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Baby boomers not all alike
Sun News/ Myrtlebeachonline ^ | 7/11/04 | Jeffrey Zaslow

Posted on 07/12/2004 9:38:33 AM PDT by qam1

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To: CyberCowboy777
That greenpeace, anti social "critic" that was slamming Skynyrd was really slamming Southern Culture.

Exactly. And aren't critics supposed to judge music on its artistic merits, and not the politics behind it? Using that critic's logic about politics being the most important, John Lennon's greatest album would be Somewhere in New York City, even though even John Lennon fans find the music on it hard to take.

Your right on Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and my Dad (the boomer) hates the Beatles entirely.

There's been a huge backlash about it being the greatest album of all time since Rolling Stone picked it as such in 1987. Most critics will now say that Revolver or Abbey Road or Rubber Soul is better. That book is not exactly going out on a limb in saying it's overrated.

141 posted on 07/12/2004 1:04:05 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: CyberCowboy777

Don't worry - the usual suspect boomer Freepers always end-up attacking us X-ers. When that doesn't work, then come the snide comments about running/crying to our mommies and daddies because we're so screwed up (or something to that effect). I guess we're not allowed to be critical of the (few/many) shortcomings of prior generations - only ourselves.

It's actually quite amusing. Just laugh it off.


142 posted on 07/12/2004 1:04:50 PM PDT by dave k
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To: Howlin
Did I call any one person greedy and/or socialists?

I did and will call much of the economic policies enacted by the gray panthers (and their parents) socialistic.

You don't agree?

143 posted on 07/12/2004 1:06:19 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: GVgirl
I don't know what YOU THINK my parents time was, but the divorce rate starting climbing with the early 60's and that was again..."The Greatest Generation."

Absolotely NOT true.

144 posted on 07/12/2004 1:08:04 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Howlin
I agree; for the life of me, I cannot understand why this "window" keeps widening.

One other thing -- it makes more sense to consider those born in the early 1940s as being the same generation as the boomers as those born in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Using the traditional standard of what defines a Baby Boomer, being born between 1946 and 1964, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Jane Fonda, Abbie Hoffman, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and John Kerry are *not* boomers! How does that make sense?

145 posted on 07/12/2004 1:08:14 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: qam1
The song reminds DeRogatis of two boomers born in 1946: Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. In his autobiography, "Clinton takes 957 pages to say he really didn't do anything wrong," DeRogatis says, while President Bush "still won't say he was wrong" about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction.

I'm reading along, mildly interested, then this. A political dig at Bush. Clinton takes 967 pages to say he didn't do anything wrong, and the implication is that he didn't. Bush still won't say he;'s wrong, and the implication is that he is wrong. Bush "still won't say he's wrong," because he isn't wrong, and so the whole credibility of the author goes down the toilet along with this Sunday morning newspaper human interest bathroom reading while taking a dump article. Pardon my visual imagery please.

146 posted on 07/12/2004 1:08:44 PM PDT by webheart
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To: dave k
I would have expected them (themselves burdened by previous generations) to be willing to academically view generations and find answers (or at least the progression).
147 posted on 07/12/2004 1:10:14 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Howlin

Now don't tell me that you're going to point the finger of blame at the GEN Xers for the escalation of divorce rates in the 60's? 'Cause I know you can't blame the boomers since they were too young.


148 posted on 07/12/2004 1:10:33 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: dave k
I guess we're not allowed to be critical of the (few/many) shortcomings of prior generations - only ourselves

Then blame those people .. aka the left .. Liberals

And not blame the whole generation

149 posted on 07/12/2004 1:14:03 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: GVgirl
I have no idea what you're talking about, but the statement

...but the divorce rate starting climbing with the early 60's and that was again..."The Greatest Generation."

is absolutely untrue. I have no idea where you go that figure.

150 posted on 07/12/2004 1:14:17 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Mo1
We (at least I) am not blaming the whole generation for anything. But without looking at the demographics, the cultures you cannot determine a course of action.

The majority of GenXers who voted for Clinton are not the same animal as the Baby Boomers who voted Carter and then Reagan. Two different approaches, two different effects on the society all understood by understanding the generation.
151 posted on 07/12/2004 1:18:09 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Howlin

Howlin! HTG! Where have you been? It's well-known the first half of the 60's is when divorce rates started climbing in this country. Think about who elected the Kennedys.


152 posted on 07/12/2004 1:18:54 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: xsmommy

I feel your pain, Herkimer.


153 posted on 07/12/2004 1:21:25 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Mo1
Here is a good example of a demographic study, the fact that GenXers Vote majority democrat does not mean ALL GenXers vote democrat - it just helps us understand what we are working with.

http://www.greenbergresearch.com/publications/reports/r_theclintongeneration_112396.pdf
154 posted on 07/12/2004 1:21:54 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: GVgirl

You better check your facts.

The divorce rate in the '60s was 9.2 percent, LOWER than it had been in the 50's.

The divorce rate didn't begin to skyrocket until 1975, peaked in 1979 at around 22.00, and has been relatively the same,if not lower, since then.


155 posted on 07/12/2004 1:23:08 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: CyberCowboy777
I am NOT lumping everyone in one pot

Hmmmmm ... are you sure ???

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1169790/posts?page=79#79

Bottom Line.

The boomers embraced what was a sub-culture before them. A culture of free love, do what feels good, institutionalized rebellion and violent protest.

All these things existed before the boomer's, and certainly their parents are to blame for much of the economic socialism we currently live with, but the social decline that happened in the '60's and '70's I place mostly at the feet of the boomer's.

One only needs look at the pinnacle of Boomer power, Bill Clinton, current voting trends and the institutions run by boomers in the '90's up to today.

156 posted on 07/12/2004 1:23:15 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: patton

nah...there's reason to hate YOU... ; ) just kidding.


157 posted on 07/12/2004 1:23:35 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Mo1
That is the generation, that does not mean ALL boomers embraced the culture. Just a large portion, as I have said (but you don't feel inclined to include in your quoting)
158 posted on 07/12/2004 1:25:50 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: CyberCowboy777
You did help pay for the '80's run up and Viet Nam and we thank you.

They did? Then where did the 7 trillion in debt come from?

159 posted on 07/12/2004 1:25:53 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (vote Democrat, it beats working for a living)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Who here is willing to accept responsibility for their generation?

I will. I voted for Perot. I'm sorry. Twice. I'm really sorry. I voted for Reagan twice, and Bush I once, and Bush II.

That having been said, let me say this: I'm not buying into that the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket nonsense. There is good and bad in everyone and every generation gave and took according to its times, which were all unique. We have longer life expectancies, better health, more entertainment options, freedom to move about at will, and creature comforts beyond the wildest dreams of the ultimate rich people of just 100 years ago. Sure we have problems in the world, but we deal with them. What would life be without problems? Boring.

160 posted on 07/12/2004 1:26:05 PM PDT by webheart
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