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Exposed: The Myth That Psychiatry Has Proven That Homosexual Behavior Is Normal
Traditional Values Coalition ^ | Traditional Values Coalition

Posted on 07/16/2004 8:54:50 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: BikerNYC

You forgot that practicing homosexuals men are also far more likely to have been raped/molested when they were a child by an adult homosexual man. I doubt that all Russians and Native Americans were more likely than other nationalities or races to have been raped/molested as a child by an adult homosexual man....


41 posted on 07/19/2004 6:18:33 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: RobbyS

Where did I start? Journal of the American Medical Association.


42 posted on 07/19/2004 6:20:55 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: joesnuffy

As well, it was noted that along the lines that homosexuality was declared to be "normal", that many other psychiatric disorders could also be "normalized."

The way that homosexuality was "normalized" by the APA was pretty much like this:

"We( the APA) declare you(homosexuals) to be normal.", "Therefore you are normal", without any science to back up/prove this assertion.

Nice try APA, but they(homosexuals) are still not normal!!!


43 posted on 07/19/2004 6:26:23 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: secretagent

Unfortunately that is what has happened with psychiatric science to a large degree...it has become so heavily politicized...hence the need for NARTH.


44 posted on 07/19/2004 6:28:55 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Blows out of the water that " internalized homophobia" is responsible for homosexuals higher mental problem rates.

Well, yes and no.

The charge that society, or individuals, are "homophobic" is in fact a projection of inner dread.

Naming that inner dread "internalized homophobia" is verbose and imprecise, but it's not entirely incorrect.

45 posted on 07/19/2004 6:32:26 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: TeknoBeck

Waht the media did not tell you is that the hypotahalmus of the brain changes with use. To plut it bluntly, professional basketball players will have enlarged areas of their brain, in comparison to non-professional basketball players/. Ths same goes true for Symphony orchestra conducters, etc...

Even Levay admitted to this, that ultimately his studies did not convincingly prove that the hypothalamus/corpus callosum differences in hetero and homo men were a result of biology. No study has ever proven that. The media distorted the findings to suit their political purposes.


46 posted on 07/19/2004 6:35:09 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: mabelkitty
Homosexuals sexually molested as children in very high percentages.
I don't think it's a coincidence.

I don't think it's a coincidence either, but then your left with the homosexuals like Mary Cheney - the Vice President's daughter. I seriously she was molested, and she still turned into a homosexuals. Everything I've read, says the Cheneys were a good Christian family and raised their kids right. Leaves you scratching your head, wondering if maybe the wiring did indeed go wrong somewhere.

It's a shame that as much as so many people in this nation want to talk about their childhoods and if they were molested, etc., on the talk shows, in the press, etc. and yet there is this stigma and political uncorrectness when you talk about molestation and homosexuality together.

47 posted on 07/19/2004 6:41:46 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Jim Noble

Actually, to start back at the beginning, there has been no scientifically validated studies proving that "internalized homopobia" even exists.

Just clearing things up, and to show that if the homosexual activists want to state that "internalized homophobia" does exist, contrary to science,, and if the media wants to advance this ridiculous, unproven notion, then they must also readily admit that the studies show that even in highly gay-affirming cultures the higher mental problem rates of homosexuals versus heterosexual don't disappear.


48 posted on 07/19/2004 6:42:16 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: af_vet_rr
Everything I've read, says the Cheneys were a good Christian family and raised their kids right

But, "everything you've read" actually doesn't tell you anything about what really happens,or doesn't, in someone else's family.

49 posted on 07/19/2004 7:14:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Jim Noble
Actually, a large study, posted on this site last year, concluded that the overwhelmingly consistent reaction to homosexuality was disgust, making the word "homophobia" inaccurate. "Phobia" is a fear of something.

50 posted on 07/19/2004 7:30:34 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: scripter; Coleus; streetpreacher; laotzu

I thought that you might like to peruse this article from TVC.


51 posted on 07/19/2004 8:10:42 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Most gays suffer from high self-esteem.


52 posted on 07/19/2004 8:34:38 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: TeknoBeck
In regards to homosexuality and genetics, the work of homosexual activist Dr. Simon LeVay has often been used to support the idea that homosexuality is genetic, and his work is still quoted to this day. But what did LeVay really find? Here is what LeVay said of his own work in a March 1994 interview with Discover magazine:
"[His 1991 research] made the unassuming LeVay one of the most misunderstood men in America. "It's important to stress what I didn't find," he points out with the courtly patience of someone who long ago got used to waiting for the rest of the world to catch up. "I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are 'born that way,' the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain --INAH3 is less likely to be the sole gay nucleus of the brain than part of a chain of nuclei engaged in men and women's sexual behavior. My work is just a hint in that direction--a spur, I hope, to future work."
Source: Interview with David Nimmons (March, 1994) "Sex and the Brain", Discover, Vol. 15, No. 3, p. 64-71.
53 posted on 07/19/2004 8:59:12 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Thanks for the ping. I'll update the database with this article.


54 posted on 07/19/2004 9:00:09 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: MacDorcha
Regarding LeVay, you may find post 53 of interest. Or click here for much more.
55 posted on 07/19/2004 9:04:26 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Thanks


56 posted on 07/19/2004 9:34:02 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: MacDorcha
From Homosexual Advocacy Groups Admit 10% Fallacy

For decades homosexual pressure groups have claimed that, since 10% of the population is homosexual, public officials should give credence to their political demands. Now it seems that when they absolutely have to tell the truth, activists admit the 10% figure is a myth. The startling admission was made by a coalition of 31 homosexual advocacy groups, including the Human Rights Campaign, National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, and the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. In their brief filed in a recent U.S. Supreme Court case, Lawrence v. Texas, which dealt with that state's sodomy statute, the coalition said that only "2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."

57 posted on 07/19/2004 11:27:53 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: secretagent

I don't know about your statement that all DSM Dx result from politics as being totally true, especially the Axis I's. If they ever declassifiy the various schizophrenias, we are in big trouble!!! Most of those people are seriously mentally ill!!!....AND DANGEROUS.


58 posted on 07/19/2004 11:38:50 AM PDT by tertiary01 ( VOTE-- Kerry/Edwards--- Put Foxes in charge of the henhouse (Just kidding!!but not about the foxes))
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To: af_vet_rr

Everything I've read, says the Cheneys were a good Christian family and raised their kids right. Leaves you scratching your head, wondering if maybe the wiring did indeed go wrong somewhere.

the term "molest" does not include "family" or even "close relative.


59 posted on 07/19/2004 12:20:38 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: tuesday afternoon

not disagreeing. just saying what i read. it appears yours has more reliable backing, so i will go with that.


60 posted on 07/19/2004 12:22:10 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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