyle instead.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-- John Adams, 1798
You reckon any were needed?
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