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H. Charley now a CAT 2 Hurricane, could hit Tampa as a CAT 3 Fri PM
NWS / Hurricane City / Local Tampa-Miami stations ^ | 8.12.04

Posted on 08/12/2004 6:55:26 PM PDT by mhking

The National Weather Service has just issued a Tornado Watch for most of south Florida until at least 8:00 Friday morning.

Hurricane City is streaming live coverage at http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram -- their coverage includes reports from The Weather Channel, from observers on the ground, plus streamed reports from local Miami television stations.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: charley; ftmeyers; havana; hurricane; hurricanecharley; hurricanewarning; keywest; stormsurge; tampa; tornadowatch
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To: mhking

http://radio.nhcwx.com/streams.htm

More streaming tropical information here.


61 posted on 08/12/2004 7:25:54 PM PDT by weatherFrEaK (Who, me?)
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To: Bahbah
Thanks, but I don't think much will happen before mid morning, and we'll probably lose power if there's any wind at all. Our neighborhood is filled with trees, so I don't expect the power to stay on for long.

By the way, here's the evaculation map.

For now they've called for evacuating A,B, and C. That's the purple blue and green.

We're an orange down at the very southern tip of the peninsula.

62 posted on 08/12/2004 7:26:07 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: mhking
My niece and her husband retired this year and moved from Virginia to a little town near Tampa called Leesburg I believe. Her mother is on pins and needles here in Calif.
63 posted on 08/12/2004 7:26:26 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: gcruse
The most recent storm track has Ocala dead center. I liked earthquakes better.

Wow. It's got to be weird down there right now. How do you decide when it's safe to sleep?

64 posted on 08/12/2004 7:26:38 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Burn24

"Then again, there's Bonnie Prince Charlie."

It's actually Burns, right?


65 posted on 08/12/2004 7:26:45 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: ovrtaxt

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/webspecials02/andrew/1921video.shtml
(Click Link for Animation)

It's the worst-case scenario: a powerful storm on a northeast track heading straight for Tampa Bay.

What would happen?

That's the question emergency planners posed to the National Hurricane Center. The computer-generated image you're looking at is one answer.

It shows the potential flooding from a storm about the size of Hurricane Floyd, which ravaged the North Carolina coast in September 1999, killing 57 people. It was bigger, deadlier and almost as fierce as Hurricane Andrew, but not as costly.

It follows the same track as the unnamed hurricane that hit Tarpon Springs in 1921, the last time Tampa Bay took a direct hit from a hurricane.

Under this scenario, high winds create a storm surge causing massive flooding, particularly in Hillsborough County, where nearly the entire Interbay Peninsula would be underwater.

That may seem odd. Aren't the Pinellas beaches more vulnerable? The reason lies in the track of the storm, the counter-clockwise rotation of the winds, the shallowness of the Gulf of Mexico and the bay itself.

Hurricane experts call it the funnel effect.

The shallowness of the gulf makes Florida's west coast particularly vulnerable to hurricane-driven storm surge, said Brian Jarvinen, hurricane storm surge specialist with the National Hurricane Center in Miami.

In Atlantic storms, a lot of the energy produced by a hurricane is absorbed by the ocean. But in a gulf storm, the energy hits bottom, churning water toward the shoreline, Jarvinen said. That creates an even bigger problem if the storm is headed toward Tampa Bay.

"The added impact of the bay creates a funneling effect," Jarvinen said. The churning water surges into the bay, washing over the farthest point.

A computer model Jarvinen created shows flooding up to 17 feet above sea level in parts of Pinellas and Hillsborough.

"Certainly the impacts there are incredible, there's no doubt about it," said Jarvinen. "There's no doubt in our mind that someday we will see a storm like this and create that type of flooding. The question is when, but someday it will occur."


66 posted on 08/12/2004 7:27:07 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: MOgirl

That's what they claim, LOL!


67 posted on 08/12/2004 7:28:37 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: mhking
I'm watching this from VA Beach...

Hubby is watching this from NAS Pensacola...

I've got family in St Pete, Ocala, West Palm Beach, Miami, and Palm Coast...

This is gonna be an interesting weekend...

68 posted on 08/12/2004 7:28:48 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: mhking

My sis lives in Tampa and folks just north in New Port Richey! Appreciate all your prayers!!


69 posted on 08/12/2004 7:28:56 PM PDT by Kewz1 (Never forget.)
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To: mhking

Prayers for all in Florida. I remember reading a book named "Condominium" years ago which featured a bad storm, and it was frightening to think about, even in fiction.


70 posted on 08/12/2004 7:28:57 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: dawn53

Many thanks for the map, Dawn, it has set my mind at rest.


71 posted on 08/12/2004 7:29:33 PM PDT by Burn24
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To: mhking

72 posted on 08/12/2004 7:29:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: dawn53

I'm looking at that thing. Is orange 156 mph winds? That does not sound good. I must be interpreting that wrong.


73 posted on 08/12/2004 7:30:17 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: mhking
Frankly, I would be just as happy if some of the stations would lay off the storm programming for a bit! Most of them have abandoned their regular programming for non-stop storm coverage and it's getting old. There's nothing to talk about right now and they can only talk about Donna in 1960 so many times before it becomes boring, really boring. I am not understating the importance of being prepared for the approach of this potentially dangerous storm, but it's still 17 or 18 hours away and there's really not enough new stuff to fill non-stop programming. They end up just talking and talking and talking and not really saying much of anything. I'd be much happier with their regular programs and frequent updates as needed. I am a native, fifth-generation Floridian and certainly do not minimize the importance of taking these storms very seriously, but they seem to have gotten started a bit early in my opinion.
74 posted on 08/12/2004 7:30:54 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: Scenic Sounds

Tonight might be last good night for the next several days! :-)

The local stations have switched to all-weather and they're giving us some rough estimates on when to expect to start to see the winds pick up. That's a big deal here since all public safety operations cease after a certain threshold (45mph?) and the bridges will be shut down too. Personally, I can't imagine going over the Skyway if there's 30mph winds, much less 45mph!!!


75 posted on 08/12/2004 7:31:14 PM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: Bahbah

Och, aye.


76 posted on 08/12/2004 7:31:15 PM PDT by Burn24
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To: Bahbah

That's the windspeed estimate to cause surge high enough to flood that specific color.


77 posted on 08/12/2004 7:31:37 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx

I saw that once before. Thanks for posting it. Luckily, I'm in the exrtreme NW corner of Hillsborough. Lots of lakes, so drainage from rain may be a problem, and wind, but no tidal flooding.

Scary though!


78 posted on 08/12/2004 7:32:14 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (*www.fairtax.org* John Kerry, Assclown Messiah)
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To: dawn53

Wow! I saw footage on the ten o'clock news of thousands of cars crawling along the causeway out of the Keys. I hope there's enough time for everyone to get out safe.

This is going to be a bad one.

Prayers going up for all Floridian FReepers.


79 posted on 08/12/2004 7:32:35 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Burn24

Has anyone heard whether Havana (and Gitmo) are still standing?


80 posted on 08/12/2004 7:32:53 PM PDT by asgardshill (Jury Duty REJECT - Perfect 0 and 11 record stands.)
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